He was brilliant last night and watching him with Martial and Lingard it looks like they'd tear any team a new arse hole BUT it was Burton so I'll reign it in, the future for our attack does look bright though.
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Gift/talent are nothing until materialized. Rashford could somehow find a lucky break and finish ahead of martial. But off course anything could happen
At some point I would bite the bullet and just play both Martial and Rashford in a 3 men pace attack with Lukaku.
Mata or Micky as the 10 and I think we would be an attacking joy to watch.
Mata or Micky as the 10 and I think we would be an attacking joy to watch.
I don't think there will be anything lucky about it. He has more hunger and desire than Martial and that will see him have a better career.
That's my impression as well. Martial looks a bit moody.
Mourinho called Martial out on it last season
“We are together for almost 10 months. The same way I know the players much better now, the players should know me much better. The same way I know what the players like, the players know what I like. The same way I have to go in the direction of the players, the players have to come
“That’s the point. That’s why Marcus Rashford, even without scoring goals, even with being since September without a goal in the Premier League, was always a player I trusted, I played, I supported because he was always coming in my direction, in the direction I want from a player and what I want as a Manchester United player. He [Rashford] is about that.
“Do I think Anthony is a player with great potential? Yes, I think. Do I think he can play successfully for me? Yes I think. But he needs to give me things that I like.”
Mourinho also spoke last season in effusive terms about his admiration for Rashford relating to his work ethic and character. So long as Rashford keeps his hunger he will improve at a great rate. I think he has improved considerably since last season already.
Don't disagree with that.
I’d like to see that too but I don’t think the right sided attacker would be too happy. Although Rashford does have a great cross on him.
Huge talent and what I always find amazing is if he was say Spanish, playing in a different league, his potential would be seen differently by some on here. If you think of this lads age and what he's already achieving, by 23/24 I believe we will have one of the top 5 forwards in the world. What's also interesting is we could have another 2, in Martial and Rom.
Looks good on paper but it's not ideal playing 3 forwards together, especially without good attacking fullbacks. At least two of them would probably end up occupying the same space, more often than not, and get in each other's way. We actually saw it a few times yesterday, with Martial and Rashford. That'd also make us packed in the middle and easy to defend against.
We should try it though, of course.
I think it's quite the opposite, the fact he is local leads to people here overrating him or looking at him through rose-tinded glasses.
Rashford is rated highly by other fans too, so even they are looking through rose tinted glasses?
I'm assuming these are from just this thread? There are other threads too like "how good Rashford can be" and there are some awful ones.
Yup.
I really don't understand the point of this post, I've seen a few like this before as well. He scored 2 goals and made an assist, he was very clinical with his chances and you want us to omit that from his performance?
I suppose we should drop Lukaku too? Because apart from scoring all he does is miss chances.
This is awful from him. State of some posts.
Love this kid to bits, just electric and makes me excited watching him.
One can only hope that the English media don't choke him to death with hype. It was only Burton's second string side so there was no need for Phil Neville to talk him up alongside Mbappe and Dembele. Playing for United is enough pressure already. Let the kids grow.
Looking very exciting at the moment. He played with a lot of confidence last night, granted it was a lower league opposition but he looked like he knew he could tear them to pieces and played accordingly.
I'm also of the opinion Martial is the better player. I am similarly of the opinion that Rashford is a fantastic talent too.
The impression I get though, is that Martial doesn't really have a real chance of progression into being an automatic first XI player, whereas Rashford does. They will continue to be 'rotated' for now (i.e - Rashford starting majority of games and Martial being a sub) but the fear and expectation from me is that, at some point, Martial will stop doing what he's been doing with his 15 minute cameos and Rashford will pull away, with perceived justification due to Tony's recent contributions. Basically, Rashford will have to play a lot worse for a lot longer than Martial for the latter to be an established first XI player, which is unlikely, as Rashford himself is also a top player.
I don't think this is the right order of things personally. I've never seen a caf go on about 'movement' and a primary objective of 'tiring defenders out' between two players so much as this season when the great 'Rashford va Martial' debate has developed. For me, Rashford is by far the busier player of the two. That is likely preferred by Mourinho, and also by English football observers in general who hold 'work rate' very high. Rashford is perpetual motion, which almost looks 'dangerous' in itself when you do it as fast as he can. He can get people off their feet just by running in behind without the ball. Martial is more continental in his style, and more ball oriented. This leads to praise with the ball, and criticism without it. Rashford has 'better' (or simply, 'more', in my opinion) movement than Martial. I do think Martial has very underrated movement though. He's, again, perhaps more continental with it. Rooney ran everywhere, left back, right wing etc. Not necessarily 'great movement', and as a forward player, his movement was not necessarily 'better' than RVN or Hernandez, despite moving 'more'. For me, Martial has more of this kind of movement. That of a striker, perhaps, and not a winger. He's not static in and around the box at all. All of his goals this season have shown good movement to make himself available for the right pass. The last two goals have been from give and go's with Lingard and Rashford respectively - but he didn't lay the ball off and stand still. He was on his bike and got it back through on goal. Another example was his equaliser against Boro last season, running off Zlatan into space to receive the knockdown. What he doesn't do is position himself to receive 30-60 yard passes in the way Rashford does, which means he doesn't possess the same threat in behind on quick transitions. Within a shorter space though, I think his movement is fine.
Said before, but I can see Rashford developing like Bale, perhaps even slightly more rounded. I think he'll have a similar physique to Welbeck, and if by that time, his game is put together, he will be a force of nature. Martial, while possessing physical gifts, will never rely on them in the way Rashford and Lukaku do I don't think. He needs the ball more to his feet.
