Adrian Silva: arrives at Leicester 14 seconds too late

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But then deadlines are really meaningless...
Because someone was late by 14 seconds, its such a travesty if they let it pass that we may as well abolish all the rules in the world?
 

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Rules are rules. You can't break them and expect the authorities to be okay with that
Exactly, its like when I'm driving the last bus of the night, I always make sure I close the doors at exactly the right time. I don't care if I see you running for the bus and its the last one of the day, you should have been on time for the bus.
 

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As I said, common sense. If they left it so late on purpose in order to knock down the price, fair enough but send the player back to his parent club. In this case they were late because the team that bought the previous player were very late with the bid and they had to act in the last seconds of transfer window. And it was still by just a few seconds. You are not setting any precedent at all, you are just applying logic and what other clubs will know is not that you can be the evil ones and break the rules but that there is at least an ounce of sense in the governing bodies.

What you have instead is a talented young player unable to play competitive football for half a season.
 

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As I said, common sense. If they left it so late on purpose in order to knock down the price, fair enough but send the player back to his parent club. In this case they were late because the team that bought the previous player were very late with the bid and they had to act in the last seconds of transfer window. And it was still by just a few seconds. You are not setting any precedent at all, you are just applying logic and what other clubs will know is not that you can be the evil ones and break the rules but that there is at least an ounce of sense in the governing bodies.

What you have instead is a talented young player unable to play competitive football for half a season.
He's 28
 

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I mean Leicester were well over the time allowance.

Conor McGregor won the featherweight title in less time !!
 

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Because someone was late by 14 seconds, its such a travesty if they let it pass that we may as well abolish all the rules in the world?
Unfortunately, it's like for everything. School adminission, RFP response, whatever, a deadline is a deadline.
Making rules a bit more stringent would force parties to make deals faster during the transfer window.
 

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I really don't understand this. Either a transfer has happened or it hasn't. If it's happened then he should play for Leicester and if it hasn't he should be playing for Sporting. How the feck does this end up in a situation where the transfer has happened and yet the player cant play?
 

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A solution would be to authorise a loan to a club abroad. Player gets to play football and Leicester don't get their player for 6 months.
 

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Just have Leicester pay a big fine, give the money to charity or youth football and push it through. Leicester pay a price for fecking up so you don't create too dangerous a precedent and the player isn't hurt.
 

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As I said, common sense. If they left it so late on purpose in order to knock down the price, fair enough but send the player back to his parent club. In this case they were late because the team that bought the previous player were very late with the bid and they had to act in the last seconds of transfer window. And it was still by just a few seconds. You are not setting any precedent at all, you are just applying logic and what other clubs will know is not that you can be the evil ones and break the rules but that there is at least an ounce of sense in the governing bodies.

What you have instead is a talented young player unable to play competitive football for half a season.
Could have refused to sell drinkwater
 

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I really don't understand this. Either a transfer has happened or it hasn't. If it's happened then he should play for Leicester and if it hasn't he should be playing for Sporting. How the feck does this end up in a situation where the transfer has happened and yet the player cant play?
Agreed.
 

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Don't know why anybody would think this is even remotely unfair. I will never understand deadline day, especially when clubs had from 1 Jul to do their business. Got no sympathy for them whatsover. Hopefully be a lesson for other clubs in future.
 

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A solution would be to authorise a loan to a club abroad. Player gets to play football and Leicester don't get their player for 6 months.
But then someone else would be allowed to sign a player several days after transfer window closed.

I think the only solution here is to order an execution of Adrien Silva for this horrible crime.
 

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Just have Leicester pay a big fine, give the money to charity or youth football and push it through. Leicester pay a price for fecking up so you don't create too dangerous a precedent and the player isn't hurt.
This.
 
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No, as opposed to using logical thinking.
I'm guessing FIFA think they have done?

Before windows, the Euro Comm wanted contracts to be like other jobs... you could give notice and/or pay a bit of compensation then leave. So, Pogba could say something like "I fancy Madrid, here's 60 days notice and £5m comp" .... want that?

No one in football wanted that so we have windows, windows that have to be defined.... to the second.

Pedantic? .... Yes. Tight on the player? ..... Yes.
 

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Exactly, its like when I'm driving the last bus of the night, I always make sure I close the doors at exactly the right time. I don't care if I see you running for the bus and its the last one of the day, you should have been on time for the bus.
Naturally! If you remove the human component and add in automatic robotic doors with sensors then the bus doors will be closed. It doesn't matter if you were centimetres or hundreds of kilometres away

Yes! Never use brain or common sense, just apply the rules EXACTLY as they are and let them suffer. People who are late should IMO be killed and there is no difference what they are late for and by how much.
Whoa easy there champ! It's not a life or death situation. It's a fecking sport. In any case, look at it this way. The rules have been set to facilitate a process. Not to punish people. It's people who disappoint themselves.

