He singled out Chelsea for praise for their build up play last season, too. Didn't mention Spurs though. Evidently he feels they've improved in that regard this year.
Guardiola aims jibe at United | Fellaini heads it clear
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Come on, in the context of Mourinho and Pep's relationship, Pep's sanctimonious attitude towards footballing 'philosophy', and the fact that the two teams/managers are neck and neck this season it's not much of a stretch to see this as a bit of a dig.
Glad we have this stuff back again. Always makes the Season more interesting when Managers are throwing shade around.
In all honesty, I hope he ignores the bald prick.
Well yeah we are more direct but I don't think we play more long balls than the rest of them.
Sounds like he’s getting his excuses in early...
Aye, I see it as a compliment, and generally over the years (maybe it's changed a bit now?) the EPL winners were usually the ones who could mix up playing a bit of footy, with the physical/grinding out 1-0's against physical oppos or when things aren't quite going your way, when needs be.
The fact that Pep doesn't believe in a plan B, could well make him happy, but it could also turn out to be a major weakness for him/City, later on in the season. Unless his side maintains their form throughout. I guess we'll see.
The fact that Pep doesn't believe in a plan B, could well make him happy, but it could also turn out to be a major weakness for him/City, later on in the season. Unless his side maintains their form throughout. I guess we'll see.
If he was at a big club then there would be no excuses. Thank god that he's at City instead
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39926264
I don't really get things like this? Opinions change. Most would have loved him as a successor, but now that he's slyly demeaning us - yeh feck him.
Thought it was quite funny, myself.
We can't laugh at Benitez losing the plot and go into "OMG he dissed us! Bald wanker!
" mode ourselves.
We can't laugh at Benitez losing the plot and go into "OMG he dissed us! Bald wanker!
" mode ourselves.He doesn't say anything about long passes. Second balls most likely means United is very strong and fast on getting the ball back, especially on 50/50 duels. There's nothing negative from that comment, on the contrary. Pep sees United as the most difficult team to deal with.
That's your interpretation of what he said. The words used don't say that.
I was responding to a post asking for someone to interpret what Guardiola said...
Its amazing people can't accept a manager's tactical preferences without considering it a dig
Yeah but you're telling people not to be precious about what your interpretation is. Granted it's still not something to get overly worked up about but they may interpret it a different way to you.
Nothing wrong with what he said, we play more long balls and are better at collecting the 2nd ball/knockdowns etc than them. Not sure where the hit it long to Fellaini stuff comes from though, as nowdays he doesn't come on as a target so much - when we're hitting it long it's generally to Rashford/Martial/Lukaku to chase onto.
That said, an offside winner off Fellaini's arse is still a winning goal, I'd take that against them just for the rage.
That said, an offside winner off Fellaini's arse is still a winning goal, I'd take that against them just for the rage.
I'm saying there is no need to be upset about Guardiola saying we're more direct than City, Chelsea, or Spurs because:
1) we probably are.
2) there's nothing wrong with going direct sometimes.
3) there's no particular reason to get upset about anything Guardiola says on any subject. He's a sanctimonious ass and life is too short.
Football is not just about one style to play it. I just don't understand why managers who participate and breath football can just just ignore this basic understanding.
I understand different manager has different ways/and thinking of playing football but to suggest the whole football spectrum should play by one system/style will only make football dull.
The way pep, klopp or many others to always tell people how they should play football is like telling them to just open their nets and let them score and be done with.
It boggle the mind.
I understand different manager has different ways/and thinking of playing football but to suggest the whole football spectrum should play by one system/style will only make football dull.
The way pep, klopp or many others to always tell people how they should play football is like telling them to just open their nets and let them score and be done with.
It boggle the mind.
Pep isn't a bad man and I am not sure why all the name calling, but he is a chequebook manager who requires the best players in the World, to win trophies. Having the best squad (as he did last year), isn't good enough....he needs to have by far the best squad and that is why I feel we have a good chance of winning the league, even though MCFC do have the best squad this year.
Had Jose gone to MCFC, instead, and we had Pep...we'd be screwed. Jose + best squad in the league = EPL title...no ifs no buts.
It goes to show that human beings can change their minds, especially over the course of 2 years.
I was always dead set for Jose to join us, as I felt he was the only one with the credentials to withstand the pressure placed on whoever manages MUFC.
Had he taken over (the reigning Champions) when SAF retired, I am pretty sure we'd have 1-2 league titles and we'd be aiming to win the CL.
Had Jose gone to MCFC, instead, and we had Pep...we'd be screwed. Jose + best squad in the league = EPL title...no ifs no buts.
Hehehe.
It goes to show that human beings can change their minds, especially over the course of 2 years.
I was always dead set for Jose to join us, as I felt he was the only one with the credentials to withstand the pressure placed on whoever manages MUFC.
Had he taken over (the reigning Champions) when SAF retired, I am pretty sure we'd have 1-2 league titles and we'd be aiming to win the CL.
We don't play more long balls than Chelsea and Spurs. Only City and Arsenal have played less long balls than us in the league so far this year.
Yep. Just remember Pep, at the end of the season, when youre sitting in the corner with your head in your hands, rocking back and forth and dribbling on the floor, having handed in your notice saying you need a break from football: you started it.
We play less long balls than seasons past. We can be very direct when we want to though.
Guardiola is like every dick football fan there is. All mouth and ready to banter and chat about other teams when winning, whereas a few months ago he was in the middle of a nervous breakdown.
In addition he acts like some sort of johann cruyff reincarnated champion of the beautiful game when in actual fact he got his pants pulled down and went out and spent 300m to rectify it. He's already talking about signing a new left back because one of the many full backs he bought this summer has an injury.
