Utd concerned that Jose will resign in May

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Can only repeat myself, but if he isn't 100 percent happy or focused on United anymore, it's for the better. We all know what can happen when Jose has his meltdowns and what damage it can do. So if it's over after that season, thanks for the 2 years and we will move on.
 

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Well many of the January ones. The others, none, but only because of earlier failures. If we had got one big window right we might not have needed any significant change in another. It also helps if you have young players coming through of course and we have not had great recent success there, though in my opinion some of our young players deserve more chances. Buying players (squad investment) is not always the answer.
So there were January windows, since Fergie retired, where we literally couldn't have been any better...?

You see my point. I'm not trying to be a dick, genuinely, but I don't think it's true.

I don't think there's been a single window since SAF that we were, or would've been better off not signing anyone.

I think there's been a number of windows where we've signed the wrong players, but that's a different story.
 

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So there were January windows, since Fergie retired, where we literally couldn't have been any better...?

You see my point. I'm not trying to be a dick, genuinely, but I don't think it's true.

I don't think there's been a single window since SAF that we were, or would've been better off not signing anyone.

I think there's been a number of windows where we've signed the wrong players, but that's a different story.
My point was simply that the managers have been backed with enough money to make the needed signings. Absolutely right that we have not used that money effectively. Partly some bad decisions, partly just shows how hard it is to bring in elite players.

The second point is that throwing money around is not always the answer. There are other ways to improve.
 

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Don't tell me this is another of those attempts to give Giggs the manager's position at United? I can tell you we will be screaming bring back Moyes in no time if Giggs get it.
 

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My point was simply that the managers have been backed with enough money to make the needed signings. Absolutely right that we have not used that money effectively. Partly some bad decisions, partly just shows how hard it is to bring in elite players.

The second point is that throwing money around is not always the answer. There are other ways to improve.
Yeah, fair point.

I think Woodward, while meaning well, hasn't always been the best negotiator in the Football world. Not that I'm saying he's penny pinching (yet), but he tends to allow transfers to drag on and there've been some odd signings (and contracts) in his time overseeing the club.
 

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Can only repeat myself, but if he isn't 100 percent happy or focused on United anymore, it's for the better. We all know what can happen when Jose has his meltdowns and what damage it can do. So if it's over after that season, thanks for the 2 years and we will move on.
But he's just come out saying that he is.

What more can he say to satisfy the mob baying for blood?

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Most important quote:

"I see myself here (after three years), is just a question of the club, the board the owners, Mr Woodward, they are all happy with my contribution and they want me to stay beyond the end of this contract."
 

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Is the panic over now.

Some of us did tell you from the off... Contract talks are on the go. This is how they go in today's social media world. Get everyone involved create a storm in a teacup, make it be the unlikely ultimate storm, kick up enough dust to muddy the water so nobody knows what's true or not, all to focus the minds of the board and that was its sole purpose.

If it was not already on the agenda for discussion I'd bet it was this morning at least until the dust settled.

Can we please close this nothing thread now?
 

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Contract talks are obviously ongoing. But it should only be signed once we have been guaranteed top four. That is the minimal requirement from Jose this season. It’s not a lot.
 

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I'm starting to get sick and tired of the Jose Mourinho show.

If he want's to go, sort it out now and let him leave with a payout in May. During the next five months chase suitable management targets.
He's just come out saying he wants to stay at least until the end of his contract and mentioning that it will be the club that will decide on his future thereafter.

I'm tired of pointless whiners like this with a very visible agenda.
 

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Pleased with his comments about commitment today.

Disagree at least partly about his comments about passion and how he acts on the side of the pitch as I think you can influence players during a match. It's not about convincing the media or fans that you have passion, it's about the game. As an absolutely prime example the poor game management in the Leicester match is at least partly his fault. He apparently gave Young instructions, but I didn't see him absolutely screaming at the players to sort it out, which is what he should have been doing. He watched them throw away 2 points.
 

