Yep, not to mention City's equaliser came from a dive which I hope will be punished during the week.
Premier League Gameweek 15 (2nd - 3rd December 2017)
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This. The irony of United fans spouting the same bollocks opposition fans used to say about us (until after Sir Alex’s final season) is hilarious.
City - much to my fecking disgust - have got a quality squad that’s got the wind in their sails. Won’t last for ever and hopefully we’re the ones to finally smash them.
So, what can I turn my frustration too now. No more good games till Tuesday.
Against the worst team in the league arguably.
I don't know how anyone can have watched City in the last week and thought "Yeah they'll go unbeaten".
Performances don't matter a lot this time of the season, Chelsea were able to string a similar run last season with Costa netting in a lot of 1-0 and in the end that gap was enough. This is very crucial part of the season and we need them to drop a lot of points but they are scraping through all of them.
Pogba is gonna miss the derby as well.
They have been very lucky these previous games and anyone who denies this is either a City fan or Pep fanboy. If we were winning like this our fans will be saying we're waiting to be found out.
Next game is immense. It's up to us to stop them then.
Next game is immense. It's up to us to stop them then.
Too fecking late!
There seems to be quite a lot of pressure on City though, looking at how manically the late wins are celebrated. It's only just December. They just aren't dropping points, let's hope they do next week.
It's on us to stop them becoming a dynasty.
Yep. I just peeked in here to check how the game was going and it's like fecking RAWK. The bitterness is unreal - I bet City fans are pissing themselves reading the drivel in here.
Yeah figured as much. Anyway, as the cliche goes..."You want to play against the best."
Regardless of the performance, watching West Ham in that second half, it makes sense why they are relegation candidates.
When has he ever done that? The closest thing would be the treble season at inter, when he lost the h2h in rome and were overtaken at the top...for 2 weeks
Everytime I watch them they struggle in some way.
It looked a dive but the goal was not linked to that action
Because if you can win whilst being utterly crap then it's a valuable skill and shows you can grind out results when you need to?
Add those crap performances where they win to the great performances where they win by a lot and you get an image of a side that can go unbeaten?
Not hard is it?
I don't think they will go unbeaten but I don't think they'll lose very many and there'll be more games like this where they're shite and still win.
I'm curious to find out how a team that creates 3 or 4 times more goal scoring chances than their opponent can be considered lucky to score 1 more goal than said opponent.
If anything, West Ham were lucky their goalkeeper had a great day, or this, based on the 2nd half alone could have been a 4-1 win easily.
Fan bias aside, City are atm the best team in the world based both on results and level of play.
If anything, West Ham were lucky their goalkeeper had a great day, or this, based on the 2nd half alone could have been a 4-1 win easily.
Fan bias aside, City are atm the best team in the world based both on results and level of play.
I would say in the Universe.
Only a little. To be fair United should be taking some confidence from that fact we seem to struggle against sides who are turning up well organised, are effective on the counter, and have the height to damage from set pieces. The game is ready made for this United team.
I’m just hoping Mourinho buys in to the pressure of having to go for the win and pushing this United team to be more open and expansive like yesterday because that’ll play in to City hands. He’s usually spot on in these kind of games though.
it's the sheer amount of players that can win them games that makes wins like this look sustainable
Not directly, and it was a dive. West Ham should've had possession, instead Dean gave the impetus to City by awarding them a FK. The scored from the outcome of that.
But whatever makes your rose-tinted specs view of Pep and his boys rosier, fair enough.
Based on any scientific data available to us, yea, you could say that as well.
City will win the league quite comfortably and rightly so if their results keep going the way they have been.
I don't know why people lose their heads over it - just enjoy the ride and see what happens.
We badly need to finish 2nd as that's huge progress from 6th last season. We need a trophy too.
I don't know why people lose their heads over it - just enjoy the ride and see what happens.
We badly need to finish 2nd as that's huge progress from 6th last season. We need a trophy too.
The question here is why this is applicable for City only but when we win while being crap we always expect our team to get found out sooner or later ?
I think City are getting very tired after such high intensity for months, getting tired too early too. If we can beat them I can see them losing some serious points during Christmas.
Barca fans.
gotta love them.Despite another three points, I am really encouraged by how this lot are playing. We can beat them without Pogba, no doubt about it. Have Jesse pick up De Bruyne when he drops deep & make the most of our set pieces and we can really hurt them.
Winning while playing badly is not a skill, its just having better players than the other team. All the times united won while playing badly wasn't a title winning mentality, it was the gap between the quality of players showing. Title winning teams win while playing badly because they almost always have the better players than most of the teams in the league.
You can be as condescending as you want but it doesn't make you right.
You can easily make an argument that says City have played poorly in the last week even when faced with relatively easy fixtures. Therefore when they play better opponents, ie teams that aren't completely knackered after an hour, they'll continue to struggle and the increased quality will punish them.
That's also not hard to see is it now?
Only 2 points lost is incredible, they've been good but not that good. That expected goals table has them slightly overachieving in terms of points, and I think that's about right. But it also has United overachieving even more, and that's also spot on I'd say.
They've been very good and even in games where they looked poor and tired they still won. My only consolation is they're not scoring as much as before and they're scrapping up wins. So the hope is they'll get into a run of poor results pretty soon. Two games with a defeat or a draw is more than enough to revive the title race.
Precisely, and that's the reason why City will almost certainly win the title: they have the greatest concentration of great players in the PL
Reminds me a bit of 2008-09 where United pulled out a few late wins and plenty of one-goal wins despite not always looking great. United defense and keeping was much better than City's current comparables, yet City's attack is much better in comparison.
They wont win it next year that is for sure. Have seen the last three matches now and they are blessed with luck.
All of the saves Adrian made were ones you expect a competent goalkeeper to make.
Really? Then why was the NBC commentator (a very high quality broadcast btw) saying that West Ham's keeper was challenging De Gea vs Arsenal in terms of the best goalkeeping performance this round? It was a great performance. A normal performance instead of a great one and City score 4 goals considering the amount of chances they created. 95% of the 2nd half looked like a training attack vs defense drill.
It was nothing like the level of DDG performance, don't think he made any saves that a competent keeper wouldn't have
Multiverse? Even though I hear City is quite good on Earth 19
Well he must be smoking something. City had a few long range strikes and they were fairly standard for a goalkeeper to deal with.
Did you actually watch the game then? Strange you relying on a NBC reporter or you just love wumming.
He may have hiperbolized it for sure, but it was a great game from West Ham's goalie.What?!
Maybe because he’s a moron.