For a manager that took a sabbatical due to stress, and is constantly bemoaning fixture schedules and their toll on a manager, he's up his own arse and I wouldn't be surprised if even his splurge in the summer doesn't save him from himself this year.
Any success he's had has been on the back of inheriting a team that I'd have won the treble with, carried by messi and one of the best midfields to grace modern football. As far as I'm concerned he still unproven, and I look forward to his next hissy fit while the media fall at his feet
In addition he acts like some sort of johann cruyff reincarnated champion of the beautiful game when in actual fact he got his pants pulled down and went out and spent 300m to rectify it. He's already talking about signing a new left back because one of the many full backs he bought this summer has an injury.
For a manager that took a sabbatical due to stress, and is constantly bemoaning fixture schedules and their toll on a manager, he's up his own arse and I wouldn't be surprised if even his splurge in the summer doesn't save him from himself this year.
Any success he's had has been on the back of inheriting a team that I'd have won the treble with, carried by messi and one of the best midfields to grace modern football. As far as I'm concerned he still unproven, and I look forward to his next hissy fit while the media fall at his feet
Whether it was intended as a dig or not, if Jose fires back then we could see the whole Pep vs Jose thing explode once again. I'll be surprised if Pep has meant to start anything considering how mentally draining it was for him in Spain. He's too fragile to get into a war with Jose.
Plus, this time there's more than 2 teams to be worried about. Conte will be happy if they get into a war of words again.
Plus, this time there's more than 2 teams to be worried about. Conte will be happy if they get into a war of words again.
This. Before seeing these stats I wouldn't have said we play a more direct style of play or more long balls forward that some of the other teams in the league. Just proves that teams like Liverpool and Spurs can play the tidy, passing game at times but just as easily resort to hitting a long ball forward to push their side up the pitch quicker. I think it's just a slight that is always aimed at Jose and United because of the way he has played in the past and the personnel we have available to us.
As others have said it's a really effective way of bypassing a team's press to get in behind. Purists like Pep might not like it as it doesn't suit their style but it is certainly effective when used correctly and at the right time.
I don't think being accused of playing long balls is a dig. Our football is more expansive than Chelsea's Very happy for us to go long when the situation calls for it.
I agree he's likely not deliberately trying to start anything, which makes randomly speaking out about a fellow manager and his style of play when they are neck and neck with you an example of just how arrogant this idiot is. No respect for anybody outside his messiah complex
I think Pep is right. City play far more attractive football than we do. We are a strong powerful team capable of playing decent football. That is the Mourinho template and it usually succeeds. Does it make Utd exciting? Occasionally and far better than Van Gaal.
Put it this way (and this I'm not having a go) but how long would Fellaini have lasted under Guardiola? Weeks, months? Under Jose, he is a key player apparently.
Put it this way (and this I'm not having a go) but how long would Fellaini have lasted under Guardiola? Weeks, months? Under Jose, he is a key player apparently.
That's probably the least significant 'jibe' anyone has ever aimed at us. Who gives a feck?
I love this comment by pep. It is clear they fear us,otherwise no point of talking about us. Jose loves this kind of mind games. I hope jose saves his jab for some other time. First let us get 3 points against palace
Fav post for a good while....
I don't necessarily disagree with you with Fellaini not being a Pep player but tbf, he was an even more key player under LvG. I know it wasn't exactly exciting football, but LvG follows a similar football philosophy to Pep. Point being, against all odds, Fellaini has proven himself with each manager we've had since SAF.
This sums him up and his **** perfectly.
Im not bothered as under SAF same old rubbish being talked about Arsenal and their style. Tbh I dont see that much difference in our style of play then and now. The difference is the personnel to play it. If needed, Fergie would go direct...
yes, you just know that's what's going to happen...its just got to be!Peps finally succumbed to the City 'self harming syndrome' of 'foot shooting'
@Ish a bit of a tangent but while Guardiola and LVG both advocate possession football, I think both (and especially Guardiola) would say they have quite different takes on that broader philosophy. LVG and Cruyff were always having little pops at each other's styles of football and I think Guardiola is more of the Cruyff school.
To be honest I think most people basically agree with the basics here:
City play the most attractive football as their Plan A. But they dont have a Plan B.
Mourinho is far more pragmatic and will play very attractive football - maybe slightly less attractive, but pretty damn attractive - at times, or completely park the bus and play anti-football, or anything in between, depending on circumstances.
So itll come down to whether City can execute their Plan A well enough, and consistently enough, over the course of the season, to win the league. If their Plan A runs into trouble, both United and Chelsea have a great chance this year.
To be honest I think most people basically agree with the basics here:
City play the most attractive football as their Plan A. But they dont have a Plan B.
Mourinho is far more pragmatic and will play very attractive football - maybe slightly less attractive, but pretty damn attractive - at times, or completely park the bus and play anti-football, or anything in between, depending on circumstances.
So itll come down to whether City can execute their Plan A well enough, and consistently enough, over the course of the season, to win the league. If their Plan A runs into trouble, both United and Chelsea have a great chance this year.
Yeah, 100% agreed Adebesi. A lot of variables is also going to impact everyone. Injuries, being one, and whoever is best going to deal with them is going to have a big edge.
The point i was rather making re LvG and Pep have similar philosophies was more in relation to someone saying use Fellaini as an example of attractive City and pragmatic United. I simply meant that Fellaini's constantly surprised us all. So I wouldn't write him off
I think what sticks in my mind as well is that City did very well the first few months of last season (I don't have stats to back it up so i might be spewing shite), and completely dropped off. Obviously now, Pep's wiser (wrt the EPL) and the players are wiser to his demands and more settled and his squad quality (especially FB) has drastically improved. So you won't expect another drop off like last season.