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Most important quote:

"I see myself here (after three years), is just a question of the club, the board the owners, Mr Woodward, they are all happy with my contribution and they want me to stay beyond the end of this contract."
He has mentioned a number of times how he wants to stay here. And stay for a long time. This is the kind of club that can afford him that privillege. And I'm sure he knows it.

Look at the age profile of most his signings too. Those are not the sort of signings someone makes when seeking the first opportunity to leave.

The man has a huge ego too. He will want to be the man to get this club back on its perch. Mourinho will not want to leave before he can achieve that.

The PSG rumours are also nonsense of you consider the comments Mourinho has consistently made about one team leagues. Including the French one.

I do think that after his last disaster at Chelsea, he is determined to prove a point. Mourinho only ever walks away from clubs when he's achieved the maximum..see Porto and Inter.
 

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On one of the Sky Sunday Supplement episodes. I think someone posted the clip.
He said it on Sunday Supplement a few weeks ago.

Martin is the most culpable for anti-Mourinho rhetoric. He makes no secret of the fact he dislikes the guy, nor does he have a great deal of positivity towards United. He can no longer write or speak objectively when it comes to Mourinho or the club, so his opinion should be largely ignored. In part because he's lodged himself up Pep's backside.
Ahhh Sunday Supplement, that's why I haven't heard it.

Their anti-United agenda over OJ & croissants is jarring to say the least.
 

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Pleased with his comments about commitment today.

Disagree at least partly about his comments about passion and how he acts on the side of the pitch as I think you can influence players during a match. It's not about convincing the media or fans that you have passion, it's about the game. As an absolutely prime example the poor game management in the Leicester match is at least partly his fault. He apparently gave Young instructions, but I didn't see him absolutely screaming at the players to sort it out, which is what he should have been doing. He watched them throw away 2 points.
Those were just digs at certain managers. Nothing more than that.

He's done that plenty of times before. A lot of managers do. You over analysing stuff.
 

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Matt Lawton is a Chelsea fan - and no-one is more desperate to see Jose fail than the Blue Brigade.

It would vindicate their decision to fire a legendary manager (although they had little option) and enhance their theory that Mourinho was a busted flush anyway.

Failure at United woud bring closure to that narrative.
He's a Liverpool fan. Although they'd probably be happy to see him leave, too.
 

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He said it on Sunday Supplement a few weeks ago.

Martin is the most culpable for anti-Mourinho rhetoric. He makes no secret of the fact he dislikes the guy, nor does he have a great deal of positivity towards United. He can no longer write or speak objectively when it comes to Mourinho or the club, so his opinion should be largely ignored. In part because he's lodged himself up Pep's backside.
Samuel has been pro City long before Pep though.

Think he worked in Manchester for a bit and that explains it. One of the biggest cheerleaders for the Oil Sheiks in the English media.

Good journalist though even with his bias .
 

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Can only repeat myself, but if he isn't 100 percent happy or focused on United anymore, it's for the better. We all know what can happen when Jose has his meltdowns and what damage it can do. So if it's over after that season, thanks for the 2 years and we will move on.
Did you hear the quotes from the press conference maybe?
 

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Changing the manager every 2 years will not get us back where we belong. It will just make us having to spend even more or be happy with top 4 every year.
I think some of the younger fans don't quite understand this. They just want to see a new toy every few month. 2 years must seem like an eternity.
 

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Samuel has been pro City long before Pep though.

Think he worked in Manchester for a bit and that explains it. One of the biggest cheerleaders for the Oil Sheiks in the English media.

Good journalist though even with his bias .
True. Though his Pep fawning has become very tiring, very quickly.

I ignore most of what he says now regarding United.

Generally, I find journalists pledging allegiance to one manager odd to say the least - they do it to curry favour in the hope of getting the inside track but often can't see (or don't care) how that comes across.

It's one thing to admire a manager or his team, it's another to lose all sense of objectivity.
 

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Its kinda funny how "What you expect him to say?..." line is applied only when it fits to people.
 

