We won the trophy last year. Sevilla were knocked out of the CL by Leicester City that time.
Moreover, people have already pointed out that this is not the same Sevilla team which won 3 back to back ELs. It's a shadow of that side with the majority of the players and the manager having been replaced.
If anyone, it's you who needs to check facts before trying to act all high and mighty.
After spending 300 mil, if Mourinho turns up with that tumescent shite at OT while getting kicked out of the CL and then making excuses that the Sevilla side is better than us, then he needs replacing before the players.
As for that crazy analogy about exes and crap, no one here is saying that we need to dominate the PL for a decade. It's you who went on that tangent. In fact you are the one bringing up SAF to somehow counter a point which was never raised.
Honesty, the way you speak sounds like you are Jose yourself.
Yes, I know that United won the trophy last year, I support and watch every United game. I also said "post SAF" and that doesn't include just last year. Since you mentioned facts, lets talk about facts: Sevilla are in the final of Copa del Rey for the first time since Emery was their manager (with a better team like you are trying to say, that team that got 3 ELs). They beat that other "shitty" team Atlético Madrid (5-2 agg). Since Emery, they had their best league place (4th) last year (when they lost against Leicester, with this "new" team). They are currently 5th on the league, the same place they usually finished with Emery.
Because they lost against Leicester City (3-2 agg) last year, you ignore everything else and call Sevilla shit and a shadow of the team that got the three ELs, despite them doing better now than they did back then. Also, they changed manager but the there's at least half of the players on the team from those 3 ELs trophys, not even going to mention they got some decent players too.
Now that the facts are over and the one acting mighty and superior is actually you and not me regarding Sevilla, lets talk about United. (I couldn't care less about Sevilla, but I don't disrespect them like some fans here do).
The game against Sevilla was "tumescent shite" I do agree with you, I hated it every bit. Unfortunately, the tactics were not good and some players under-performed, some were playing with fear in my opinion. But you can't just ignore some of the good recent games we had, against Liverpool and Chelsea. I disagree that Mourinho was making excuses (if by excuse you mean the some Sevilla players would play on United). He was simply respecting Sevilla value, because unlike a lot of you that say they are shit team, they are a good team and doing good in their competitions. Actually some Sevilla players would be good (not World Class, which United doesn't have that many with that quality too) alternatives to United (specially when our midfield is so thin, missing a right winger, no fullbacks etc).
Before someone mentions it: Yes, we should have won the game because we have more quality, things just didn't go well in all aspects.
Why so many of you feel necessary to hear from the manager that it was is own fault, it's over me. He knows that he failed, some players also failed, what matters is improving and moving on. It's way more important knowing that he wants the fans to expect more and better from United and that he's with the club, staff, owners and players, all together trying to rebuild United to be respected like it was before.
My point about post SAF is simply that since then, United have struggled, they won't perform anywhere good and consistently. I guess even you can agree on this, it's not about dominating, it's about being decent enough to try and win something. United have never reached 2nd place, nor even 3rd place in PL since SAF. We are doing some progress, despite that very bad loss against Sevilla. I just don't share the doomsday view and the negativity that people here like to do whenever United looses. And like you said, "no one here is saying that we need to dominate the PL", but we are growing.
Also, I wouldn't mind being Mourinho account. That paycheck would be great.
If the team is not where he wants them to be after spending 300m then he only has himself to blame. If the team is not in a position to be playing attacking football against (Parking the bus in Seville no less) Sevilla then he's to blame. It's one thing to just lose to Sevilla but losing because we played cowardly football is infuriating. And Sevilla didn't even play well.
The fact that we're doing better last season is neither here nor there. The question we need to ask is if he's the right man to lead us to the league or CL. On the basis of this season you'd have to seriously question that. An now he's players and the club as a whole under the bus for his deficiencies. Nonsense like this only works if you're winning things.
I think people here just automatically throw the word "bus" on Mourinho teams because he was famous for it. Have you even checked our line-up and where Fellaini was? Fellaini was brought in place of McTominay to bring more attacking power and try to score first. He never set the team to park the bus, besides the 4 defenders and Matic, there's no more bus to it.
We created some chances in the 1st half but unfortunately the goal didn't appear and I think the team started to feel a bit nervous because of the high pressing that Sevilla players were making. United started to withdraw more in their own defense (remember that in players minds, one goal from Sevilla would mean game almost over, as the time was starting to reach the end). Mourinho even took out Fellaini before Sevilla scored, to attack even more (despite Pogba being shit lately). How can one really think that Mourinho set the team to draw/park the bus is beyond me. The tactics didn't worked out sure, but he never parked the bus. It's a conjunction of the tactics not panning out like Mourinho wanted and players underperforming with some even being sloppy.
And yes, lets just ignore the progress we made comparing to last years, because it totally makes sense. Ignore Liverpool and Chelsea games, that we are 2nd for the first time since SAF years, that United managed to get back in CL, despite not going well against Sevilla. Just sack Mourinho despite all that, clone Pep the messiah and bring him to United to turn water into wine in 1 year and a half maximum.
