Yeah. We got an exactly identical situation which might result in similar outcome, difference is in Gomes' case it hasn't actually ended in him leaving so far, yet he blasts Mourinho for the possibility of Gomes leaving but saves Guardiola any criticism for Sancho actually leaving. It's literally amazing.
The state of Guardiola | Regrets Redmond incident
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Most people on here probably are relieved because we don't have to put up with you adopting United as your 2nd club.
poor pep, might be time for another sabbatical *cough*rehab*cough*
Didn't see the big deal.. He was just praising him from what I could see. Pep has strange mannerisms but nothing different to how Jose spoke to Kluivert. Telling him he's impressed etc
Bitter reds in the house
Rival fans angry at a rival manager getting away with everything. Shocker.
Nothing to see here Pep is a super human being...after all only super human beings produce doping levels of nandrolone naturally due to their super human physiology...
The way he shook his hand and put an arm around him was sarcastic as feck. He is shouting at him as if he is his player. If this was Mourinho he would banned or something. The way Guardiola talks to the reporters in interviews is also very weird, starts crying when things aren't going his way. I hope Guardiola never wins any trophies for Manchester City and I want to see him have a meltdown on the sidelines. 
But Ibra instead and Aguero down on the ground shouting for a free kick but referee tells him to get on with the game. I would like to see Pep talking to Ibra after this. This would be epic.
I like him.
One coach has a history developing young players, the other doesn't. If young players spurn that chance (Gomes included) for money, won't matter who the coach is in the end. Jadon had a coach who trusts young players but bolted. Gomes, should he leave, doesn't necessarily have a 1st team coach waiting for him with the same sort of trust so it may end up being about money, trust & opportunity. But because Angel has been at United since he was a young child (Unlike Sancho at City) he may spurn all of that to thrive at the club he's been developed at - that's the beauty of developing your own talent, you breed loyalty & a desire to succeed there.
Same bs again and again.
Banned this idiot and threadbanned another. Carry on people.
Honestly, that's actually a very good point.
I used to a longtime ago. Funny enough, the celebration didn’t bother me much. I think he has changed over the past several years. Nowadays he thinks he is royalty and lacks that bit of self control. The way he talked to media when things were not going right for him was really bizarre last year. He does come across as a bit of arrogant prat with a sense of divine right. Forgets that he basically acquired all the players he wanted with a blank cheque book. And sorry if a team that has a fraction of the talent and decides to park the bus away from home, plays the way they did. Needs a little dose of reality and humility that I hope he gets served after this run of theirs.
What history of developing young players at top clubs does Guardiola actually have?
You are basing this on absolutely nothing. You have basically decided that if Gomes leaves, it's because of Mourinho, but Sancho left purely because of money and had all the reason to stay in Guardiola. This makes zero sense and is fanboyism of extreme proportions.
If Gomes is frustrated at not getting playing time at 17, despite having already made it to the bench a couple of times under Mourinho, he's mental. I don't think he is though, and you are basically inventing the whole problem on the spot.
Pogba left United that had Ferguson, possibly one of the best in the world at developing young players. If it weren't for your Mourinho agenda, you would never come up with such drivel.
I really really want to see him do the same thing to Zlatan next weekend 
Wasting your time Sarni.
Did you see the video Pogue posted? This is the first time I've seen it, and my first thought isn't "praising" tbh.
Yeah, he is a bit of a weirdo.
Zlatan would probably head kick him.I really really want to see him do the same thing to Zlatan next weekend
You have touched on a massive insight and one that even Guardiola finds impossible, hence having to leave Barcelona after a few years of intensity.
I don’t think it’s possible for his players at City to maintain this style of football over an English season, espceially the rain sodden soft pitches of next 3 months. Physical and mental Tiredness and injuries will quickly accumulate and that’s when things will not work out.
Still requires the first team to beat them, to show others how to do it, but when the dam breaks, it will be quite spectacular
In another thread he wants Pep to sign two new players in January. Not sure where his 'Pep develop young players theory' went suddenly.
I wrote last season when City was struggling to compete for top 4 that I saw brilliant football moments from his team and he would need some new players and consistency to operate his football and win the title.
I don't care how much he spent in the summer, what he said on the press or how he celebrate the win. The most important thing is he did the right thing to this City side, transformed them into both effective and joyful team to watch.
I don't care how much he spent in the summer, what he said on the press or how he celebrate the win. The most important thing is he did the right thing to this City side, transformed them into both effective and joyful team to watch.
If anything the Barcelona supporters should be pissed off with "Pep" pussying out from managing their club any longer.
He thinks Nolito who played from lower division team and made debut when he was 24 as promoting young players. I'm not even joking.
Nolito was fecking 24 when he played for the first time for Barca senior side, he was signed as a 20 year old youngster and played 3 years with Barca B but somehow that counts as promoting youth. That's a level of delusion we are talking about here.
