If we cannot challenge for the title with this squad, then maybe the Glazer's should sack everyone from Woody and downward immediately. We have the arguably the best squad in the entire league and supposedly the best manager in the world. Other teams might have a better individual player, or a better attack or defense, but United have overall better squad than anyone.
Mourinho's press conference | 2pm BST
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) was joined by comedian Ali Woods to look back at the best and worst moments of a rollercoaster season with the annual United Hour Awards.
Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
They've spent all they have and yet still are relying on Stones and a sicknote in front of a still rather suspect looking keeper. With only Fernandinho to cover the back four.
We definitely don't IMO.
If they could pair that attack with a functional defense it should scare anyone.
But their CB's are still a bit shit so long as Kompany remains a crock.
I think Stones was massively overrated before City bought him, but now it seem to have gone the other way around for many. He is a good player although not the elite level. Lindelöf (when in form), Jones and Smalling is roughly as good as him in my view. So I don't really think we have much better defense than them even if we have very good depth in our central defense.
I think Mourinho's the best person for us to to lead us back to the top, and if he gets us there I think he's got a good chance of outperforming Sir Alex in Europe. I'm generally quite excited to see what he can do. Throwing Everton into the mix is blatantly lowering our standards and misleading our supporters though, and the only reasoning behind it that I can see is he's covering his own back. I don't see why pointing that out equates to me disliking him and somehow deligitimises my point about him being less than optimistic.
I reckon City are pretty strong favourites but you can never overlook their genuinely remarkable ability to capitulate from a position of strength. Their start last season was probably the best in English league history and they faltered embarassingly. If the same happens again, and Guardiola continues to act like a petty child, we're in with a good chance. I think we'll need Mourinho to be more bullish than he is though. He's making a lot of things sound like a chore these days.Well he sounded optimistic on this particular occasion but yes good point. How do you fancy our chances ?
For me it really depends on Mkhitaryan, Martial and Rashford stepping up their games. I was a bit worried about Rashford last year but even simple things like adding set pieces to his game gives you a lot of confidence. Martial and Mkhitaryan don't seem to have the mental strength that Mourinho needs to fully support them, so I'm worried there. If they can perform like we know they can for the majority of the season then there's lots to be excited about. Although hopefully Lindelof stops giving goals away.
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How have admin allowed you on here you nothing but a wum looking for a reaction in EVERY thread. Go vent somewhere else.
Wow, you really are hurt after our last conversation, something which you chose to enter with your direct comment to me. Please let me know which other team has the best overall squad in the league. If the Admins feel that I have done something wrong, I'm sure they will address it. I lay it down as it is and not hide behind rose tinted glasses.
Who do you think has the best overall squad in the league? I don't just mean the first 11 or a specific area of the team, I mean the entire squad including backups.
Agree, our last 2 managers have been strategists and denfensive. I'm not a fan, I want a offensive manager who will put out a consistent squad that will gel together. How many times did LVG and Mourhino put out the same squad week on week? Not often, compare that to Chelsea and Spurs last season.
How can we have the best team when we are toothless in attack. We have no good natural wingers, no fullbacks that provide any offensive threat. We only have a decent striker. How is that the best squad in the league. Yes we have the best GK, good CB's and a good midfield and alot of depth with our backups but that doesnt win games, goals win games and we struggle scoring them.
Chelsea imo have the best balanced squad, Spurs have a very good balanced squad and imo City have the best squad in the league alltough their cb and midfield options are thin but offensively they have the best players in the competion. I also don't agree we the best manager in the league as Conte, Pep, Poch and Klopp are also very very good trainers.
Yeah no excuses this year if we don't perform. It's not the players it's the coaching.
I don't think I've read so many contradictory opinions in one post in a long time
Was there only 2 questions in the presser?
Or did i somehow miss the tweets in this thread?
Or did i somehow miss the tweets in this thread?
What contradictions ?
I have said in my original post that some teams might have better individual players, or may be stronger in a certain area, but I am talking about the overall squad. Who are the backups for the Chelsea, and Spurs squads? How is Man City's defense with their new keeper, how about their backups for midfield?
We have full backs who can provide attacking threats. We have wide players who can provide attacking threats, they don't have to be a specialist winger in order to do that. They just have to have some restrictions removed which would allow them to play at their best. We are not toothless in attack if the team is set up properly, we have the firepower. It's up to the manager to set up a system to get the best out of them.
No we don't if we had we wouldn't have struggled like we did last year to score goals.
Same manager, same players, same shit
On current form, Anthony Valencia is one of the top 10 most dangerous attacking full backs in world football. In the premier league, I would rank him as one of the top three. In fact, in many of our games last season, I thought he was the only one providing serious threats to our opponents with his tireless runs down the right flank. If we get someone like him on the left, we will be a lot more deadly.
