It's because Alexis gives the ball away alot. Which is why his bottom level can genuinely be detrimental to the team. Whereas hazards lowest level just means that he is a bit invisible.
Who is better: Sanchez or Hazard
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Hazard has magic in his boots, whereas Sanchez is more of a grafter. I think we need a player like Sanchez more at the moment than Hazard but there's no doubt who's the better player.
Still thrilled with Alexis though, he's a top 5 player in this league.
Still thrilled with Alexis though, he's a top 5 player in this league.
I still think that top level Hazard is the best player in the league. He was awesome at Brighton the other day.
Don't always see his best, mind.
Don't always see his best, mind.
Hazard is better. IMO the best player in the league.
Hazard is wildly inconsistent which is one area Sanchez tops him.
Hazard is wildly inconsistent which is one area Sanchez tops him.
I was actually thinking about this. I think you could make a case against him being top 5. Not that I'd necessarily go with it, but there's an argument there. Hazard, KDB, Pogba, Silva, Aguero, Kane, Salah, De Gea, Sanchez, Eriksen, Ozil. There's some real quality in the PL right now.
Both great so put it this way... Who would you rather have if they cost the same on fantasy league... Exactly, Sanchez! Better output with more consistency.
Let me put it this way.
I am worried as feck when hazard gets the ball, even in his own half.
I am worried as feck when hazard gets the ball, even in his own half.
Hazard but it's not like we're getting a dud is it.
Hazard just nicks it for me. Both fantastic players, though.
If I had to pick one, i'd have picked Sanchez, even before our interest.
Output just seems a lot higher, or at least Hazard seems to get fouled a huge amount of the time a long way from goal.
Output just seems a lot higher, or at least Hazard seems to get fouled a huge amount of the time a long way from goal.
I think Hazard should do better. Sánchez has been better overall. Their level is about the same and basically distinctive via form and personal taste
Hazard is the one with the higher ceiling, he's got a good few years to go on and start to hit the same levels as the likes of Neymar, assuming he moves to the right club. He can at least be a major contributor to a Champions League winning side and a good shout for Ballon D'Or top 5, if not higher. I imagine that Real see him as the man to replace Ronaldo. Sanchez has got a good couple of seasons left in him where can can continue to score and assist well, and hopefully win a few things with us too, but I don't see him getting to a level any higher than he's already at.
Hazard and to me it's not close..
Sanchez. That cnut Hazard has less goals and assists than Martial since he (Martial) joined united!
He won't reach that level IMO. He's not even a goal hungry player and he said so himself. He's far from a like for like replacement for Ronaldo. A downgrade
Sanchez, he's proven it on international level.
You regard DDG as "a bit hyped"? He is easily the very best goalkeeper in the world, if thats not world class, i dont know what is?
I think Hazard would be much better than Sanchez at a top top team due to his far superior close control and dribbling, as well as not losing possession nearly as much. I would expect Hazard to take his game to another level at a club like Madrid, while Sanchez struggled and was sold at Barca when he was forced to play a peripheral role in the attack.
The gap is closer when the team is built around them but I would still rate Hazard slightly higher.
The gap is closer when the team is built around them but I would still rate Hazard slightly higher.
Sanchez by a brave bit. Hazard is excellent on form, but he is so hot and cold and spends too much time lying down to actually be as productive as he should.
Pep admitted that he didn't play Sanchez in the right position at Barcelona.
‘He played really good in Barcelona but normally when you play with [Lionel] Messi all the players behind him are not at his level,’ he said. ‘I think the position Arsenal are using him as a striker, in front, it is perfect for him. In Barcelona maybe I didn’t help him too much because he played wide. He can do that but he is better between the lines, closer to the goal.
"He can play there and in several positions - left, right. He is a fighter in spirit, he is a character, he is a winner. He is a class, class player and now he is playing really well."
http://www.skysports.com/football/n...ays-he-didnt-help-alexis-sanchez-at-barcelona
Only the first of Sanchez's three seasons at Barca came under Pep, who experimented quite a bit with different formations and positions for Alexis throughout that campaign. During the next two seasons, he was always used in probably his best position as an inside forward in the 433.
The problem for Alexis was more the role and style of play rather than position; at Barcelona, he was supposed to get the ball, control it, then pass it into Messi. That type of linkup play isn't his strength, as evidenced by the number of times he concedes possession in a match. Suarez had the same problem during his first two months at Barcelona, where he was dreadful on the right wing until he swapped positions with Messi in January.
Fair enough. Do you think Hazard would've suffered in the same way if he signed for Barca?
Always thought hazard has the potential to be a 20 G and 20 A player. Doesn't seem to have that kind of hunger though.
I feel hazard is more talented but Sanchez has fulfilled more of his talent.