The impression I get though, is that Martial doesn't really have a real chance of progression into being an automatic first XI player, whereas Rashford does. They will continue to be 'rotated' for now (i.e - Rashford starting majority of games and Martial being a sub) but the fear and expectation from me is that, at some point, Martial will stop doing what he's been doing with his 15 minute cameos and Rashford will pull away, with perceived justification due to Tony's recent contributions. Basically, Rashford will have to play a lot worse for a lot longer than Martial for the latter to be an established first XI player, which is unlikely, as Rashford himself is also a top player.
I don't think this is the right order of things personally. I've never seen a caf go on about 'movement' and a primary objective of 'tiring defenders out' between two players so much as this season when the great 'Rashford va Martial' debate has developed. For me, Rashford is by far the busier player of the two. That is likely preferred by Mourinho, and also by English football observers in general who hold 'work rate' very high. Rashford is perpetual motion, which almost looks 'dangerous' in itself when you do it as fast as he can. He can get people off their feet just by running in behind without the ball. Martial is more continental in his style, and more ball oriented. This leads to praise with the ball, and criticism without it. Rashford has 'better' (or simply, 'more', in my opinion) movement than Martial. I do think Martial has very underrated movement though. He's, again, perhaps more continental with it. Rooney ran everywhere, left back, right wing etc. Not necessarily 'great movement', and as a forward player, his movement was not necessarily 'better' than RVN or Hernandez, despite moving 'more'. For me, Martial has more of this kind of movement. That of a striker, perhaps, and not a winger. He's not static in and around the box at all. All of his goals this season have shown good movement to make himself available for the right pass. The last two goals have been from give and go's with Lingard and Rashford respectively - but he didn't lay the ball off and stand still. He was on his bike and got it back through on goal. Another example was his equaliser against Boro last season, running off Zlatan into space to receive the knockdown. What he doesn't do is position himself to receive 30-60 yard passes in the way Rashford does, which means he doesn't possess the same threat in behind on quick transitions. Within a shorter space though, I think his movement is fine.
Said before, but I can see Rashford developing like Bale, perhaps even slightly more rounded. I think he'll have a similar physique to Welbeck, and if by that time, his game is put together, he will be a force of nature. Martial, while possessing physical gifts, will never rely on them in the way Rashford and Lukaku do I don't think. He needs the ball more to his feet.
Outstanding talent. Will turn into a physical beast, with pace & skill to match. Could become one of our greatest goalscorers. He's not 20 and has already 24 goals from 79 apps, so he's ahead of where Charlton & Rooney were at 20.
Jack Rowley (4th on Man Utd g/s list) had similar stats. By 20 (actually 18), he had 19 from 68apps. He could have had a monster career except for the small matter of WW2. He resumed 8 years later and ended up with 211 goals in 11 seasons. He would have blasted through 300 with a full career.
Anyway.....Rashford was born in October, so that's a positive sign. Charlton, Jack Rowley & Rooney were also born in October.
And....Charlton, Rooney & Rashford were all multiple scorers on their debuts....Charlton & Rashford with 2, Rooney with 3.
Jack Rowley (4th on Man Utd g/s list) had similar stats. By 20 (actually 18), he had 19 from 68apps. He could have had a monster career except for the small matter of WW2. He resumed 8 years later and ended up with 211 goals in 11 seasons. He would have blasted through 300 with a full career.
Anyway.....Rashford was born in October, so that's a positive sign. Charlton, Jack Rowley & Rooney were also born in October.
And....Charlton, Rooney & Rashford were all multiple scorers on their debuts....Charlton & Rashford with 2, Rooney with 3.
Funny how things work isn't it? bit of an omen that.
Those are some really interesting stats!
It's about giving him his lead now. He's 19, Martial is 21 and Lukaku is 24. This could be a great few years for us!
And Jose doesn't like youth?
Any word on his fitness?
You have to wonder why some people hate this kid so much. Exciting young player who came through our academy and is a boyhood United fan. Makes no sense to me.
He just got subbed didn't he? no problems AFAIK.
That 2nd goal could have been Harry Kane. Going to the ball, letting it run across his body and then firing it low and hard into the corner.
If he can develop that and do it regularly he will score bucket loads. I love that he's showing he's not just a pace merchant right now, he's evolving nicely.
My gf says he's very fit.
That second was a banger... no keepers saving that one.
For what it's worth, Just recently saw both Pogba and Lukaku admit that Rashford has the "Sickest skills" among all their teammates.
What do we make of this?
What do we make of this?
Saw them where?
The promo for Kingsman, I believe
He scored a similar goal against Slovenia/Slovakia with the same technique. You'd imagine it's something he's been working on quite a lot. At the risk of going overkill, it reminds me of Ronaldo's sudden development when everything he did started coming off.
Neville was a bit over the top really. He looked very good up top though and that is where his future will be.
Clearly much better up front.
With the occasional switches between Rashford and Martial to the wing. Best way to get the best out of him? Unfortunately it gives Pog a bit more defensive duties, so I guess it all depends on the opposition I guess.
Pogba-Matic
Mkhitaryan-------------Martial
Lukaku-Rashford
Mkhitaryan-------------Martial
Lukaku-Rashford
With the occasional switches between Rashford and Martial to the wing. Best way to get the best out of him? Unfortunately it gives Pog a bit more defensive duties, so I guess it all depends on the opposition I guess.
We played against a second string championship side
Because he regularly keeps Martial FC on the bench.
Nice.
Beautiful post. Nailed everything.
Bingo
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