Uefa president hints at luxury tax and transfer changes to rein in rich clubs

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https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...esident-luxury-tax-transfer-system-rich-clubs
The Uefa president, Aleksander Ceferin, believes European football should consider more restraints on spending, squad limits and changes to the transfer system to stop rich clubs from dominating.

“The increasing gap between some of us can be accelerated by globalisation and technological change,” he said.

“We cannot allow the greatness of some to overshadow and drown out the rest. If we allow gaps to become too great we will be neglecting those who have little opportunities. We face a threat that the bottom becomes unstable because the rest of the world is focused on the top.”
Opinions? Is financial disparity increasing? If so, does this pose a problem for football? If so, what should be done against it?
 

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Honestly, that's bullshit in my opinion.
They shouldn't be allowed to tax rich (or any) clubs, they aren't a state, and a sport shouldn't have a taxing-governing body, that should be up to the individual countries to decide on. If Uefa wan't more equality, they should give more to lower-ending price-money instead of this shit.
 

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One way ticket to a Super league. The ECA will just tell him to get fecked.
 

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They could limit the number of new transfers into clubs and the number of players that a club can have out on loan and for how long.

Financial penalties/limits are likely to be dodged the same way financial fair play was.
 

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Where would the money go?
UEFA and the various other footballing associations, so they could make a few bucks out of the game, rather than resorting to taking bribes.

It'll all fail just like FFP crap they tried. If they try to introduce a tax, the new super league is where the big clubs will go and less money will end up being where they wish it to be. Big clubs won't stand for it.
 

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If they tried taxing rich clubs for no reason those clubs would, rightfully so, stand up to them and they'd back down from that idiotic idea as quickly as they came up with it.
 

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Honestly, that's bullshit in my opinion.
They shouldn't be allowed to tax rich (or any) clubs, they aren't a state, and a sport shouldn't have a taxing-governing body, that should be up to the individual countries to decide on. If Uefa wan't more equality, they should give more to lower-ending price-money instead of this shit.
Pretty much everything is governed by someone/something. Weird that you think only states are governed when, in reality, every literally meaningfully activity is.

I'm all for moves that attempt to bridge the gap between the haves and the have nots.

UEFA shit themselves at the thought of a super league, this will never happen.
Everyone should shit themselves thinking of that. It's a moronic concept.
 

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The UEFA has the same problem as the FIFA. There are too many "little" countries to please who have as many votes in it like the big nations.
 

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Pretty much everything is governed by someone/something. Weird that you think only states are governed when, in reality, every literally meaningfully activity is.

I'm all for moves that attempt to bridge the gap between the haves and the have nots.


Everyone should shit themselves thinking of that. It's a moronic concept.
Agreed, absolutely despise the idea.
 

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If they even start talking about introducing this it will cause an uproar. Just like FFP that they told all the clubs to spend a few years getting ready for and then introduced it and then abolished it for seemingly no reason.
 

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If they tried taxing rich clubs for no reason those clubs would, rightfully so, stand up to them and they'd back down from that idiotic idea as quickly as they came up with it.
I agree that UEFA is in a strategic position from which it would struggle to pull this off, but don't understand the "rightfully so". Aside from the reality of the big clubs' power to block this, can't see what's wrong with the idea.
 

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Pretty much everything is governed by someone/something. Weird that you think only states are governed when, in reality, every literally meaningfully activity is.

I'm all for moves that attempt to bridge the gap between the haves and the have nots.


Everyone should shit themselves thinking of that. It's a moronic concept.
It is, but I suppose it's a threat. As stupid as the concept is.

Some kind of redistribution of wealth of something would be the only way. Maybe a fund or something. Problem is, like it or not, clubs are big businesses and how could Uefa justify telling those businesses to cough up extra money for such a thing? It really is a tough one.
 

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I agree that UEFA is in a strategic position from which it would struggle to pull this off, but don't understand the "rightfully so". Aside from the reality of the big clubs' power to block this, can't see what's wrong with the idea.
That taxing clubs just because they are rich is wrong? The concept in itself is idiotic which encourages not becoming richer and richer but instead waiting for the, what would be, welfare cheques in football. And that's even without going into such details as how such money would later on be spent/who would be the most beneficiary from it, on what basis, etc.
 

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That taxing clubs just because they are rich is wrong? The concept in itself is idiotic which encourages not becoming richer and richer but instead waiting for the, what would be, welfare cheques in football
It it depends whether you think that sports are to some extent about teams competing on an even playing field, or if you get more enjoyment from tracking the fortunes of the playing arms of leading competitors in the global sports market. Each to their own.

And that's even without going into such details as how such money would later on be spent/who would be the most beneficiary from it, on what basis, etc.
Don't see how this bit is an objection - presumably these kinds of details could be agreed and specified in the policy.
 
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What did Lentini go for? What year? That's a serious question.
1992. When there was one team from each country in the Champions League and the gap between the richest clubs and the rest wasn't as cavernous as it is today.

The key point is that financial inequality is only getting worse every season and if you're not a member of one of the big 3 leagues, or owned by a mega-rich sugar daddy, you've got little hope of competing beyond your own borders. UEFA should have taken meaningful action years ago instead of pandering endlessly to the richest clubs. How that gets done is the tricky part, but just letting the market take its course is not a sustainable solution for the future of the professional game across the world.
 

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If they even start talking about introducing this it will cause an uproar. Just like FFP that they told all the clubs to spend a few years getting ready for and then introduced it and then abolished it for seemingly no reason.
They haven't abolished FFP.
 

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I'm a bit to young to fully remember that one, but yeah considering the likes of Cole coming to us for something like £7m a few years later was deemed a hell of a lot of money, Lentini was a ridiculous amount.
If I remember right it was over 10 million. That was obscene. Uefa didn't give a shit then.
Ronaldo for 80 million. Nothing said then either. In fact it was slavery for him to be kept here.

Now England has no peers as far as the money and this comes to being a possibility screams double standards.
 

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1992. When there was one team from each country in the Champions League and the gap between the richest clubs and the rest wasn't as cavernous as it is today.

The key point is that financial inequality is only getting worse every season and if you're not a member of one of the big 3 leagues, or owned by a mega-rich sugar daddy, you've got little hope of competing beyond your own borders. UEFA should have taken meaningful action years ago instead of pandering endlessly to the richest clubs. How that gets done is the tricky part, but just letting the market take its course is not a sustainable solution for the future of the professional game across the world.
My point is that financial inequality has been rampant through Europe for over twenty years. First with Italy. Then with Spain.
But England gets to the front and Uefa steps in.
 

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I would like to see a max wage cap and transfer fee cap etc., they already earn enough as it is, and it would give less incentives to 'move solely for money'. Some money might even go towards affordable ticket prices.
 

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I would like to see a max wage cap and transfer fee cap etc., they already earn enough as it is, and it would give less incentives to 'move solely for money'. Some money might even go towards affordable ticket prices.
They could have affordable ticket prices right now if they wanted to. Player's wages is not what is stopping them.
 

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If I remember right it was over 10 million. That was obscene. Uefa didn't give a shit then.
Ronaldo for 80 million. Nothing said then either. In fact it was slavery for him to be kept here.

Now England has no peers as far as the money and this comes to being a possibility screams double standards.
I don't know enough about the internal politics of UEFA to know if Italian or Spanish FA power was the obstacle in the past, but if so, so what? If it makes things fairer (which it seems like it would) and would be possible to implement (which maybe it wouldn't - hard to judge the will of clubs to actually break away from UEFA/FIFA in retaliation) you can't just keep refusing to take action now because you never took action in the past. Following that principle you would never change anything.