Mozza
It’s Carrick you know
Internal to Oxfam. Who was asking from outside?
Internal to Oxfam. Who was asking from outside?
this is a cop outInternal to Oxfam. Who was asking from outside?
You'd need to be asked before you can stay silentthis is a cop out
how many people get asked "yo, is your organisation rapey?"
this is ridiculousYou'd need to be asked before you can stay silent
You'd still need to be askedthis is ridiculous
a lie of omission is a lie
no you don't, if you know of a crime you are responsible for reporting it, there's a reason why the police doesn't knock on your door every day asking "you seen anything dodgy" what the actual feck are you taking about this is insaneYou'd still need to be asked
They have heard alegations of crimesno you don't, if you know of a crime you are responsible for reporting it, there's a reason why the police doesn't knock on your door every day asking "you seen anything dodgy" what the actual feck are you taking about this is insane
the only way to stop this kind of thing happening is existential danger to organisations that engage in itThey have heard alegations of crimes
Burning the whole charity to the ground is insane
I'm more worried about the actual damage you'll do to the peoples this charity helpsthe only way to stop this kind of thing happening is existential danger to organisations that engage in it
zero, their funds and works would be taken over by another charityI'm more worried about the actual damage you'll do to the peoples this charity helps
As these charities ramp up their capacity, and hire many of the staff you've just fired from Oxfam, what happens to the peoples who are being helped at the moment?zero, their funds and works would be taken over by another charity
just give them the cash oxfam has in those places, they're not stupidAs these charities ramp up their capacity, and hire many of the staff you've just fired from Oxfam, what happens to the peoples who are being helped at the moment?
For someone who is so angry at the loose practices of Oxfam you're incredibly relaxed about chucking that money at others to hire the very same peoplejust give them the cash oxfam has in those place, they're not stupid
What kind of consequences do you suggest?they all got golden handshakes
the current oxfam employee who was chosen as a sacrifice resigned
it's not enough
there needs to be consequences for organisations as a whole
it's the executives that need to be gotten rid of, i don't mind them hiring actual aid workers from oxfamFor someone who is so angry at the loose practices of Oxfam you're incredibly relaxed about chucking that money at others to hire the very same people
total defunding, a ban on executives working in the sector, jail sentences for people who engaged in sexual abuse, sex tourism and those who covered up for themWhat kind of consequences do you suggest?
Its actual aid workers who were engaging in prostitutionit's the executives that need to be gotten rid of, i don't mind them hiring actual aid workers from oxfam
it was an executive who ran the ring, and the executives who covered it upIts actual aid workers who were engaging in prostitution
Total defunding? That's an unjustifiable overreaction. They have the same right as any other organisation to restructure and carry on in better shape than before.total defunding, a ban on executives working in the sector, jail sentences for people who engaged in sexual abuse, sex tourism and those who covered up for them
there is a serious problem in the charity sector with sex tourism and sexual abuse, with pedophiles seeking positions of power in children's charities, the only way to seed them out is an existential threat to charities who do not take it seriously enough, and personal and career consequences for their executivesTotal defunding? That's an unjustifiable overreaction. They have the same right as any other organisation to restructure and carry on in better shape than before.
Human beings are acting like cnuts in every profession - look at parliament, the highest offices in the land. You have to balance it with the good Oxfam have done and help them recover - I seriously doubt they'd leave themselves open to similar accusations in the future so I imagine they will be doing their utmost to restructure and prevent.there is a serious problem in the charity sector with sex tourism and sexual abuse, with pedophiles seeking positions of power in children's charities, the only way to seed them out is an existential threat to charities who do not take it seriously enough, and personal and career consequences for their executives
reforming one charity or another when a whistleblower comes forward is not enough
that's not enough, it gives the entire sector a green light to continue as is until their own whistleblowers come forward, an example needs to be made of them to let the sector know this is not okayHuman beings are acting like cnuts in every profession - look at parliament, the highest offices in the land. You have to balance it with the good Oxfam have done and help them recover - I seriously doubt they'd leave themselves open to similar accusations in the future so I imagine they will be doing their utmost to restructure and prevent.
Not sure where you're getting the green light from or the idea it's letting the sector know it's OK if we don't shut down Oxfam... Bizarre.that's not enough, it gives the entire sector a green light to continue as is until their own whistleblowers come forward, an example needs to be made of them to let the sector know this is not okay
there have been zero consequences for the executive branch of the charity, it lets everyone else know they can get away with covering up abusive behaviourNot sure where you're getting the green light from or the idea it's letting the sector know it's OK if we don't shut down Oxfam... Bizarre.
defunding does not mean a lowering of aid budgets either, but a redirection to othersDefunding may sound - and may be - extreme, but I can see where Silva's coming from insofar as any consequences will probably be quite light, with the indicator being the main problem wasn't what was actually done, but the fact they got caught. Which is a major problem.
Agree with this, anything, everything they can in a criminal sense prosecute they should, Any civil actions they can take by the countrys own laws they should. They should make this in to a witch hunt.that's not enough, it gives the entire sector a green light to continue as is until their own whistleblowers come forward, an example needs to be made of them to let the sector know this is not okay
It’s not.It would be the hight of stupidity to shut down Oxfam
Ranked by whom?It’s not.
None of the well-known NGOs are ranked as among the best charities. Red Cross, Oxfam, MsB etc... shutting them down and allocate the funds to the actual charities that do a whole lot of good with a fraction of the budget and none of the abuse isn’t ‘the hight of stupidity’.
https://www.charitywatch.org/top-rated-charitiesRanked by whom?
That's just wrong given the nature of their assignment. Attracts the wrong people for the job. Shameful.CHARITY ROW Oxfam training guide tells staff it’s ‘ok for them to use prostitutes’ as ban would ‘infringe on civil liberties’
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5582376/oxfam-training-manual-prostitution/
It's a sex tourists' charter!That's just wrong given the nature of their assignment. Attracts the wrong people for the job. Shameful.
Yup...It's a sex tourists' charter!
that's more like itAgree with this, anything, everything they can in a criminal sense prosecute they should, Any civil actions they can take by the countrys own laws they should. They should make this in to a witch hunt.
Can not understand the line of thought behind this... They can demand anything they want in a moral sense of their workers. If it isn't to your liking don't join. I coach my sons football team, before I agreed to coach them they made me sign a paper on how I should behave, what language I should use, that I wasn't allowed to consume any alcohol while on trips etc. Nothing strange or wrong with it.It's a sex tourists' charter!
You'd think they would be able to include morality clauses in their contracts, but they are still subject to employment law.Can not understand the line of thought behind this... They can demand anything they want in a moral sense of their workers. If it isn't to your liking don't join. I coach my sons football team, before I agreed to coach them they made me sign a paper on how I should behave, what language I should use, that I wasn't allowed to consume any alcohol while on trips etc. Nothing strange or wrong with it.
Edit: And I'm from fecking Serbia where almost nothing works as it should.
That's a weird one. Loads of employers have a complete ban on recreational drug use. Testing and all.CHARITY ROW Oxfam training guide tells staff it’s ‘ok for them to use prostitutes’ as ban would ‘infringe on civil liberties’
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5582376/oxfam-training-manual-prostitution/
Oxfam said its training manual had been updated and staff are now banned from paying for sex.
They look totally legithttps://www.charitywatch.org/top-rated-charities
https://www.givewell.org/charities/top-charities
https://www.thelifeyoucansave.org/t...flTf6qOz1spXdtOf73E4RXHOGEoHNqyUaAsLzEALw_wcB
There's a litany of similar results a few searches away.