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  1. oneniltothearsenal - 1) K. Dalglish (10) 2) K. Sansom (7) 3) J. Robertson (16)
  2. green_smiley - 1) I. Rush (4) 2) D. Rocastle (31)
  3. BeforeKeanetherewasRobson - 1) B. Robson (51) T McDermott (146)
  4. Edgar Allan Pillow - 1) P. McGrath (63) 2) A. Muhren (14)
  5. Frank Grimes - 1) K. Keegan (480) 2) J. Giles (142)
  6. Enigma_87/TRV - 1) G. Lineker (3) 2) O. Ardiles (4)
  7. MJJ - 1) G. Souness (180) 2) C. Bell (191)
  8. youngrell - 1) P. Gascoigne (28) 2) M. Le Tissier (287)
  9. Cal? - 1) G. Best (10) 2) T. Adams (460)
  10. Gio - 1) G. Hoddle (35) 2) C. Waddle (48)
  11. Skizzo/Pat Mustard - 1) J. Barnes (137) 2) D. McGrain (116)
  12. Tuppet - 1) A. Hansen (46) 2) P. Beardsley (91)
  13. Oaencha - 1) R. Keane (19) 2) I. Wright (147)
  14. Indnyc - 1) E. Gray (34) 2) P. Thompson (145)
  15. KM/Invictus/Šjor Bepo - 1) M. Hughes (90) 2) E. Hughes (16)
  16. Chesterlestreet -1) L. Brady 2) P. Lorimer (260)
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  1. oneniltothearsenal - 1) K. Dalglish (10) 2) K. Sansom (7) 3) J. Robertson (16)
  2. green_smiley - 1) I. Rush (4) 2) D. Rocastle (31) 3) S. Jardine (7)
  3. BeforeKeanetherewasRobson - 1) B. Robson (51) 3) T. McDermott (146)
  4. Edgar Allan Pillow - 1) P. McGrath (63) 2) A. Muhren (14)
  5. Frank Grimes - 1) K. Keegan (480) 2) J. Giles (142)
  6. Enigma_87/TRV - 1) G. Lineker (3) 2) O. Ardiles (4)
  7. MJJ - 1) G. Souness (180) 2) C. Bell (191)
  8. youngrell - 1) P. Gascoigne (28) 2) M. Le Tissier (287)
  9. Cal? - 1) G. Best (10) 2) T. Adams (460)
  10. Gio - 1) G. Hoddle (35) 2) C. Waddle (48)
  11. Skizzo/Pat Mustard - 1) J. Barnes (137) 2) D. McGrain (116)
  12. Tuppet - 1) A. Hansen (46) 2) P. Beardsley (91)
  13. Oaencha - 1) R. Keane (19) 2) I. Wright (147)
  14. Indnyc - 1) E. Gray (34) 2) P. Thompson (145)
  15. KM/Invictus/Šjor Bepo - 1) M. Hughes (90) 2) E. Hughes (16)
  16. Chesterlestreet -1) L. Brady 2) P. Lorimer (260)
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This is painful to see all my shortlisted players going one by one :o
 

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Raees said:
One of my faves.. such an underrated player.
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Cheers! I didn't even have him slotted for this early (thought I could get him on the 4/5 turn) but when :lol: took Rocky Rocastle (I really wanted him) I realized I better pick him now
 

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oneniltothearsenal said:
Cheers! I didn't even have him slotted for this early (thought I could get him on the 4/5 turn) but when :lol: took Rocky Rocastle (I really wanted him) I realized I better pick him now
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Haven't read it in ages but when I read book on Clough, he was an incredible key factor behind their success and arguably their greatest player.

 

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So many players, so little time....

  1. oneniltothearsenal - 1) K. Dalglish (10) 2) K. Sansom (7) 3) J. Robertson (16)
  2. green_smiley - 1) I. Rush (4) 2) D. Rocastle (31) 3) S. Jardine (7)
  3. BeforeKeanetherewasRobson - 1) B. Robson (51) 2) T. McDermott (146) 3) D Irwin (14)
  4. Edgar Allan Pillow - 1) P. McGrath (63) 2) A. Muhren (14)
  5. Frank Grimes - 1) K. Keegan (480) 2) J. Giles (142)
  6. Enigma_87/TRV - 1) G. Lineker (3) 2) O. Ardiles (4)
  7. MJJ - 1) G. Souness (180) 2) C. Bell (191)
  8. youngrell - 1) P. Gascoigne (28) 2) M. Le Tissier (287)
  9. Cal? - 1) G. Best (10) 2) T. Adams (460)
  10. Gio - 1) G. Hoddle (35) 2) C. Waddle (48)
  11. Skizzo/Pat Mustard - 1) J. Barnes (137) 2) D. McGrain (116)
  12. Tuppet - 1) A. Hansen (46) 2) P. Beardsley (91)
  13. Oaencha - 1) R. Keane (19) 2) I. Wright (147)
  14. Indnyc - 1) E. Gray (34) 2) P. Thompson (145)
  15. KM/Invictus/Šjor Bepo - 1) M. Hughes (90) 2) E. Hughes (16)
  16. Chesterlestreet -1) L. Brady 2) P. Lorimer (260
 

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Irwin in 2nd division for Oldham? ;)