Disagree because it is realistic.
There's no reason why footballers shouldn't be at their best. Or very rarely there is. They have everything they can possibly need to perform.
It's a modern day thing to accept a player just randomly underfperforming for six months. It didn't used to happen. Yeah everybody has a bad game now and again but players used to perform in line with their ability.
We definitely do not have the best squad in the league.
We have a strong spine but the wide positions are a major problem and if anything happens to Lukaku it could be a long and painful season!
We have a strong spine but the wide positions are a major problem and if anything happens to Lukaku it could be a long and painful season!
I thought this was what he said, "We can win the title, we are ready. There will be 7 teams in the title race, and 20 ready to fight in every single match.The Premier League remains the toughest league, where every team battles, but we want to give the most in all 4 competitions we are engaged in."
That sounds very okay to me.
Mourinho's detractors will find faults with everything.
I'm not so sure about this strong spine of ours .The wide positions invariably spend a lot of their time and energy reinforcing our 'strong ' spine. You would think the opposite would be true, a strong spine surely should be able to hold its own , therefore allowing creative players more freedom to attack .
Maybe Matic will help this, but until he does , I don't think sitting deep and having 10 players behind the ball when the opponent attacks is evidence of a strong spine.
De Gea, Bailly, Matic, Lukaku.
Looks pretty strong from where I'm standing.
The new additions may help, but the proof is in the pudding , a strong spine allows you to attack without fear.
I'd agree with you, it looks strong, but to actually be strong, it has to hold its own against the good teams.
I'm not getting ahead of myself , until I see some evidence that it can.... being good on paper is for love island.
By that definition, Mourinho never had a strong spine in his career. Real Madrid were playing at times with 10 men behind the ball against certain opponents and their spine included Ramos, Alonso, Modric and Varane.
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Well, I can't and don't want to change your mind about that, but for me, we have the best overall squad in the league. If we do not compete for the league title this season (not saying we must win it, but be competing for it till the end), then heads need to roll.
It is an eye opener when you see we have lost Depay, Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger, Ibra from our squad and Shaw, Young and Rojo through injury too and we only got 3 players in. Even though the players we sold were flops that doesn't mean they didn't need replacing. We are clearly 2 players short at least, top quality players too.
*Forgot completely about Rooney.
Glazers must be rubbing their hands with how much dosh they're saving.
*Forgot completely about Rooney.
Glazers must be rubbing their hands with how much dosh they're saving.
Those who think we will not compete for the title this season, completely underestimate Jose Mourinho. I will advice anyone not to bet against him winning the title for United this season, talk less of not competing for the title.
You don't need evidence from the worlds best goalkeeper surely?
Bailly showed me enough last year to prove his worth.
Matic has been our standout performer over the last two matches, and Lukaku scores goals for fun.
Ha ha ha
Chelsea with best balanced squad.... Right... Let's see how they do with no Costa!
Madrid and their players all look much better playing good football post Jose.
You will never get the best out of top players when it's obvious you don't trust them to play the football they are capable of.
Anyways, the important thing is that we get off to a good start & beat west ham.
I get what you're saying, but my hope is that the impact of Matic goes far beyond simply adding a defensive midfielder. I hope that Matic being there will mean that Pogba and Herrera are able to contribute more effectively to our attack, and consequently that there is more support for Lukaku and our other forwards. If that goes to plan then the impact could be massive.
Good to see that the knives are out already!
I think some people just need a break from football forums, mate
Blimey. Has this place always been so negative? I struggle to find an optimistic comment, regardless of thread and when you do it's far in between the absolute shower of shite some posters are coming up with. We are a much better team than we were at this point last year and have a world class proven manager. So far, the positives outweigh the negatives and we should back our manager and team fully until they actually give us a real reason to start worrying. Losing 2-1 to the best team in the world, the team that absolutely trod all over a quality Juventus side; is not a reason for negativity.
Have people forgotten just how bad we were under LVG (2nd season) and under moyes? There were many games when we could not get a shot on target against bottom half PL teams. And yet people want to complain when the greatest Real Madrid side in the modern era, and possibly all time; deservedly beat us, by a fine margin at that. Yeah they could have scored more, but we missed two open goals.
I, for one, am very optimistic for the coming season, regardless of any more signings and am completely behind the manager and team. Bring on tommorow
Have people forgotten just how bad we were under LVG (2nd season) and under moyes? There were many games when we could not get a shot on target against bottom half PL teams. And yet people want to complain when the greatest Real Madrid side in the modern era, and possibly all time; deservedly beat us, by a fine margin at that. Yeah they could have scored more, but we missed two open goals.
I, for one, am very optimistic for the coming season, regardless of any more signings and am completely behind the manager and team. Bring on tommorow
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