Does who we sign next really matter anymore

[Ayush_reddevil]

I think that anyone can see that this isn't about the quality of players we get anymore , unlike the lvg era we are now in a great position to move on with a progressive manager . Is there really anyone that we could sign who would change us if Jose remained the manager? We have been 7th and had a lot of shit losses but this is the worst I have felt since fergie left because before this I always thought that we would become better but now I am certain that we won't sack Jose and it is not going to better

 

[PoTMS]

We could buy Messi and he'd look like Benteke. Our scattergun transfer strategy is abysmal.

 

[simonhch]

No it doesn't. We've signed Mkhitaryan - Bundesliga player of the year -, Pogba and Sanchez. All 3 prompting mass bedwetting and ejaculation across fan forums, only for all 3 to look shite once coached by the Special One. The problem is the manager.

 

[BluesJr]

No it absolutely doesn't, the football will be similar regardless of personnel. Sure, we may be more clinical or effective but it won't help bridge the quality gap to City, who play as a team, it doesn't matter who's in that team they play with cohesion.

 

[Igor Drefljak]

It's easy to say it, but yeah, we could sign Messi, Neymar etc.
Our approach will always be the same, they'd make a difference, slightly

 

[Terminator]

Just about anyone to get Fellaini and Smalling out of the starting lineup. Someone like Alderweireld would be a god send.

 

[ravi2]

No it absolutely doesn't, the football will be similar regardless of personnel. Sure, we may be more clinical or effective but it won't help bridge the quality gap to City, who play as a team, it doesn't matter who's in that team they play with cohesion.

Makes you wonder if Pogba or martial were playing for city how they would be developing today

 

[Fooza]

I always say it's down to Mourinho's vision, tactics and training.

We always get giddy in the summer when we buy players, it'll happen this year and next season we'll still look lost. I can't even remember Sanchez playing as bad for Arsenal as he is now.

 

[Stringer]

Not really. Mourinho will still play the same brand of football. I’d be reluctant to give him another £150m.

 

[Pexbo]

No it doesn't. We've signed Mkhitaryan - Bundesliga player of the year -, Pogba and Sanchez. All 3 prompting mass bedwetting and ejaculation across fan forums, only for all 3 to look shite once coached by the Special One. The problem is the manager.

And yet we’re second, ahead of both Liverpool and Spurs and with a better goal difference.

So if he’s not getting the best out of his big signings, he deserves credit for what he’s done with the squad players and youngsters, no?

 

[Judas]

We're deeply flawed from a tactical standpoint and the way we approach matches isn't going to be improved by player changes.

 

[Infra-red]

We're the place where good players come to die. Hopefully none of the good players available this summer have noticed this.

 

[BluesJr]

Makes you wonder if Pogba or martial were playing for city how they would be developing today

Quite.

Pogba has been awful recently and he has so much to learn, but I'm convinced he's getting absolutely no help from the manager as to how to improve.

 

[Jev]

People are delusional if they think a few transfers will change things. Our squad is good enough. Our manager isn't.

 

[Minimalist]

This was questioned before. When we were talking about Griezmann coming in (is that really going to change our attack with how we currently play?)

Then with Sanchez (guess we'll see how it looks when a known creative player joins the attack). Sanchez has looked like a pub player for most of his short time with us. Basic stuff, passes etc are poor.

Right now as we speak, no it doesn't seem like it's got much to do with who we buy. United have better individuals than Sevilla - make no mistake about that.

 

[spiriticon]

It doesn't, no. In fact at this point I'd rather we not waste money on any supposedly 'world class' attackers because sure as hell they'll be utter shite.

I'd rather we just spent money on young, quality talent for the future.

 

[Ballache]

Doesn't seem like it. People seem to forget how to play football when they join us.

 

[Fergie Steps In]

Yeah no more of the "we need to buy _____" solutions. This club threw a lot of money around for this manager. If the manager can't "manage" to win with these players, then unfortunately I think he is to blame. Past accomplishments can only take you so far.

 

[Kazi]

Nope. Which is why I don’t understand why all these transfer threads still get so much hype. How can y’all still get excited after seeing the difference all of our spending has actually made.

 

[lysglimt]

With Mourinho in charge no - he can't get anyone to play like a team.

 

[Garethw]

No it doesn't. We've signed Mkhitaryan - Bundesliga player of the year -, Pogba and Sanchez. All 3 prompting mass bedwetting and ejaculation across fan forums, only for all 3 to look shite once coached by the Special One. The problem is the manager.

Spot on mate.

 

[Peanut Butter]

And yet we’re second, ahead of both Liverpool and Spurs and with a better goal difference.

So if he’s not getting the best out of his big signings, he deserves credit for what he’s done with the squad players and youngsters, no?

No you can't stay that, it doesn't suit the anti Jose narrative!

We are actually midtable and haven't scored lots of goals, this is all a dream!

 

[Ayush_reddevil]

Think we have some really good players now and we will finish in the top4 , it will be a big decision but it is the perfect time to get someone new in . You can be certain that we won't make top 4 next season with this manager

 

[Kevin]

Mourinho could take over the squad at City and still fail to match Pep. He's a dinosaur.

 

[Erictheking7]

We signed one of the best players in the Premier League, Sanchez and have looked worse than before he signed, so I would say no.

 

[lysglimt]

People are delusional if they think a few transfers will change things. Our squad is good enough. Our manager isn't.

