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Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
From an outsider's perspective, hiring Giggs would be a disaster for United.
As soon as Moyes took over from Ferguson, opposition clubs instantly got the scent of blood and would go to Old Trafford thinking they had a good chance of winning. Mourinho's brought the aura back to United and teams are scared to play at Old Trafford again. Giving the job to a novice like Giggs instead of a coach who is proven and respected at the top level would put you back to the level where teams like Newcastle and West Ham would come to Old Trafford thinking "we've got a chance of beating these".
As soon as Moyes took over from Ferguson, opposition clubs instantly got the scent of blood and would go to Old Trafford thinking they had a good chance of winning. Mourinho's brought the aura back to United and teams are scared to play at Old Trafford again. Giving the job to a novice like Giggs instead of a coach who is proven and respected at the top level would put you back to the level where teams like Newcastle and West Ham would come to Old Trafford thinking "we've got a chance of beating these".
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Pretty sure everyone who voted Giggs was taking the piss - like you said, would be naive, especially as we're not in the dominant position we were (and so shouldn't be taking risks).
Feck this shit. Just want someone with a philosophy and style of play, doesn't have to be uber attacking, Just consistent.
I geniually don't think we train attacking football at all. Players look clueless. Jose needs to get his shit together.
I geniually don't think we train attacking football at all. Players look clueless. Jose needs to get his shit together.
Louis was available, ditto José. Ancelotti is currently. Allegri would be interesting.
Pochettino was made for this club. That's if Real or PSG don't beat us to him. Delighted with Jose but Pochettino is more of a natural fit for Utd
Pochettino or Simeone for me. While Pochettino's yet to win anything he's demonstrated his ability to put together a capable, well-oiled attacking side who can work well together. Obviously his Spurs side aren't perfect but I'd say he's got them functioning to a reasonable standard at the very least in almost every position, with some entertaining football thrown into the bargain.
Simeone's a lot more defensive-minded but is one of the best tactically-minded coaches in world football right now. Plus, given his time at Atletico so far, he's the type who seems to like a long-term project and who's been able to deliver unexpected success and avoid immediate regression, to a certain extent.
Simeone's a lot more defensive-minded but is one of the best tactically-minded coaches in world football right now. Plus, given his time at Atletico so far, he's the type who seems to like a long-term project and who's been able to deliver unexpected success and avoid immediate regression, to a certain extent.
If Jose does not sign an extension
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Leonardo Jardim?
Not yet convinced by Pochettino. He needs to actually win something to elevate himself into the frame for the Utd job. We need a proven winner, not a potential winner.
Realistically he's only got the cups and they are pretty pot luck at times to win.....I mean one off day and you're out. I wouldn't put too much emphasis over a cup win when put against a timeline showing obvious progress and the putting together of a team which performs well consistently over several seasons. Some bang average teams have won cups over the years...
Did Moyes not produce, in Everton, a team that performed consistently well over several seasons?
For me there's a world of difference between a manager who gets his team to play good football but wins nothing, and one who gets his team to win trophies.
1: Poch
2\3: Can't decide between Sarri and Jardim
2\3: Can't decide between Sarri and Jardim
Personally I wouldn't compare the teams Moyes produced to this Spurs team....I don't think they compare only on the not winning trophies measurement....There's a handful of the spurs players which would have a really good shout for a place in our first team for a start.
Yep, a great coach would have won a trophy with that Spurs side in the past 2 years.
Then again, maybe its because they have a great coach that they got close.
If it's to play the United way, then Poch every time. If you want more pragatism then Simeone. All managerial appointments are a gamble but i'd love United to get back to that entertaining football i fell in love in, so Poch for me
Jardim or Sarri.
Poch
Probably this. Though I like Sarri more and more with each passing week (I don’t watch Napoli often but have started watching closer, since he’s been mentioned here often)
who made a poll without Jardim in it? fecking Joachim Low and no Jardim amateurs
amateursIf Mourinho leaves it simply has to be Pochettino - PL proven, has basically nothing to spend at Spurs (compared to what we'd give him), plays good football.