I like passion. Can't see anyone winning at anything without it. Some of the most brilliant people have done equally brilliant stupid things.
I don't like Pepinho, i don't like Jose either. What i don't get, however, is the way one gets away with things the other wouldn't. This is mostly thanks to the media which chooses to criticize different managers in different ways. My main issue about all these primadonnas is the hype surrounding them. Pep has under-performed in Europe and still hasn't proven much against the other continental super powers. Klopp's super hard rock heavy metal whatever football has also achieved bread crumbs.
If anything, Jose's successes in the pass are the most impressive achievements among all these over-hyped coaches. They are great, they wouldn't be where they are if they weren't but they seem to get away with murder. Fanboys also don't help.
I don't like Pepinho, i don't like Jose either. What i don't get, however, is the way one gets away with things the other wouldn't. This is mostly thanks to the media which chooses to criticize different managers in different ways. My main issue about all these primadonnas is the hype surrounding them. Pep has under-performed in Europe and still hasn't proven much against the other continental super powers. Klopp's super hard rock heavy metal whatever football has also achieved bread crumbs.
If anything, Jose's successes in the pass are the most impressive achievements among all these over-hyped coaches. They are great, they wouldn't be where they are if they weren't but they seem to get away with murder. Fanboys also don't help.
ffsHe's pretty eccentric like that. I remember seeing him berate Kimmich at Bayern after a game where he'd just saved their skin. I suppose it's a small price to pay for the style of football but it's a bit out of order to be doing that with opposition players.
What's wrong with a bit of passion?
depends on what your definition of young players as, Sterling, Stones, Sane, Jesus have all improved with his coaching, but if you're on about youth players then that's the job of Wilcox and co to ensure players are developed enough they can transition to the first team, and the last few games 2 youth players in Foden and Diaz have made the bench and played in the CL
I actually enjoyed the moment. Pep lives and breathes football and he has such an acute belief of how football should be played, such exacting standards that he can’t contain his frustration and disappointment when he sees talented players not expressing themselves on the pitch.
That’s not to say what he did was impressive or necessary but he obviously rates Redmond, he’s aware of how good he can be. I’m sure he does the same thing with his own players constantly.
The flip side to Pep is how he spoke to Harry Arter last season. Admittedly there was a duality to his conversation but he praised Arter for his positivity. Bournemouth always play an open game and that is what impresses Pep.
Managers are always interacting with opposition players, Jose does it too but in his own style.
That’s not to say what he did was impressive or necessary but he obviously rates Redmond, he’s aware of how good he can be. I’m sure he does the same thing with his own players constantly.
The flip side to Pep is how he spoke to Harry Arter last season. Admittedly there was a duality to his conversation but he praised Arter for his positivity. Bournemouth always play an open game and that is what impresses Pep.
Managers are always interacting with opposition players, Jose does it too but in his own style.
He seems a bit of a snake, gets away with his behaviour because he's apparently more likable.
Put simply, if Mourinho did the same last night to Redmond he would be hounded. It is what it is, well liked people can get away with murder.
Put simply, if Mourinho did the same last night to Redmond he would be hounded. It is what it is, well liked people can get away with murder.
I can't stand the wankfest around him, People getting their cocks out for him, I'm fecking pissed off with it to be honest, If Mourinho did what he did to Redmond, There'd be uproar etc, But because it's Guardiola, No-one will say a word about it.
You got it wrong. People don't worship Pep or anything. If he played ugly football no one would give a rat's ass about him. But he doesn't. He plays the most good looking football in the world, and that's why people watch and support that. Has nothing to do with a '****', it's perfectly rational to be drawn by good football. Everything else is secondary, exactly because most football fans don't really care about Pep as a person, but about the brand of football he plays.
I mean, who gives a shit if a manager - any manager - just goes outside of his area to celebrate a last minute goal? It's just pointless talking, more like football gossip. Trying to construct big news out of mundane football happenings.
A **** following would be if he'd play shit football and people would be oddly crazy about him. Not really the case, is it?
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It would be interesting to hear Redmond's side on that exchange yesterday. Everybody just going by the looks of it, without an idea of what was being said.
Large parts of his style of football are fantastic. Equally during his Barcelona days some of the behaviour was repulsive to many fans and others while acknowledging it, were not fans of tiki taka. His intended style at city is probably better to watch in my opinion.
You can say you like his style, and many would uderstand that, but you can't say he plays the best looking in the world as if it's fact, it's not fact it's opinion
I think you're using big words like 'repulsive' way too easily. Nothing Pep ever did for example is worse that what Mourinho did to Vilanova while on the bench for Madrid, physically poking his eye. If we're talking about character and behaviour, United fans should just accept that their manager is more of a thug and a jerk than Guardiola.
Going for the character of Pep is pretty hypocritical when your team is managed by Mourinho.