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He's a Liverpool fan. Although they'd probably be happy to see him leave, too.
You might be right, but I'm still dead certain he's a Chelsea fan. I've heard him many times talk about the club intimately; Roman, Jose etc...but no big deal... Jose stays!
 

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He's just come out saying he wants to stay at least until the end of his contract and mentioning that it will be the club that will decide on his future thereafter.

I'm tired of pointless whiners like this with a very visible agenda.
My post was made pre-press conference.

The Mourinho show does annoy me, it annoys a lot of people. I gave my opinion on the matter, no agenda, just an opinion based on today's rumour.

And I will stand by it as well, if he wants out, then he should be assisted on his way and we should be looking for a replacement. If he doesn't want to leave, then fair enough continue to improve the team.
 

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True. Though his Pep fawning has become very tiring, very quickly.

I ignore most of what he says now regarding United.

Generally, I find journalists pledging allegiance to one manager odd to say the least - they do it to curry favour in the hope of getting the inside track but often can't see (or don't care) how that comes across.

It's one thing to admire a manager or his team, it's another to lose all sense of objectivity.
A senior journalist like him should be at least be objective or pretend to be.

But his love for West Ham (he's admitted to that one) and City shines through.

But you are right. Better to just ignore the media.
 

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My post was made pre-press conference.

The Mourinho show does annoy me, it annoys a lot of people. I gave my opinion on the matter, no agenda, just an opinion based on today's rumour.

And I will stand by it as well, if he wants out, then he should be assisted on his way
and we should be looking for a replacement. If he doesn't want to leave, then fair enough continue to improve the team.
But he doesn't.

Why slam him based on a mistaken assumption?

Jose has many faults. Slam him based on those instead.
 

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Oh. No. Please. Don't. Go. Jose.

Oh.Yes. Please do go Jose
Yeah and then start another 3 year rebuilding cycle, exactly what we need...

It's not complex. We desperately need a 7-8 year manager with a 10-15 year plan to have consistency between one manager and another. These managers must be committed to good quality positive and creative football the likes of which are being developed and honed by our rivals at home and abroad.

Mourinho ticks neither of these boxes. 3 years of hoofball and we will be back where we started. Mourinho's style of play will not be copied or continued by another manager here so what's the point. Rebuilding is inevitable because we just won't be able to compete with the best in Europe by playing hoofball in big games against the top teams.

Every minute he spends here is wasted time. Meanwhile , Juve , Bayern , City , Real , Barca , PSG etc etc are training their players/teams to pass the ball quickly , make runs , be creative , be positive , beat a man , do 1-2s , step overs, triangles , be brave on the ball , press the opposition , counter attack intelligently etc etc.

When Mourinho has a big game he is not interested in doing these things. We just play pathetic , park the bus hoofball. And hoofball won't get us anywhere beyond minor cups and top 4.

Meanwhile the rest of Europe's big clubs move on..........please go Jose and make way for a manager who will prepare us to compete in big games.
 
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Oh.Yes. Please do go Jose



It's not complex. We desperately need a 7-8 year manager with a 10-15 year plan to have consistency between one manager and another. These managers must be committed to good quality positive and creative football the likes of which are being developed and honed by our rivals at home and abroad.

Mourinho ticks neither of these boxes. 3 years of hoofball and we will be back where we started. Mourinho's style of play will not be copied or continued by another manager here so what's the point. Rebuilding is inevitable because we just won't be able to compete with the best in Europe by playing hoofball in big games against the top teams.

Every minute he spends here is wasted time. Meanwhile , Juve , Bayern , City , Real , Barca , PSG etc etc are training their players/teams to pass the ball quickly , make runs , be creative , be positive , beat a man , do 1-2s , step overs, triangles , be brave on the ball , press the opposition , counter attack intelligently etc etc.

When Mourinho has a big game he is not interested in doing these things. We just play pathetic , park the bus hoofball. And hoofball won't get us anywhere beyond minor cups and top 4.

Meanwhile the rest of Europe's big clubs move on..........please go Jose and make way for a manager who will prepare us to compete in big games.
:lol: What the feck did I just read... :wenger::lol:
 

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Oh.Yes. Please do go Jose



It's not complex. We desperately need a 7-8 year manager with a 10-15 year plan to have consistency between one manager and another. These managers must be committed to good quality positive and creative football the likes of which are being developed and honed by our rivals at home and abroad.

Mourinho ticks neither of these boxes. 3 years of hoofball and we will be back where we started. Mourinho's style of play will not be copied or continued by another manager here so what's the point. Rebuilding is inevitable because we just won't be able to compete with the best in Europe by playing hoofball in big games against the top teams.

Every minute he spends here is wasted time. Meanwhile , Juve , Bayern , City , Real , Barca , PSG etc etc are training their players/teams to pass the ball quickly , make runs , be creative , be positive , beat a man , do 1-2s , step overs, triangles , be brave on the ball , press the opposition , counter attack intelligently etc etc.

When Mourinho has a big game he is not interested in doing these things. We just play pathetic , park the bus hoofball. And hoofball won't get us anywhere beyond minor cups and top 4.

Meanwhile the rest of Europe's big clubs move on..........please go Jose and make way for a manager who will prepare us to compete in big games.
While I kind of agree with some of what you say about the attacking in particular, there is no one else currently I’d trust to handle the job. If Poch would win some trophies I think we may look to go down that route but until then it’s clear Jose is improving us in terms of results, even if I don’t really agree or like the style too much. There is also no such thing as a 7-8 year manager anymore.
 

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The truth.
Yeah right. We have lots of keyboard warriors over here who knows everything and basically deluded themselves that they would be happy with no trophies only if we play attacking football. It's not gonna happen and we all know it. If we sack Jose and hire some joke managers like Tuchel or Sarri like many of you suggest, the moment we don't win even playing attacking football, you are going to be the first to want him gone as well. That's how it is. You really underestimate the mess Jose inherited from Moyes and LVG. Our squad was probably the most unbalanced in the league and full of mediocre overpriced players stealing a living. Everton tried to fix all their problems splashing money, it worked great, didn't it? It's not so easy as you think, stop playing FM, FIFA or whatever and just think for a second.
 

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How is this thread not locked?
The subject matter has been proven bullshit but even that was lost amist the agendas around 8 pages ago.
 

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I've not opened the article but I can smell the bullshit clickbait a mile off.
Yeah right. We have lots of keyboard warriors over here who knows everything and basically deluded themselves that they would be happy with no trophies only if we play attacking football. It's not gonna happen and we all know it. If we sack Jose and hire some joke managers like Tuchel or Sarri like many of you suggest, the moment we don't win even playing attacking football, you are going to be the first to want him gone as well. That's how it is. You really underestimate the mess Jose inherited from Moyes and LVG. Our squad was probably the most unbalanced in the league and full of mediocre overpriced players stealing a living. Everton tried to fix all their problems splashing money, it worked great, didn't it? It's not so easy as you think, stop playing FM, FIFA or whatever and just think for a second.
OK mate
 

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I just remember Lawton being reliable and not click bait as far as I've followed football since the social media boom. It's up to yourself I suppose whether you think it's true or not. But I tend to pay attention when he puts his name on a story.
He may be reliable on some things but i would take anything he says here with a bag of salt. He one of those journalists that has his head firmly up David Moyes hole, which makes it hilarious when he basically questions Mourinho's professionalism and work ethic here.

He said this about Moyes a few months back, fecking Moyes! Of course in the same article he proceeds to blame loads of people and circumstances on his failure. This alone makes me lean towards everything else Matt Lawton writes or says probably being a load of shite.

When given the opportunity to blame anyone but himself for a campaign that ended in such bitter disappointment, there is a decency about Moyes that stops him.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...d-Moyes-Antonio-Conte-kept-Sunderland-up.html
 
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