Kyle Walker: Spurs lacked the edge to win trophies

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Yeah but big clubs aren't usually in the business of selling their stars, which you might have to if you continue bottling it.
Spurs aren't these days in the business of selling their stars - and haven't done so to a Prem rival for the last 9 years.
 

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Oh is it Mr. Obvious, that how every transfer works.

He wanted to win trophies while making bigger wages, easy decision.
No, it isn't. Sometimes the selling club is very reluctant to sell. Did United want to sell Ronaldo for the money involved or would they have preferred that he stayed?
 

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Spurs aren't these days in the business of selling their stars - and haven't done so to a Prem rival for the last 9 years.
Doesn't have to be a Premier League club. I'm sure the top clubs in Europe would want Kane and Ali on their books.

No, it isn't. Sometimes the selling club is very reluctant to sell. Did United want to sell Ronaldo for the money involved or would they have preferred that he stayed?
Had he not wanted to leave, they'd have likely rejected it. Just like Spurs wouldn't have sold Walker had Walker not wanted out.
 

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No, it isn't. Sometimes the selling club is very reluctant to sell. Did United want to sell Ronaldo for the money involved or would they have preferred that he stayed?
Every transfer works like that. Player is sold when selling club agrees to sell, happily or reluctantly.
 

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A team like Tottenham will never be able to prolong their success. They will have temporary ups, but in the long run the club will only be an alternative club for hipsters. Same goes for Manchester City once their owners get bored. Can't build a club on the wallet of one man. As for spurs they can't compete with the very finest because they're just not that sort of club. The biggest players DON'T WANT to play for them. There are NO kids going to bed with a spurs posters hanging on the wall, unless they are somewhat local lads.

Nothing wrong with being a small club - just keep it real.
 

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Every transfer works like that. Player is sold when selling club agrees to sell, happily or reluctantly.
:lol: You don't say. I'm sure we never knew that.

However, you've changed your tune. Originally, when I said "Spurs were OK with letting him go for £50m", you replied "that's how every transfer works"

But now, when I've pointed out that sometimes clubs are not OK with selling a player, but are instead very reluctant sellers, you come out with the above "happily or reluctantly"
 

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I have come to the conclusion that Spurs fans literally don't understand how transfers work.
I've come to the conclusion that you refuse to accept that a player linked in the media might actually be happy to stay where he is and just because the mighty Utd show an interest doesn't mean another club should just bend over and give them anything. Times have changed, all clubs in the premiership have cash now.
 

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We might not do much with it tbh. Poch believes in his players and will be bringing some of our youth players into the squad. Although I'd love a big signing I have trust in our manager.
Well you guys do often pick up gems like Alli, Kane, even Son to an extent. If you're current squad can stick together to have 1-2 more gems come through you'd become a crazy good team, but that's unrealistic.
 

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A team like Tottenham will never be able to prolong their success. They will have temporary ups, but in the long run the club will only be an alternative club for hipsters. Same goes for Manchester City once their owners get bored. Can't build a club on the wallet of one man. As for spurs they can't compete with the very finest because they're just not that sort of club. The biggest players DON'T WANT to play for them. There are NO kids going to bed with a spurs posters hanging on the wall, unless they are somewhat local lads.

Nothing wrong with being a small club - just keep it real.
What about Chelski?
 

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I have come to the conclusion that Spurs fans literally don't understand how transfers work.
Is that "don't understand" or literally "don't understand"? If the latter then I don't understand what a literal understanding of transfers would look like ....
 

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Gotta love Glaston's positive spin on everything about Spurs. Even though he's just a fan like anyone else, he knows that Walker's decision was more about wages than trophies and he knows that Spurs would rather the 50mil they got than Walker still in their team and were thus happy sellers. The dedication towards Levy is hilarious to see.
 

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I've come to the conclusion that you refuse to accept that a player linked in the media might actually be happy to stay where he is and just because the mighty Utd show an interest doesn't mean another club should just bend over and give them anything. Times have changed, all clubs in the premiership have cash now.
Actually, my issue was with you thinking that Dier will remain at Spurs no matter what, disregarding the fact that if United pay what Spurs want then he'll leave because he knows who the better club is.
 

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Actually, my issue was with you thinking that Dier will remain at Spurs no matter what, disregarding the fact that if United pay what Spurs want then he'll leave because he knows who the better club is.
You ignored the fact the club have clearly said he is not for sale at any price. We don't want to sell him and the player is not pushing for a move. We hold the power in that situation not Utd.
 