I feel hazard is more talented but Sanchez has fulfilled more of his talent.
Jeez i hate thread like this. What a way to jinx your new signing.
i believe hazard to be the better player, and if I was building a side around one it would be him. However Ive always viewed Alexis as someone who adds more to a team than just a fantastic end product. He has a mentality and ethic I would prefer in my dressing room than hazard if that makes any sense.
This appears to be a very one sided view on the comparison which doesn't appreciate the qualities of both players and especially the things Sanchez is better at.
Yes, we all know that Hazard is the better playmaker and more precise with his dribbling and passing in the buildup. But surely another one of the 'big differences' between them is that Sanchez is far more decisive and impactful in the final third and physically more imposing? He's stronger, has a lethal shot, finishes well and gets more assists. It's not everything but doesn't find a mention in your post.
I agree that not everything should be defined by the entire goals and assists statistic but it cant be discarded entirely either.
And the point about their respective mentalities is a valid one. Hazard isn't nearly as bad mentally as made out to be but Alexis has him beat in this regard. Leaving your heart out on the pitch is a quality to be praised. Having one or the worst seasons an elite footballer has ever had definitely isn't.
I think Hazard will be remembered and rated higher because he's got more left in the tank, will achieve more and has a higher ceiling/potential. But Sanchez has matched him or even out performed him so far.
Probably not because Hazard's style of play is much better suited to being part of a supporting cast than Alexis'. The fact that Hazard's form blows hot and cold would also be more "acceptable" at a club where people aren't looking at him to win every game for them. Where as with Alexis, he was barely performing around the same level as Pedro at Barcelona, yet the gulf between what them when given more responsibility in the premier league is enormous.
For Barcelona, Real, PSG: Hazard >>> Alexis
For everyone else: Fairly even but probably just Hazard
Thats a great assessment of both of their qualities.
Maybe at an international level, but since Hazard first established himself in 2010, the only season Alexis has been a better player at club level is 15/16 and Alexis was fairly poor for most of that campaign as well.
I wouldn't begrudge anyone who voted Sanchez over Hazard but saying how can anyone justify saying the opposite is absurd. Your comparing them strictly on the statistics of their respective positions. Sanchez is undoubtedly the better goal scorer which is why it's a close debate but just doing the eye test I think most people would say Hazard has more ways of penetrating a defence. Sanchez is also elite at many of the things Hazard is great at and is more likely perhaps to give you a 8/10 but Hazard hits a level slightly above him when he's on top form.
That's a perfect assessment of both players. Nothing more needs to be said.
This is it, isn't it! Hazard is a magician with the ball at his feet. Always capable of the sublime. Sanchez is brilliant as well but if I had to pick one purely based on abilities, it will be Hazard.
However the passion and drive which Sanchez has is so much more important to us now that Sanchez for me is the better fit at this moment. If we had Rooney, Ronaldo, Tevez at their peaks with us, then Hazard would be the obvious choice but currently it's Sanchez without a doubt.
You really don't rate Hazard then, since he's more consistent and more productive than Hazard?
In my mind, they're about equal with different strengths, but find it baffling when people put consistency & productivity as things to beat competitors of Hazard with.
This thread is a credit to redcafe imo. Imagine if this was on Rawk as a poll between Salah and hazard or bluemoon as a poll between KDB and Hazard.
And then we have few City fans and ManUtd fans moaning about how this thread wouldn't have existed if we didn't sign Sanchez. Not sure what they read on redcafe as opposition players are rated highly here.
I really think you're overrating your man here, there's no sure way of knowing how he'd perform for those clubs. Also, Hazard wouldn't come cheap, so the expectations would still be very high even at club like Barcelona, even worse at Real if he was to replace Ronaldo or Benzema.
Hazard has 83 goals for Chelsea in 279 apps compared to Sanchez's 80 in 165 for Arsenal. Hazard was only better than Sanchez in 09/10, 11/12 and 12/13. Hazard is very pleasing to the eye in football terms, but his productivity simply doesn't match the hype. His not even an assist machine
Why is something like that never even mentioned by the media as a possible explanation why Sanchez didn't fancy 100% fancy playing for Pep ? In the end City didn't cough up the money and that is why he didn't join them, I just mean that I find weird how it is assumed he would have loved to play under Pep with certainty.
Indeed. The media made it seem like it was a foregone conclusion that he'd sign with City.
i said he's a good footballer, i rate him. i just think sanchez is better.
I find hazard hit and miss.
Fantastic player but not a great. Some might say the same applies to Sanchez but I think his output in more consistent and he delivers when it really matters.
Fantastic player but not a great. Some might say the same applies to Sanchez but I think his output in more consistent and he delivers when it really matters.