Plus you'd weaken a nagging rival in Spuds/Levy.
Plus you'd weaken a nagging rival in Spuds/Levy.
Silly thread. You guys have too much free time.
Look up 'hypothetical'.
And besides, the reality is that we're now a club who change managers every few seasons until we find that right fit, whether or not you favour that, it's not outside the realm of possibility that Mourinho could leave this Summer - I don't want that to happen, I want him to get it right - but it could easily happen.
And being a huge club, with huge resources, we can pull the best of managers, thus it's not unreasonable for people to talk about managers that could be that mythical fit.
We're not getting Pochetino. Someone needs to put Nagelsman's name in that poll.
I'd be annoyed if we hired Ancelotti. He's LVG level...not the man to turn this around for us and definitely not a long term plan.
My 3 favourites would be Pochettino, Simeone and Silva. Ancelotti is damaged goods now, wouldnt touch him after the Bayern stint and i dont think he would be the right man for the job. The rest are either not good enough or far too inexperienced.
I read that Pochetino and his close management team, including Levy spent 10 days on holiday this Summer at Joe Lewis' (Spurs owner) estate in Argentina. They got on famously, and I think Poch and Levy are quite thick together. With Spurs going into the new stadium next year, and Poch appears to be an honourable sort, I can't see him dumping Spurs. Therefore, having seen Napoli almost put City to the sword, lets go for Sarri. It will be attacking exciting footie.
Guardiola. Why not.
I'm sure we could match whatever City are paying him (maybe?).
We wouldn't give him preferred ceilingless transfer budget but we could compete relatively well and see just how great a manager he is with restrictions.
Failing that... Pochettino.
I'm sure we could match whatever City are paying him (maybe?).
We wouldn't give him preferred ceilingless transfer budget but we could compete relatively well and see just how great a manager he is with restrictions.
Failing that... Pochettino.
At this moment in time, they would be my top 3 candidates too.
Hmm
I'm all for Pochettino if we can get him, but maybe it won't be possible.
Do you think Sarri would be a good fit in the PL? Does he speak any English?
No alan curbishley on the list
Outrageous!
Outrageous!
Our very own Zidane1. Sarri
2. Tuchel
3. Jardim
4. Pochettino
Sarri had done an absolutely outstanding job at Napoli, considering the financial resources the club has vis-a-vis other European clubs. One of Sarri's greatest strengths has been his ability to develop players; their starting XI has roughly been the same the last three seasons. Napoli are probably the only side who can rival City right now in terms of aesthetics in style of play. Their one-touch play, pace of play, and mixture of verticality with tiki-taka make them a joy to watch.
Tuchel' Dortmund side had a low floor and high ceiling, which is fair considering they were a very young team. You also have to bear in mind that they lost an awful lot of valuable experience in the summer of 2016 when they sold Hummels, Mkhitaryan, and Gundogan. Importantly, Mkhitaryan performed very well under Tuchel; he really benefited from the structured nature of Tuchel's Dortmund side.
Jardim seems to be very a good man-manager, although I'm not really sure that his attacking structure is that great compared to both Sarri and Tuchel. I think Monaco's fluid attacking last season as based more on lightning-quick transitions and outstanding individual quality, as opposed to intelligent, well-structured attacks.
Pochettino has really impressed me tactically this season in that he has shown his Spurs side to be highly flexible and adaptable i.e. switching from three-at-the-back to a back-four, alternating between counter-attacking approaches and more possession-based approaches. Much like Jardim however, I'm still not really convinced that his Spurs side attack in a very structured nature; I think that they, like most other teams, struggle to break down teams in deep blocks (Parking the bus), unless Eriksen creates something out of nothing.