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Well you guys do often pick up gems like Alli, Kane, even Son to an extent. If you're current squad can stick together to have 1-2 more gems come through you'd become a crazy good team, but that's unrealistic.
Why? The current squad is largely sticking together and IMO we have 1 or 2 more gems that are already starting to come through. I'm thinking of Harry Winks for example, and a little further down the line Marcus Edwards.
 

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Gotta love Glaston's positive spin on everything about Spurs. Even though he's just a fan like anyone else, he knows that Walker's decision was more about wages than trophies and he knows that Spurs would rather the 50mil they got than Walker still in their team and were thus happy sellers. The dedication towards Levy is hilarious to see.
He's the Spurs version of "topred"

United is the biggest club in the land, but even we as United fans dont show the same level of delusion about our own club.
 

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What about Chelski?
They're also in a crappy situation. Abramovic is not even that rich anymore with the oil prices going down and with more competition from Asians and Arabs + he won't live forever.

Chelsea are a tinny bit bigger team than Tottenham if you look at it closely. They were always going to compete about some trophies from year to year. It's so sad the way things have gone now with the money, the clubs never had the chance to honestly stand on their own legs. I really would have like to know the real development of the football world instead of this plastic crap.
 

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Is that "don't understand" or literally "don't understand"? If the latter then I don't understand what a literal understanding of transfers would look like ....
It would mean actually understanding how a transfer works. Don't try and act smart, it's way above your station, boy.
 

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A team like Tottenham will never be able to prolong their success. They will have temporary ups, but in the long run the club will only be an alternative club for hipsters. Same goes for Manchester City once their owners get bored. Can't build a club on the wallet of one man. As for spurs they can't compete with the very finest because they're just not that sort of club. The biggest players DON'T WANT to play for them. There are NO kids going to bed with a spurs posters hanging on the wall, unless they are somewhat local lads.

Nothing wrong with being a small club - just keep it real.
And there, in a nutshell, is why United have lost their way in recent years. The unbalanced focus on "big names" has done for you.
 

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You ignored the fact the club have clearly said he is not for sale at any price. We don't want to sell him and the player is not pushing for a move. We hold the power in that situation not Utd.
If United offer a high enough price it will be accepted and Dier would jump in a heartbeat to sign on the dotted line. Players are always said to not be for sale, they still get sold.
 

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They're also in a crappy situation. Abramovic is not even that rich anymore with the oil prices going down and with more competition from Asians and Arabs + he won't live forever.

Chelsea are a tinny bit bigger team than Tottenham if you look at it closely. They were always going to compete about some trophies from year to year. It's so sad the way things have gone now with the money, the clubs never had the chance to honestly stand on their own legs. I really would have like to know the real development of the football world instead of this plastic crap.
He'll probably sell it to the Chinese then. Also heard Zuckerberg was interested in Spurs. The "plastic crap" is here to stay...
 

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He's the Spurs version of "topred"

United is the biggest club in the land, but even we as United fans dont show the same level of delusion about our own club.
He's the spurs version of if rawk and bluemoon had a love-child together and left him in a cardboard box outside a strip club.
 

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One day, one of these guys will come out and say, "I moved for the money."
 

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If United offer a high enough price it will be accepted and Dier would jump in a heartbeat to sign on the dotted line. Players are always said to not be for sale, they still get sold.
Maybe yes, but it would mean utd paying way over the odds for him. Who does that benefit?
 

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These comments will come back to haunt him when Spurs lift a pot before City do.

I actually fancy Spurs to win something this year (Just not the PL).
 

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:lol: You don't say. I'm sure we never knew that.

However, you've changed your tune. Originally, when I said "Spurs were OK with letting him go for £50m", you replied "that's how every transfer works"

But now, when I've pointed out that sometimes clubs are not OK with selling a player, but are instead very reluctant sellers, you come out with the above "happily or reluctantly"
You really have problems. You made very obvious point "And he also left because Spurs were OK with letting him go for £50m."

I said that's how every transfer works, when the selling club is happy with the selling price. Whether they lose the player happily or reluctantly is for up for discussion.
 

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It would mean actually understanding how a transfer works. Don't try and act smart, it's way above your station, boy.
Is that "way above my station", or "literally way above my station"? Because I'd like to know whether I'm levitating or not.
 

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Sometimes clubs just accept the bid without the player wanting to move and the said player will just move anyway for the better wages etc. Spurs obviously have a ready-made replacement in Trippier so it would've been crazy for them to turn down 50 million and once the bid for him was accepted, walker would've been absolutely crazy to stay.
 

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And there, in a nutshell, is why United have lost their way in recent years. The unbalanced focus on "big names" has done for you.
Yes, United have lost their way because of Successful from Caf's views on football. fecking hell :lol: