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Lee O'Connor should be in the senior side by then.
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O' Connor with United academy is a very good player already.How's the squad looking for Euro 2020 then?
Goalkeepers: Randolph , Westwood, Elliot, Doyle
Defenders: Coleman, Christie, Doherty, McShane, Keogh, Duffy, Clark, K. Long, Ward, Egan, Cunningham, Boyle, Rice
Midfielders: Horgan, Browne, Hourihane, Arter, McCarthy, Brady, Hendrick, O'Kane, Meyler, O'Dowda, Hayes, McClean, Judge, Manning
Forwards: S. Long, Maguire, Hogan, O'Brien
Is there anyone else coming through the ranks? Or out injured that I've just missed?
Would like to see something like this, perhaps, come next September.
Randolph
Coleman
Duffy
Rice
Christie
McClean
McCarthy
Brady
Hendrick
O'Dowda
Hogan
Despite presently having a run in the premier league I would gladly never see ward play again, and that is not just in response to last night. Inspires absolute panicHow's the squad looking for Euro 2020 then?
Goalkeepers: Randolph , Westwood, Elliot, Doyle
Defenders: Coleman, Christie, Doherty, McShane, Keogh, Duffy, Clark, K. Long, Ward, Egan, Cunningham, Boyle, Rice, O'Connor
Midfielders: Horgan, Browne, Hourihane, Arter, McCarthy, Brady, Hendrick, O'Kane, Meyler, O'Dowda, Hayes, McClean, Judge, Manning
Forwards: S. Long, Maguire, Hogan, O'Brien
Is there anyone else coming through the ranks? Or out injured that I've just missed?
Would like to see something like this, perhaps, come next September.
Randolph
Coleman
Duffy
Rice
Christie
McClean
McCarthy
Brady
Hendrick
O'Dowda
Hogan
We don't have qualifiers until 2019 (March I think) due to the weird Nations League tournament starting in September. Hopefully some of the younger players will be ready by then although it's a bit hopeful and speculative to be including the likes of O'Connor at this stage.Will O'Connor be good enough to play by next September? Have heard good things but haven't seen him play yet.
Ah, didn't know Ends had made his way up there. He was so good for Rovers a few years ago. Was disappointed he didn't push on when he moved over. Good for him.Enda Stevens at Sheff Utd has been doing alright hasn’t he? Could be an option for that dire defence.
Do I think we should be doing better than making Georgia look like Spain with technical geniuses or to be dominated by a midfield pairing of Mulgrew and Scott Brown? Then yes I can honestly say I expect much better.Anybody spouting on about how many premier league players we have needs to have a serious look at the type of premier league player we have , and try make a team they can say with all honesty should be doing better than we are.
He's class but wouldn't say by next September, we haven't even promoted him to the u23s because for some reason we're leaving him and Angel and others in the u18s for now. If he was at a Championship club I'd imagine he'd be getting some appearances and breaking through right now. His best position is RB though, will have to try make his breakthrough on the left with Coleman on the right.Will O'Connor be good enough to play by next September? Have heard good things but haven't seen him play yet.
That's a dire list of players.How's the squad looking for Euro 2020 then?
Goalkeepers: Randolph , Westwood, Elliot, Doyle
Defenders: Coleman, Christie, Doherty, McShane, Keogh, Duffy, Clark, K. Long, Ward, Egan, Cunningham, Boyle, Rice, O'Connor
Midfielders: Horgan, Browne, Hourihane, Arter, McCarthy, Brady, Hendrick, O'Kane, Meyler, O'Dowda, Hayes, McClean, Judge, Manning
Forwards: S. Long, Maguire, Hogan, O'Brien
Is there anyone else coming through the ranks? Or out injured that I've just missed?
Would like to see something like this, perhaps, come next September.
Randolph
Coleman
Duffy
Rice
Christie
McClean
McCarthy
Brady
Hendrick
O'Dowda
Hogan
Think he’s a regular starter in this impressive Sheffield United side, at left wing back of a back 5.Ah, didn't know Ends had made his way up there. He was so good for Rovers a few years ago. Was disappointed he didn't push on when he moved over. Good for him.
"O'Neill deserves no credit for anything we have done". @Nanotron, you entirely sure about that very big statement? I know this is an Internet forum, and all, but still. Seems like a fairly comprehensive job of work had been done by you over the duration of his tenure. You have evaluated every team selection, all the friendlies, every qualifying, any work with players, every half time talk. You ran your ruler over every substitution, match preparation. The pre job negotiations too. Picking Keano. Must have been tough for you what with all the travelling and all.
Agreed. That was some joke of a post.What???? Seriously what exactly are you saying. Are you saying o neill deserves credit for carrying out basic essential tasks that every manager is required to do?
How about the likes of Patrick McEleney getting a chance? Best ball player in Ireland at the momentHow's the squad looking for Euro 2020 then?
Goalkeepers: Randolph , Westwood, Elliot, Doyle
Defenders: Coleman, Christie, Doherty, McShane, Keogh, Duffy, Clark, K. Long, Ward, Egan, Cunningham, Boyle, Rice, O'Connor
Midfielders: Horgan, Browne, Hourihane, Arter, McCarthy, Brady, Hendrick, O'Kane, Meyler, O'Dowda, Hayes, McClean, Judge, Manning
Forwards: S. Long, Maguire, Hogan, O'Brien
Is there anyone else coming through the ranks? Or out injured that I've just missed?
Would like to see something like this, perhaps, come next September.
Randolph
Coleman
Duffy
Rice
Christie
McClean
McCarthy
Brady
Hendrick
O'Dowda
Hogan
a fella in work actually said that to me this morning. Michael O Neill of course came from league of Ireland, he was replaced by Stephen Kenny when he left, so the step up can be done. In hindsight, O'neill did well enough, qualified for Euros and 1 game away from world cup. It's just the football is dire, it really is. We had Trap then O'Neill. I'd just like to see them freshen it up.You don’t need a big name manager to do a good job, how about taking a punt on Stephen Kenny? His teams play cracking football
Kenny wouldn’t be afraid to play the young unsa fella in work actually said that to me this morning. Michael O Neill of course came from league of Ireland, he was replaced by Stephen Kenny when he left, so the step up can be done. In hindsight, O'neill did well enough, qualified for Euros and 1 game away from world cup. It's just the football is dire, it really is. We had Trap then O'Neill. I'd just like to see them freshen it up.
Kenny is the obvious choice, except he wouldn't make an FAI shortlist of 25. The twats.You don’t need a big name manager to do a good job, how about taking a punt on Stephen Kenny? His teams play cracking football
Kenny's Dundalk were better on the ball than the national side.a fella in work actually said that to me this morning. Michael O Neill of course came from league of Ireland, he was replaced by Stephen Kenny when he left, so the step up can be done. In hindsight, O'neill did well enough, qualified for Euros and 1 game away from world cup. It's just the football is dire, it really is. We had Trap then O'Neill. I'd just like to see them freshen it up.
my son's under 10 team are better on the ball, but I think your right, i don't think the FAI will even consider him, which is unfortunate.Kenny's Dundalk were better on the ball than the national side.
Good considered post. Sometimes an utter drubbing can be good for the soul. It would have been even more gutting if we went out like NI to some kind of dodgy penalty, so close, so far. Instead we do spectacular Hari Kiri.- Last night was, as someone already said, the perfect (shit)storm. Almost everything that could go wrong did. Everyone involved with the Irish side has to bear some responsibility for that, to whatever extent.
