They could easily pass for brothers.fecks sake, the editor of the Sun makes Boris Johnson look neat, tidy and smart.
They could easily pass for brothers.fecks sake, the editor of the Sun makes Boris Johnson look neat, tidy and smart.
Liddle isn't the editor, just your common or garden bigot commentator.fecks sake, the editor of the Sun makes Boris Johnson look neat, tidy and smart.
I know, it's actually creating a nice bit of suspense, waiting for the feck-up.Diane Abbott is doing pretty good this time.
Smooth fecker.Yanis is very good.
Yeah. The conservative guy was woeful with the Saudi question.Yanis is very good.
I think it was the scale of the lies that threw people. Everyone is used to politicians exaggerating or lying, but there's usually some subtly to it. They might promise to do something and then 6 months later it hasn't been done and they start backsliding, but with the Brexit vote they were literally telling bare-faced lies and a few days after the vote just basically admitting it. That level of careless deception is something we really haven't seen before as far as I can see.On that specific point about £350m for the NHS, I was discussing this with my missus last night.
Is there any justification for actually believing that promise other than being a moron?
That is my contention. If you took that pledge at face value - if you fully expected, in the event of a vote to leave, that the money would actually be delivered to the NHS - you have to be a moron. There is no other explanation.
My missus reckons its fair enough that reasonable, otherwise perfectly intelligent and/or capable people were taken in by it because "they dont care about politics" and therefore have no reason to doubt it.
Surely not though? I mean, as a Remainer Im as happy to use it as a stick to beat the Brexiters with as the next person. And I know Dominic Cummings thinks the pledge was significant, that without it Remain would have won. And maybe that's true. But even then, does that mean people actually, hand on heart believed it? Isnt it more like advertising when people know something isnt true but are influenced by it anyway? Like one of those pseudo-scientific adverts, you dont believe the stats they give you but you might well still end up buying it because its become familiar. I think people fell for the idea that we would have control of the money, surely nobody actually took it as a cast-iron promise of that money? Except the irretrievably stupid?
Apologies to anyone who saw that ad and took it at face value. Im sure Im wrong about you.
Hmm really?! So great that his own country drove him out of office pretty swiftly? Seems a bit tedious tbh.And yeah, Yanis Varoufakis is great. If he was leader of the Labour Party I would be more inclined to vote for it. I have more confidence in his economic analysis than Corbyn or McDonnell's.
He literally backs Corbyn and Mcdonnell's plan.And yeah, Yanis Varoufakis is great. If he was leader of the Labour Party I would be more inclined to vote for it. I have more confidence in his economic analysis than Corbyn or McDonnell's.
Did you even watch Question Time? Do you even know why he resigned as Greek finance minister?Hmm really?! So great that his own country drove him out of office pretty swiftly? Seems a bit tedious tbh.
You need to watch documentaries after Brexit to see that for a lot of people this swayed their decision.On that specific point about £350m for the NHS, I was discussing this with my missus last night.
Is there any justification for actually believing that promise other than being a moron?
That is my contention. If you took that pledge at face value - if you fully expected, in the event of a vote to leave, that the money would actually be delivered to the NHS - you have to be a moron. There is no other explanation.
My missus reckons its fair enough that reasonable, otherwise perfectly intelligent and/or capable people were taken in by it because "they dont care about politics" and therefore have no reason to doubt it.
Surely not though? I mean, as a Remainer Im as happy to use it as a stick to beat the Brexiters with as the next person. And I know Dominic Cummings thinks the pledge was significant, that without it Remain would have won. And maybe that's true. But even then, does that mean people actually, hand on heart believed it? Isnt it more like advertising when people know something isnt true but are influenced by it anyway? Like one of those pseudo-scientific adverts, you dont believe the stats they give you but you might well still end up buying it because its become familiar. I think people fell for the idea that we would have control of the money, surely nobody actually took it as a cast-iron promise of that money? Except the irretrievably stupid?
Apologies to anyone who saw that ad and took it at face value. Im sure Im wrong about you.
Yeah that's what my missus said. I know you're right. I just find it hard to accept people actually fell for such an obvious lie.You need to watch documentaries after Brexit to see that for a lot of people this swayed their decision.
There are desperate people out there, patients, their family, workers, etc. that rely on the NHS and this massive lie really played on their desperation. Desperate people would believe anything not because they are morons but because they look for any sort of hope.
They were taken advantage of because there’s just no accountability in a referendum like that. None of the claims made by leave would have to be upheld because it’s not like a political party or direct MP making the claims and then paying for it at the next election.Yeah that's what my missus said. I know you're right. I just find it hard to accept people actually fell for such an obvious lie.
what was that about?That bloke speaking with the electrolarynx was a cool turn up. I was just waiting for *** bass to drop...
A bloke in the audience had an electronic voicebox, it was cool and reminded me of a drum 'n' bass song. It's amazing how clear they make the voice considering what they have had removed.what was that about?
I think it was nice of Daft Punk's dad to show up and show an interest in UK politicsA bloke in the audience had an electronic voicebox, it was cool and reminded me of a drum 'n' bass song. It's amazing how clear they make the voice considering what they have had removed.
Perhaps it's because you don't hear them often but I found it really interesting.I think it was nice of Daft Punk's dad to show up and show an interest in UK politics
I used to play Cricket against a lad who had had a tracheotomy and he had a bit of plastic covering a hole where his Adam's Apple was. It sometimes used to make this whistling noise as he ran up to bowl which was incredibly off putting. He told us after one game that he used to do something with it to get it just right to make that noise because he knew it put the batsmen offPerhaps it's because you don't hear them often but I found it really interesting.
Whistling Death himselfI used to play Cricket against a lad who had had a tracheotomy and he had a bit of plastic covering a hole where his Adam's Apple was. It sometimes used to make this whistling noise as he ran up to bowl which was incredibly off putting. He told us after one game that he used to do something with it to get it just right to make that noise because he knew it put the batsmen off
wow i would see if they could get a little jericho trumpet fitted - imagine sounding like a Stuka dive bomber as you come into bowl!Whistling Death himself
As in something in his throat to make him literally sound like that? First I know of this!A bloke in the audience had an electronic voicebox, it was cool and reminded me of a drum 'n' bass song. It's amazing how clear they make the voice considering what they have had removed.