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It's weird, they seem simultaneously very anti-Tory and yet pro-Brexit at the same time.
 

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There's a whole world out there, why worry about 55% of our trade being with the EU when we can sign a deal with up and coming Papua New Guinea.
It's funny that the main reason they voted out was for immigration. Can't wait until they realise the countries we do trade deals with will want increased number of their citizens being allowed to come to the UK.
 

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Labour bloke completely useless.
I met him at a metal festival in his constituency in Leeds a few months ago. He seemed a sound guy but I didn't have the heart to tell him I'd never been impressed with his media appearances.

Unfortunately tonight's is no exception.
 

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Guy just says Brexit decisions shouldn't be based on ideology. Then the biggest clap of the whole show goes to someone after he spouts some soundbite ideology...
 

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This crowd clap over anything. Just clapped over a phone going off :lol:
 

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Rees-Mogg is a liar. So simplistic.
Rees-Mogg is the only plain speaking voice on the panel with regard to Brexit. The rest are either fudge merchants or schemers.

He's wrong on foreign aid however. 0.7% spent wisely, is an investment in the future and a safety net in the present.
 

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Rees-Mogg is the only plain speaking voice on the panel with regard to Brexit. The rest are either fudge merchants or schemers.

He's wrong on foreign aid however. 0.7% spent wisely, is an investment in the future and a safety net in the present.
That's the point. Brexit isn't about 'plain speaking'. It's way too simplistic. It isn't just about in or out. There is so much that it encompasses and to merely have it boil down to that because it's 'plain speaking' is wrong.

I agree on foreign aid. 0.7% is nothing at all with the benefits it can bring.
 

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Whether you agree or disagree with student loans it is disgraceful that the interest will be 6.1%, so the government is actually making money out of the loan. Why not charge interest at CPI inflation, that's good enough for pensions and stuff? Or maybe even cap it at 1%, which seems to be the ideal for public sector pay?
 

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Rees-Mogg is the only plain speaking voice on the panel with regard to Brexit. The rest are either fudge merchants or schemers.

He's wrong on foreign aid however. 0.7% spent wisely, is an investment in the future and a safety net in the present.
Watching on delay, but I think it was the vapid Labour guy pointing out that the foreign aid budget has no bearing on funding elsewhere.
JRM right there's no soft Brexit.
Odd leftie Brexit crowd again.
 

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Watching on delay, but I think it was the vapid Labour guy pointing out that the foreign aid budget has no bearing on funding elsewhere.
JRM right there's no soft Brexit.
Odd leftie Brexit crowd again.
He is one of the least impressive politicians in parliament. Never seen someone consult their notes as constantly on QT, I'm not sure he'd be able to conjure a single point on any question without consulting his bullet points.
 

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Christ, Julia Hartley-Brewer on. Great to see it back...
 

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This Week with AN back next week. He's given up Sunday Politics, but will rejoin Daily Politics in October. I think Jo Coburn is better actually, just hope she doesn't get over-confident and go all Paxman-ish or anything.
 

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This Week with AN back next week. He's given up Sunday Politics, but will rejoin Daily Politics in October. I think Jo Coburn is better actually, just hope she doesn't get over-confident and go all Paxman-ish or anything.
I'm all about AN, I like Jo but I enjoy Daily Politics less when it's just her.

That's a shame about SP, do we know who's replacing AN or have they cancelled the show?
 

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Sarah Smith, who according to a quick google is the daughter of the former Labour leader John Smith. So another Jock, but whether she leans left like her dad or not I don't know. Andrew Neil is Tory of course, and I read somewhere that since Cameron's time every single news editor and sub-editor of the BBC is or has been a member of the Conservative party. That might be bollocks though, I don't know, but if true a bit of balance might be a good thing.
 

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Sarah Smith, who according to a quick google is the daughter of the former Labour leader John Smith. So another Jock, but whether she leans left like her dad or not I don't know. Andrew Neil is Tory of course, and I read somewhere that since Cameron's time every single news editor and sub-editor of the BBC is or has been a member of the Conservative party. That might be bollocks though, I don't know, but if true a bit of balance might be a good thing.
Interesting, thanks. AN is without doubt right of centre and has ties with Murdoch etc. but the fact that in this knowledge I can see him properly examining the position of any representative of any section of the political spectrum makes me respect him all the more.

There was that 'controversy' a while back about Jo doing some work at a Labour meeting in London and some right wing news sources were giving it 'BBC left wing/liberal bias!', but surely we don't expect political journalists, even those at the BBC, to be politically inert robots with no opinions and biases? I appreciate that BBC guys can have their leanings and affiliations but still be fair and balanced in their lines of questioning on shows like Daily Politics.
 
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Yes, I've always thought AN does a good job in trying to be impartial, no complaints there. Unlike Dimbleby, incidentally. I've not detected anything in Jo Coburn, so I suppose that's hopeful.
 

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Well who'd have guessed it. Telegraph Brexit editor woman doesn't seem to have any understanding of what's going on at all. I can see her going the whole program without giving a single opinion. Which from her point of view is probably the best strategy to be honest.
 

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Phillips is painful. Mason and Cable have been alright.
 

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Who was that dickhead at the end who said she'd managed to pay off her house by the age of 21 because she'd been working hard since 16?

Would love to see what her parents are worth.
 

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Who was that dickhead at the end who said she'd managed to pay off her house by the age of 21 because she'd been working hard since 16?

Would love to see what her parents are worth.
Does that really matter? She's worked hard either way, and made a worthwhile point about the necessity of attending uni. There is a pressure put on young people to go, yet a fair number might be better suited to other qualifications/apprenticeships, or delaying higher education till they are older.