Definitely a time to take stock all round.- As some have also said, third or fourth in the group looks like it might be around par. I wouldn’t be advocating getting rid of O’Neill and Keane, necessarily, but I think they should consider their own positions
Excellent point. Easy to forget these positives after a night like Tuesday. And yes, Darren Randolph has been a revelation.- Randolph has been one of the high spots of this campaign. We now have makings of a decent spine (by our standards) with him in goal, Coleman at RB, Duffy at CB, McCarthy at base of midfield with Arter and Hendrick beyond and Brady out wide. Meyler and McClean are decent squad options and O’Dowda looks to have some potential. All of them at good ages for the next campaign.
Ah. Now for the bad news. Yeah I like Christie, but he makes too many basic defensive mistakes. There was a weird lack of discipline in the defense against Denmark, at one point even early in the game I was thinking, WTF is going on here?- We lack options at the back. Ward is a game lad but too often out of his depth. Clark has somehow managed to remain a raw, young centre half up to the age of 28. Christie has his strengths but in terms of defensive awareness, this level can be cruel on him at times. O’Shea will likely retire and the likes of Kevin Long and McShane don’t look likely to be mainstays. Declan Rice might be a player but it's far too early to be relying on him.
- We need to try something else up front
- All things considered, the results have not been bad this time around. I suspect we might have struggled even if we were trying to play freewheeling football, but there's an argument that, if you aren't going to qualify, you might as well try to establish a style of play
All of that said, O'Neill has given us quite a few good nights over the past few years. So if he does leave, it won't be like the end of Trap - for me, at least - where I genuinely felt that the guy was basically just phoning it in, without any real interest in the state of the game in Ireland. O'Neill, for whatever faults he has, has managed to give good game time to quite a few previously inexperienced players and the results haven't particularly suffered. I'm not sure he's gotten the credit he deserves for that.
There's nothing wrong with wanting a different style of football. I do think, and not you specifically, people need to be more balanced with their opinion. Hear me out.Do I think we should be doing better than making Georgia look like Spain with technical geniuses or to be dominated by a midfield pairing of Mulgrew and Scott Brown? Then yes I can honestly say I expect much better.
As a nation I think we're incredibly willing to throw international stereotypes at ourselves. I don't think a single person feels that way and every person I have spoken to since the game accepts that we got the substitutions wrong, it can happen, but nobody with a brain thinks well at least we have it a bash. It's a very lazy stereotype, perhaps based in fact depending on who you have spoken to yourself, but I literally haven't seen a case of it.It went wrong cause O’NEILL took both of our centre mids off for a past it 34 year old “number 10” and a past it winger in McGeady.
But “sure we give it a go lads”... typical shithouse Irish mentality.
Everton? The club he's had a running battle with throughout his Ireland career? At least he might be able to get James McCarthy fit!MON has been backed into favourite for the Everton job tonight, according to Twitter.
Tbh, I couldn't begrudge him taking a job like that. Make a relative success of it and he's bound to get a good PL job, even if they go another way at the end of the season.
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Really not sure what to make of it. Overall think he did a good job. Hard to begrudge him a PL job. Maybe it was time for fresh ideas. But I really hope the next man isn’t Keane. He’d be an unmitigated disaster IMHO.
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Yeah I don’t think Keane would be a good choice to go on his own.
Still think they should take a punt on Stephen Kenny, you’d get good football at least
Dunno they might be stuck at negotiating his release or maybe he’s second choice to FloresIf Stoke wanted O Neill they would have appointed him by now.
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Really not sure what to make of it. Overall think he did a good job. Hard to begrudge him a PL job. Maybe it was time for fresh ideas. But I really hope the next man isn’t Keane. He’d be an unmitigated disaster IMHO.
Did it not sound like Keane would go with him to Stoke. Agree appointing Keane with be a disaster not least because of all the media BS. Who to get if they both go? Actually you said it, how about LVG?Dont think anyone could be worse than ONeill.fans here moan at uniteds football under Van Gaal .The sheer garbage football iv watched Ireland play under ONeill makes that look like 1970 Brazil