2. Tuchel
3. Jardim
4. Pochettino
Sarri had done an absolutely outstanding job at Napoli, considering the financial resources the club has vis-a-vis other European clubs. One of Sarri's greatest strengths has been his ability to develop players; their starting XI has roughly been the same the last three seasons. Napoli are probably the only side who can rival City right now in terms of aesthetics in style of play. Their one-touch play, pace of play, and mixture of verticality with tiki-taka make them a joy to watch.
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Tuchel' Dortmund side had a low floor and high ceiling, which is fair considering they were a very young team. You also have to bear in mind that they lost an awful lot of valuable experience in the summer of 2016 when they sold Hummels, Mkhitaryan, and Gundogan. Importantly, Mkhitaryan performed very well under Tuchel; he really benefited from the structured nature of Tuchel's Dortmund side.
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Jardim seems to be very a good man-manager, although I'm not really sure that his attacking structure is that great compared to both Sarri and Tuchel. I think Monaco's fluid attacking last season as based more on lightning-quick transitions and outstanding individual quality, as opposed to intelligent, well-structured attacks.
Pochettino has really impressed me tactically this season in that he has shown his Spurs side to be highly flexible and adaptable i.e. switching from three-at-the-back to a back-four, alternating between counter-attacking approaches and more possession-based approaches. Much like Jardim however, I'm still not really convinced that his Spurs side attack in a very structured nature; I think that they, like most other teams, struggle to break down teams in deep blocks (Parking the bus), unless Eriksen creates something out of nothing.
I personally think we missed a trick by not hiring Giggsy after LvG. It was a risk, but then Pep at Barça was a major risk at the time as well.
When it comes to knowing Man United, Giggs is no novice. He knows the club and it's ethos for the past twenty years inside out. I mean, should we really care if he can manage at Swansea or the Championship? Will Zidane do well at Las Palmas?
If LvG considered him good enough to be his assistant, then with his United background, he's capable enough for me. Problem is, we are now more of a brand rather than a club and lack the stones to do it. And then we moan where the United way has gone..
Such an underwhelming manager list. Apart from Allegri, Guardiola and Ancelotti, the rest of the hipsters like Poch, Sarri, Silva etc haven't won 10 trophies between them. Shows how much we should value Jose.
I have confidence Jose will stay, but hypothetically, I'd go for Allegri. He's won things, is tactically astute and unlike Ancelotti, he's not completely past it. Best out of the lot. Simeone's won the league, but I think he's a bit of a one trick pony and too conservative.
Also, if there's a chance of getting Conte once he leaves Chelsea, I am all for it.
I have confidence Jose will stay, but hypothetically, I'd go for Allegri. He's won things, is tactically astute and unlike Ancelotti, he's not completely past it. Best out of the lot. Simeone's won the league, but I think he's a bit of a one trick pony and too conservative.
Also, if there's a chance of getting Conte once he leaves Chelsea, I am all for it.
Poch if we could actually get him.
Silva if he keeps performing well on a small budget looks an interesting candidate for the longer term from left field.
Ancelotti to steady the ship if we needed a manager after Jose legs it or we have a terrible run and he gets sacked.
Silva if he keeps performing well on a small budget looks an interesting candidate for the longer term from left field.
Ancelotti to steady the ship if we needed a manager after Jose legs it or we have a terrible run and he gets sacked.
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Sad Tuchel has got lesser votes than Giggs Neville and even M. Silva. And Pochettino is the most favored one. As if he has won anything, and his system isn't reliant on one player.
Funny Guardiola is also in the poll, as if he would come to a club that penny pinches every damn season. As a matter of fact, Tuchel's destroyed Pochetino in Europa League 5-1, but hipsters would love Poch because he dined with Fergie one night.
Funny Guardiola is also in the poll, as if he would come to a club that penny pinches every damn season. As a matter of fact, Tuchel's destroyed Pochetino in Europa League 5-1, but hipsters would love Poch because he dined with Fergie one night.