What's absurd here is A.Silva is in a purgatory of sorts. It's neither his fault, nor Fifa's or whoever is the legislative body here. Sporting's side have already confirmed that the transfer is over with. So it's Leicester's responsibility that they couldn't get the paperwork done within time.
 

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Naturally! If you remove the human component and add in automatic robotic doors with sensors then the bus doors will be closed. It doesn't matter if you were centimetres or hundreds of kilometres away


Whoa easy there champ! It's not a life or death situation. It's a fecking sport. In any case, look at it this way. The rules have been set to facilitate a process. Not to punish people. It's people who disappoint themselves.

What's absurd here is A.Silva is in a purgatory of sorts. It's neither his fault, nor Fifa's or whoever is the legislative body here. Sporting's side have already confirmed that the transfer is over with. So it's Leicester's responsibility that they couldn't get the paperwork done within time.
Again, humans are not brainless idiots or machines and should be able to apply sense. If they fail to do that it's a big worry. I am very much against turning football into bureaucratic swamp at the expense of actual people who play it but I guess each to their own.
 

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It's like CL away goal rule, every one knows the rule, but if your team goes out due to away goal you moan about it.
 

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It's like CL away goal rule, every one knows the rule, but if your team goes out due to away goal you moan about it.
More like you play a CL semifinal and batter opposition but lose 2-1 away from home and then keep battering them at home and eventually score a stoppage time winner but then it turns out it was 0.1mm offside because your striker has long hair so the RedCafe rangers come and shout RULES ARE RULES!!!!!!!!! IT DOESNT MATTER IF ITS TEN METERS OR 1 TENTH OF A MILIMETER!!!! so you get knocked out.
 

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I really don't understand this. Either a transfer has happened or it hasn't. If it's happened then he should play for Leicester and if it hasn't he should be playing for Sporting. How the feck does this end up in a situation where the transfer has happened and yet the player cant play?
Think the player registration to make him eligible to play for the club and the transfer process are 2 independent things.
 

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Just have Leicester pay a big fine, give the money to charity or youth football and push it through. Leicester pay a price for fecking up so you don't create too dangerous a precedent and the player isn't hurt.
It seems a good idea. But what would you say is an apt fine in this case? The fine should be big enough to be a deterrent but it can't be ridiculously high either. So IMO it should not be a fixed amount but a percent of the transfer fee say 20%.
 

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It's Leicester's fault, period.

Left it to the last day to sign a player, left it to the last moment to send the paperwork and didn't plan for a possible Drinkwater exit

A deadline is a deadline. Missing it is all on Leicester.
 

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It seems a good idea. But what would you say is an apt fine in this case? The fine should be big enough to be a deterrent but it can't be ridiculously high either. So IMO it should not be a fixed amount but a percent of the transfer fee say 20%.
Even a £40m fine wouldn't have deterred the likes of PSG from making the Neymar transfer happen, so you can end up giving the big spending clubs another advantage.
 

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Exactly, its like when I'm driving the last bus of the night, I always make sure I close the doors at exactly the right time. I don't care if I see you running for the bus and its the last one of the day, you should have been on time for the bus.
I've flipped the bird to plenty of youse self-entitled bastids through the years. Happy I haven't lived in Europe since 2010.
 
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More like you play a CL semifinal and batter opposition but lose 2-1 away from home and then keep battering them at home and eventually score a stoppage time winner but then it turns out it was 0.1mm offside because your striker has long hair so the RedCafe rangers come and shout RULES ARE RULES!!!!!!!!! IT DOESNT MATTER IF ITS TEN METERS OR 1 TENTH OF A MILIMETER!!!! so you get knocked out.
I don't think you can be offside with your hair:confused:
 

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I really don't understand this. Either a transfer has happened or it hasn't. If it's happened then he should play for Leicester and if it hasn't he should be playing for Sporting. How the feck does this end up in a situation where the transfer has happened and yet the player cant play?
Yes this is ridiculous. They tried to get the transfer done, it didn't quite happen, surely he's still a Sporting player?
 

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I don't think you can be offside with your hair:confused:
Hair can touch the ball so perhaps you can. How do you decide where Fellaini's head ends and hair starts otherwise?
 

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Exactly, its like when I'm driving the last bus of the night, I always make sure I close the doors at exactly the right time. I don't care if I see you running for the bus and its the last one of the day, you should have been on time for the bus.

Imagine this: You were going to be on time for the bus with few minutes to spare. You tripped and injured your ankle, which sums up your day nicely having just earlier being made redundant from your job and also found out your partner was cheating on you when you called her to tell her the news. Dragging your sorry body to the bus stop hoping the day would end, you missed the bus by a mere 14 seconds and you saw the bus driver looking at you and drove off. It was dark. Suddenly there was a sharp pain coming from the back. You realised you have been stabbed and saw someone running off with your possession. Lights starting to fade out on you. And you asked yourself why oh why did the driver not waited the 14 seconds for you.