Our squad is good enough to beat Sevilla - our manager isn't good enough to make them play

 

[ravi2]

People are delusional if they think a few transfers will change things. Our squad is good enough. Our manager isn't.

Anyone who looks at our squad on paper and dont think we can handily beat sevilla at home needs their head checked. Why on earth should we buy more players if we can't even beat sevilla at home? We need more world class players to beat a team like sevilla?

 

[Roboc7]

No I don’t think it does, we always seem to be relying on signings to solve all our problems but the real issue at this club is we have appointed three successive managers with negative and to varying extent outdated tactics.

Football has evolved and our managerial appointments haven’t reflected that, we play at nothing like the top European sides and even likes of Spurs and Liverpool always try to impose themselves in games.

 

[Jed I. Knight]

Mourinho could take over the squad at City and still fail to match Pep. He's a dinosaur.

He'd probably struggle for top four with that squad, in all honesty.

 

[K2K]

And yet we’re second, ahead of both Liverpool and Spurs and with a better goal difference.

So if he’s not getting the best out of his big signings, he deserves credit for what he’s done with the squad players and youngsters, no?

Yes. He does.

But has he taken us as far as he can?

I say that as a massive fan of the man but it scares me watching what we saw tonight. Which is not the exception especially in bigger games.

I think a lot of our fans need to reassess their expectations. I think the next few years will not be the easiest. Jose or not.

It's a pity I love this club so much so I will just have to suffer through it. The day we get back to our level will be glorious though.

 

[Fooza]

And yet we’re second, ahead of both Liverpool and Spurs and with a better goal difference.

So if he’s not getting the best out of his big signings, he deserves credit for what he’s done with the squad players and youngsters, no?

Second, third or fourth, does it really matter? When we're miles off City from first than we are fifth. It all means nothing apart from getting the CL spot.

It really grates on me when people use Premier league positions to cover how bad and inconsistent we are under Mourinho. As a team we are far off playing football like how Liverpool,Spurs and City are.

A second place position won't hide that for long.

 

[kouroux]

It won't because as long as our football is chaotic and relies heavily on individual performances/miracles or mistakes by the opponent, any new signing will find it tough.

 

[goin4glory]

I think that anyone can see that this isn't about the quality of players we get anymore , unlike the lvg era we are now in a great position to move on with a progressive manager . Is there really anyone that we could sign who would change us if Jose remained the manager? We have been 7th and had a lot of shit losses but this is the worst I have felt since fergie left because before this I always thought that we would become better but now I am certain that we won't sack Jose and it is not going to better

Of course it matters. Mourinho has played much better football in the past. The current slump we're in is the biggest sign possible that players are far more important than managers, neither Pep nor Jose could get close to a title without spending fortunes.

 

[U99ted]

Doesn't seem like it. People seem to forget how to play football when they join us.

Exactly. No other team could sign Pogba, Sanchez, Mkhitaryan, Falcao, Mata, Di Maria and Kagawa and make them all look average or poor.

 

[Ayush_reddevil]

No you can't stay that, it doesn't suit the anti Jose narrative!

We are actually midtable and haven't scored lots of goals, this is all a dream!

I think that United fans on a forum like this should be able to have decent discussions rather than just digs, let's forget the table for a moment . We finish second but do you see this manager being able to take this team to another level ? Have you seen anything going forward that suggests that we are becoming better in attack ?

 

[El Zoido]

No it doesn't. We've signed Mkhitaryan - Bundesliga player of the year -, Pogba and Sanchez. All 3 prompting mass bedwetting and ejaculation across fan forums, only for all 3 to look shite once coached by the Special One. The problem is the manager.

It was the same with the last two managers as well. Good players turned shite.

 

[simonhch]

And yet we’re second, ahead of both Liverpool and Spurs and with a better goal difference.

So if he’s not getting the best out of his big signings, he deserves credit for what he’s done with the squad players and youngsters, no?

He deserves nothing. He's spent a fortune and we play terrible football. We've ground our way to second place. And second place wins nothing. Our best chance of a major trophy just came and went with the most disgusting performance imaginable. If this was Real, Barca, or Bayern, he'd be gone.

 

[Treble]

And yet we’re second, ahead of both Liverpool and Spurs and with a better goal difference.

So if he’s not getting the best out of his big signings, he deserves credit for what he’s done with the squad players and youngsters, no?

DDG deserves credit, not Jose. Swap the keepers with Liverpool and they are at least 10 pts ahead. Which shouldn't be the case because Jose has invested in the team way more than Klopp (who lost Coutinho too).

 

[marktan]

People bashing Mourinho need to go back and watch the football he's played at Chelsea (twice), Madrid and Inter (at times).

It's the personnel. Our attacking wide players are all either potential / strikers (Rashford / Martial), or just not that good / decent (Mata, Lingard, Sanchez / Mikhi before). A lot of the blame for that lies with Mourinho though. Sign someone like Salah or Mahrez who'd be natural on the right flank and our attacking shape would be so different.

 

[Murder on Zidanes Floor]

Money will solve nothing. Which players out there fit our playing style? None because we dont have one. We go for names.

Guess what, we will get more names next year, Bale etc but it won't make a difference.

Nope. Actually doesn't matter anymore. We've had Falcao, Di Maria, Pogba, Sanchez, Lukaku, Martial, Mata. Established players who have performed very well elsewhere and yet come here and are below average.

If SAF had that lot we'd of probably won two trebles.