He kinda got lucky that he became a manager more or less at the same time some unique talents were emerging or emerged from Barca system
Pep's spending is insane (£941m and counting at City)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
It must be so discouraging for the kids in the best academy in the league.
Not sure if serious? While Barcelona ain't spending like Madrid, they put up big sum overall under him and the core of great players they had, meant they didn't have to go out and buy them. Those would cost fortune to acquire. Bayern can pick off good player at good price doesn't mean they don't have resource. Also they had strong core before he took over so they need not to spend as much. And Bayern being proud of German players so he would be asked questions sidelining German internationals.
I and few others already predicted before Pep even led a game for a City that City was his dream project since there is no burden of history so he can implement his own ideas without any form of oppose. The fan ain't attached to the players so he can bench, drop, buy new players to replace, whatever the way he sees fit.
He didn't win anything last season, and he cited quality/reseource in his disposal was not good enough. Had Barcelona and Bayern were not as strong as they are, there is question regarding whether Pep can be as success.
Oil be surprised if he stops there
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guardiOILa, right got my coat I'm off.
Oi(l), that's crazy.
Did I win?
Did I win?
He was lucky and those players were/are so talented I am not sure how much coaching they actually needed. Do you coach a Messi?
Messi coaches you.
Pep isn't a cheque book manager, they said.
Pep develops kids into world class players, they said.
Pep develops kids into world class players, they said.
He should have at least saved those comments till after the window closed, even his defenders have had a harder time defending him so blindly now that they're throwing huge sums of money at another problem.
Barca are the only team who have spent close to 300m on 2 players, he's taking a swipe at them.
PSG haven't actually paid for Mbappe yet.
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Peppal?
I am sure he deserves some credit but I am also sure he was given the job at the perfect moment
Absolutely insane the amount of money he has spent at Man City alone. I'm sure he's spent a lot at Bayern as well. But at the same time, I am really not sure what another manager would do in his position with all the resources he has. Would Klopp or Mourinho have spent half a billion in 19 months as well ? I really don't know. But if he does go on and wins the quadruple or even half of that this season, it won't matter to the press. All will hail him. It's the job of other Managers to introduce this supposedly foreign concept into the thick skulls of the journalists.
Jesus wept. No wonder they're running away with the league.
Of course it is. He walked into a team with Barcelona's class of 92 so to speak. Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, Busquets, Pique*, Puyol, Pedro & Valdes. They were already made players, he surely can't be given credit for playing them week in week out
.*think he resigned Pique from United. Still a youth academy player though.
Right, let's get some figures going.
At Barca he spent:
08/09: 96M
09/10: 113.5M
10/11: 72.5M
11/12: 60M
At Bayern:
13/14: 62M
14/15: 53.4M
15/16: 89M
At City:
16/17: 218.59M
17/18: 324.09M (392.51M if Mahrez signs for 60M)
Total spent so far is: 1.089B and if Mahrez signs it will be 1.157B. That works out to him spending 128.6M a year!
At Barca he spent:
08/09: 96M
09/10: 113.5M
10/11: 72.5M
11/12: 60M
At Bayern:
13/14: 62M
14/15: 53.4M
15/16: 89M
At City:
16/17: 218.59M
17/18: 324.09M (392.51M if Mahrez signs for 60M)
Total spent so far is: 1.089B and if Mahrez signs it will be 1.157B. That works out to him spending 128.6M a year!
So, Pep ends up fighting against modern football at City.
If they buy mahrez it will be 600mil euros in 18 months for guardiola. 600 mil euros!!!
But but, they don't buy 100mil players. So it is normal then. Bloody hell, what a fraud.
But but, they don't buy 100mil players. So it is normal then. Bloody hell, what a fraud.
That has never been true, it was just something that City came up with to make themselves feel better about the Sanchez transfer. They have the most expensive back line in football. They've spent over a billion since the owners took over. They threw money at average players to build their teams at first, they just threw money everywhere. Now they're still spending obscene amounts of money. Meanwhile we went years refusing to spend money on anyone that we needed under SAF before he retired and now recently we're actually buying players again. Just because we beat them to a player, they're trying to pretend that we're the money option and they're all about morals. It's really pathetic. It's okay to just hold your hands up and say fair play, he chose you over us. Doesn't need any bitter bullshit to justify it in your head.
Those Barcelona figure are crazy considering in their most successful period in history, 7 of the start 11 were from the academy. (Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets, Pedro, Messi, Puyol, Vladez). Alvez and Pique weren't too expensive either and they held their starting positions for the entire period.
It's easy to give young player chances when you have the likes of Bojan, Busquets, Pedro and Thiago coming through, in addition having already established world-class young players like Iniesta and Messi at your disposal.
e: just so we're clear, I'm agreeing with you, just adding to your point as well.
I'm not sure it is real. Why come out with that comment and then splash 62m on Zlatan the following summer?Of course it is. He walked into a team with Barcelona's class of 92 so to speak. Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, Busquets, Pique*, Puyol, Pedro & Valdes. They were already made players, he surely can't be given credit for playing them week in week out
*think he resigned Pique from United. Still a youth academy player though.
