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Does that mean every time the game stops somebody is going be looking back to see if there should've been a free kick or corner etc recently just in case it eventually leads to a goal?
No, its just for major issues.
 

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Hopefully the next team Santos selects is the 1 who finished the match, CR cannot play as 9 on 4/3/3, also mind boggling BS cannot play instead Nani or Moutinho.

Tactical genius, if he goes with the same lineup for the next match I hope Russia beats us, sick and tired of this depressive lineups, by the way we need to renew the central defenders if we want to go to Russia next year, just a warning.

Gonna watch the Under 21's with more expectation than a team coached by the engineer, and congratulations to Mexico by the way, at least they have a coach who tries to play with the best players on the pitch.
 

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Why was Ronaldo Motm? Just because he was on the pitch?
 

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I seriously hope this was Nani's last game as a starter for us. The André Silva-Ronaldo partnership is scoring like a goal every 30 minutes during qualification and Santos breaks that up for Nani who's been injured most of the season? It's so stupid. We never learn, we always have to start tournaments without playing our best team and pay for it. We haven't won our first game in a tournament since 2008 with Scolari...
 

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No, its just for major issues.
That seems way too vague and if it's going to be implemented to be so subjective, it will create as many controversies as it solves. With the added bonus of slowing the game down and annoying the fans.
 

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That seems way too vague and if it's going to be implemented to be so subjective, it will create as many controversies as it solves. With the added bonus of slowing the game down and annoying the fans.
They have already published a list of issues which count as major (what currently justifies the use of VAR).
 

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No, its just for major issues.
I'm not sure I'm following you here. I'm asking when a goal goes in how far back do they go to check if a mistake was made before the goal was scored. For exampl let's say team a should've had a free kick two minutes before team b scores. Are we going to review it and disallow it?
 

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Why was Ronaldo Motm? Just because he was on the pitch?
He was good in the first half and didn't touch the ball in the second. By not touching the ball he actually did better than our other players so he definitely deserves it.
 

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I'm not sure I'm following you here. I'm asking when a goal goes in how far back do they go to check if a mistake was made before the goal was scored. For exampl let's say team a should've had a free kick two minutes before team b scores. Are we going to review it and disallow it?
No, because the free kick isn't a major issue.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39219168

Notice that all 3 of these incidents involve stoppages anyway.
 

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He was good in the first half and didn't touch the ball in the second. By not touching the ball he actually did better than our other players so he definitely deserves it.
Fair enough.
 

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Yes but the goal is. If the correct decision to give team a the free kick was made then the goal wouldn't have happened. How far back in the build up to a goal are we going to ensure there was no infringement?
It's only applied to direct causes of the goal. Like an offside, not a free kick that wasn't awarded 2 minutes ago to the opposing team.
 

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Hopefully the next team Santos selects is the 1 who finished the match, CR cannot play as 9 on 4/3/3, also mind boggling BS cannot play instead Nani or Moutinho.

Tactical genius, if he goes with the same lineup for the next match I hope Russia beats us, sick and tired of this depressive lineups, by the way we need to renew the central defenders if we want to go to Russia next year, just a warning.

Gonna watch the Under 21's with more expectation than a team coached by the engineer, and congratulations to Mexico by the way, at least they have a coach who tries to play with the best players on the pitch.
We need another defender Fontes was a disgrace and we really need a real manager/coach, playing defense with Mexico???? Anytime we attacked the chicaritos shitted all over, with a #9 we where more dangerous and gelson could cross.
 

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It's only applied to direct causes of the goal. Like an offside, not a free kick that wasn't awarded 2 minutes ago to the opposing team.
Says who? All I found was the procedure for the build up to a goal. It's very vague. Plus we also have the clusterfeck scenario of a referee being able to ask for an OFR and stopping play arbitrarily. It's a clusterfeck.
 

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Says who? All I found was the procedure for the build up to a goal. It's very vague. Plus we also have the clusterfeck scenario of a referee being able to ask for an OFR and stopping play arbitrarily. It's a clusterfeck.
It's very vague because this is only a trial. They will iron out the problems.
 

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No, because the free kick isn't a major issue.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39219168

Notice that all 3 of these incidents involve stoppages anyway.
Would I be correct in saying if instead of Portugal scoring someone was clipped down in the box, a penalty would have been given and the offside incident wouldn't have been checked by video review? Doesn't seem very fair then if so. Not to mention how much more controversial would it be if it was also a red card worthy challenge.
 

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It's very vague because this is only a trial. They will iron out the problems.
It being a trial doesn't mean it should be vague. If anything clarity at this stage is the most important factor.
 

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Would I be correct in saying if instead of Portugal scoring someone was clipped down in the box, a penalty would have been given and the offside incident wouldn't have been checked by video review? Doesn't seem very fair then if so. Not to mention how much more controversial would it be if it was also a red card worthy challenge.
Not sure, but like I say, its a trial. So unusual events will be helpful in order to improve this.
 

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We need another defender Fontes was a disgrace and we really need a real manager/coach, playing defense with Mexico???? Anytime we attacked the chicaritos shitted all over, with a #9 we where more dangerous and gelson could cross.
The problem we have for the future is that we only have Luis Neto from Zenit or maybe Ruben Semedo who can play at this level, this is a real problem we have.

Regarding Santos, I will not change my opinion about him, I don't like the way the team plays, also why on earth we play with Andre Silva during all qualification and today a game we need to win he goes to the bench, Gelson maybe will be better coming from the bench, but even Bernardo or Pizzi have done a great season and he never plays them.

I repeat, instead of Santos if we were coached by Mexico coach we would win this match, not easily because Mexico has a good team, but surelly he would play the best players on the pitch.

He is repeating the same shit he has done in the group stage at the Euros, ffs Moutinho again, losing the midfield battle against the mighty Herrera, if he repeats the same lineup I will support Putin :lol::lol::lol:
 

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Maybe it was mentioned already but why are sky sports pretending this tournament isn't happening? It's not even in their fixtures/results section
 

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congratulations to Mexico by the way, at least they have a coach who tries to play with the best players on the pitch.
You sure of that? Osorio is weird man. He's obsessed with having players with height, hence why he's playing a CB as right back and Jimenez (ST) is playing as a wing forward instead of "Chucky" Lozano.
 

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You sure of that? Osorio is weird man. He's obsessed with having players with height, hence why he's playing a CB as right back and Jimenez (ST) is playing as a wing forward instead of "Chucky" Lozano.
Yes I would like to ask that, was Mexico playing with Jimenez as a winger, instead playing alongside Chicharito?

I say this because Jimenez finished well the season for Benfica, I personally like him more than Mitroglou.

Another player I like is Layun, hopefully with Conceição as coach at Porto he will return to his level, anyway didn't know Osorio also has that strange lineups like Santos, hopefully he will not go to the press conferences talking about faith and that stuff, Santos is waiting for divinal inspiration with these lineups.

Maybe that is why Santos speaks so well about Osorio, maybe they have something in common. :lol:
 

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Chile will win this with more or less difficulties, even if I think when they played under Sampaoli they were better.
 

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Yes I would like to ask that, was Mexico playing with Jimenez as a winger, instead playing alongside Chicharito?

I say this because Jimenez finished well the season for Benfica, I personally like him more than Mitroglou.

Another player I like is Layun, hopefully with Conceição as coach at Porto he will return to his level, anyway didn't know Osorio also has that strange lineups like Santos, hopefully he will not go to the press conferences talking about faith and that stuff, Santos is waiting for divinal inspiration with these lineups.

Maybe that is why Santos speaks so well about Osorio, maybe they have something in common. :lol:
I think it was Chicharito as left wing forward for most of the match, with Jimenez playing as 9 and Vela as right wing forward, but they interchanged through the match. I think this is a waste because Mexico has a bunch of pacey wingers (Lozano, Aquino, Damm as well as Corona who's not on the team), it's not like they are lacking in that position.
As I said I believe they both played because Osorio is obsessed with having people who can head the ball on the pitch.