Because he's a double standard, self observed, bald lunatic.
Just because someone has put a quote next to a picture, doesn't make that quote real no matter how much we all would love it to. A quote like that would surely be covered in an article somewhere?
F*cking hate the pundits in the UK. Sane has an injury so Pep's answer is to flunk 50m to get a replacement. Media spin it as "he is going for 4 trophies'
Utd get Sanchez in a straight swap and get bashed daily for it
Utd get Sanchez in a straight swap and get bashed daily for it
Tbf, I doubt it also. Never saw it before, sure someone would stick it up considering how much he spent in his career.
@VanGaalEra , thanks for the breakdown. Are those Euros or Pounds btw ?
Either way, I thought his spend at Bayern would be higher, but crazy to see him spend that much at Barcelona as well.
Either way, I thought his spend at Bayern would be higher, but crazy to see him spend that much at Barcelona as well.
Lost to Liverpool 3-4 so lets sign another defender.
Lost Sane for 6 weeks, so lets sign another winger.
All hail Pep Saint of Football.
Lost Sane for 6 weeks, so lets sign another winger.
All hail Pep Saint of Football.
He didn't spend any thing, it's just him being scammy towards the investors ala pyramid scheme.
What happened in each of the meetings with his scammy proposals to the owner, I'd like to know.
"Hello Sheikh, I'm Pep, I won so many stuff with my own knowledge you can't find anywhere else. But here's the twist, this knowledge, you can buy. Just pay me with cut price of 50m you will get my 1st video of how to be succesfull"
What happened in each of the meetings with his scammy proposals to the owner, I'd like to know
."Hello Sheikh, I'm Pep, I won so many stuff with my own knowledge you can't find anywhere else. But here's the twist, this knowledge, you can buy. Just pay me with cut price of 50m you will get my 1st video of how to be succesfull"
Must be thinking he may as well spend like crazy while he's on top. Win a couple of leagues and walk away with his reputation in-tact before Jose gets him again.
Will probably walk into PSG at some stage and win more legaues. Has there ever been another manager in history who's gone from top club to top club without taking on a real challenge?
Will probably walk into PSG at some stage and win more legaues. Has there ever been another manager in history who's gone from top club to top club without taking on a real challenge?
So I presume you're also giving Ferguson no credit for his work with 'the class of 92'? He deserves no credit for his role in integrating them into the team and developing them as players, putting faith in them?Of course it is. He walked into a team with Barcelona's class of 92 so to speak. Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, Busquets, Pique*, Puyol, Pedro & Valdes. They were already made players, he surely can't be given credit for playing them week in week out
*think he resigned Pique from United. Still a youth academy player though.
For one, you have to consider he was letting players like Ronaldinho, Deco and Yaya Toure leave/on the bench. He had money to spend and more experienced options, but he put faith in someone like Busquets. There's a lot of revisionism that goes on with the Barcelona squad he inherited, where people look at Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets, Pedro, Pique etc and say that team was the one of the world's greatest, but no one was saying that at the time. If Pique was such a huge talent destined for greatness why did United let him go for 5m? I'm pretty certain Real Madrid were the bookmakers favourite to win La Liga the season he took over, and Barcelona would not have been favourites for the CL either. Also, if you watch the Barcelona sides under him and can't see the influence he had on the team then you must be blind, there's a reason he's one of the most esteemed managers in the game, and people like Ferguson who rate him so highly, have a better idea of the work he does than me or you.
Luckily Messi renewed his contract.. Or else he would have ended up at city for a free!! That would have bee a total nightmare..
Surely Pep's next job is PSG.. They have the money as well as the players.. He can make a tea that can rip any team's arse..
Surely Pep's next job is PSG.. They have the money as well as the players.. He can make a tea that can rip any team's arse..
Brown played as RB, in fact he was our main RB that season. I don't remember much about O'Shea but I think that he played in midfield and as backup to Brown and Evra.
It also didn't help that Pique made a big error against Bolton early in the season, pushing SAF to trust more experienced players. It was clear though that he was supremely talented.
Easy to speak of youth when they are already there and world class. If that quote is true then we can add “hypocrite” to the list of charges alongside drugs cheat.Of course it is. He walked into a team with Barcelona's class of 92 so to speak. Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, Busquets, Pique*, Puyol, Pedro & Valdes. They were already made players, he surely can't be given credit for playing them week in week out
*think he resigned Pique from United. Still a youth academy player though.
One can be a world class manager without being a genius, you seem pretty comfortable throwing the word nonsense around too.
I found your comment listing managers who have been genius and not no longer (Wenger) and pochetino has the potential to be a genius in the next few years
nonsense.Yours and clearly mine and other posters views of genius are different. In my view you can’t be a genius or aspire to be a genius, you just ARE a genius. I wouldn’t say many if any football managers are at the moment tbh.
Pep is just a good coach with a good style he needs the best and certain players for, simple as that. No genius involved.