Phil Neal.
  1. oneniltothearsenal - 1) K. Dalglish (10) 2) K. Sansom (7) 3) J. Robertson (16)
  2. green_smiley - 1) I. Rush (4) 2) D. Rocastle (31) 3) S. Jardine (7)
  3. BeforeKeanetherewasRobson - 1) B. Robson (51) 2) T. McDermott (146) 3) D Irwin (14)
  4. Edgar Allan Pillow - 1) P. McGrath (63) 2) A. Muhren (14) 3) P. Neal (2)
  5. Frank Grimes - 1) K. Keegan (480) 2) J. Giles (142)
  6. Enigma_87/TRV - 1) G. Lineker (3) 2) O. Ardiles (4)
  7. MJJ - 1) G. Souness (180) 2) C. Bell (191)
  8. youngrell - 1) P. Gascoigne (28) 2) M. Le Tissier (287)
  9. Cal? - 1) G. Best (10) 2) T. Adams (460)
  10. Gio - 1) G. Hoddle (35) 2) C. Waddle (48)
  11. Skizzo/Pat Mustard - 1) J. Barnes (137) 2) D. McGrain (116)
  12. Tuppet - 1) A. Hansen (46) 2) P. Beardsley (91)
  13. Oaencha - 1) R. Keane (19) 2) I. Wright (147)
  14. Indnyc - 1) E. Gray (34) 2) P. Thompson (145)
  15. KM/Invictus/Šjor Bepo - 1) M. Hughes (90) 2) E. Hughes (16)
  16. Chesterlestreet -1) L. Brady 2) P. Lorimer (260
 

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  1. oneniltothearsenal - 1) K. Dalglish (10) 2) K. Sansom (7) 3) J. Robertson (16)
  2. green_smiley - 1) I. Rush (4) 2) D. Rocastle (31) 3) S. Jardine (7)
  3. BeforeKeanetherewasRobson - 1) B. Robson (51) 2) T. McDermott (146) 3) D Irwin (14)
  4. Edgar Allan Pillow - 1) P. McGrath (63) 2) A. Muhren (14) 3) P. Neal (2)
  5. Frank Grimes - 1) K. Keegan (480) 2) J. Giles (142) B. Bremner (11)
  6. Enigma_87/TRV - 1) G. Lineker (3) 2) O. Ardiles (4)
  7. MJJ - 1) G. Souness (180) 2) C. Bell (191)
  8. youngrell - 1) P. Gascoigne (28) 2) M. Le Tissier (287)
  9. Cal? - 1) G. Best (10) 2) T. Adams (460)
  10. Gio - 1) G. Hoddle (35) 2) C. Waddle (48)
  11. Skizzo/Pat Mustard - 1) J. Barnes (137) 2) D. McGrain (116)
  12. Tuppet - 1) A. Hansen (46) 2) P. Beardsley (91)
  13. Oaencha - 1) R. Keane (19) 2) I. Wright (147)
  14. Indnyc - 1) E. Gray (34) 2) P. Thompson (145)
  15. KM/Invictus/Šjor Bepo - 1) M. Hughes (90) 2) E. Hughes (16)
  16. Chesterlestreet -1) L. Brady 2) P. Lorimer (260

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  1. oneniltothearsenal - 1) K. Dalglish (10) 2) K. Sansom (7) 3) J. Robertson (16)
  2. green_smiley - 1) I. Rush (4) 2) D. Rocastle (31) 3) S. Jardine (7)
  3. BeforeKeanetherewasRobson - 1) B. Robson (51) 2) T. McDermott (146) 3) D Irwin (14)
  4. Edgar Allan Pillow - 1) P. McGrath (63) 2) A. Muhren (14) 3) P. Neal (2)
  5. Frank Grimes - 1) K. Keegan (480) 2) J. Giles (142) 3) B. Bremner (12)
  6. Enigma_87/TRV - 1) G. Lineker (3) 2) O. Ardiles (4) 3) D.Walker (1)
  7. MJJ - 1) G. Souness (180) 2) C. Bell (191)
  8. youngrell - 1) P. Gascoigne (28) 2) M. Le Tissier (287)
  9. Cal? - 1) G. Best (10) 2) T. Adams (460)
  10. Gio - 1) G. Hoddle (35) 2) C. Waddle (48)
  11. Skizzo/Pat Mustard - 1) J. Barnes (137) 2) D. McGrain (116)
  12. Tuppet - 1) A. Hansen (46) 2) P. Beardsley (91)
  13. Oaencha - 1) R. Keane (19) 2) I. Wright (147)
  14. Indnyc - 1) E. Gray (34) 2) P. Thompson (145)
  15. KM/Invictus/Šjor Bepo - 1) M. Hughes (90) 2) E. Hughes (16)
  16. Chesterlestreet -1) L. Brady 2) P. Lorimer (260)
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  1. oneniltothearsenal - 1) K. Dalglish (10) 2) K. Sansom (7) 3) J. Robertson (16)
  2. green_smiley - 1) I. Rush (4) 2) D. Rocastle (31) 3) S. Jardine (7)
  3. BeforeKeanetherewasRobson - 1) B. Robson (51) 2) T. McDermott (146) 3) D Irwin (14)
  4. Edgar Allan Pillow - 1) P. McGrath (63) 2) A. Muhren (14) 3) P. Neal (2)
  5. Frank Grimes - 1) K. Keegan (480) 2) J. Giles (142) 3) B. Bremner (12)
  6. Enigma_87/TRV - 1) G. Lineker (3) 2) O. Ardiles (4) 3) D.Walker (1)
  7. MJJ - 1) G. Souness (180) 2) C. Bell (191), 3) R.Wilkins (7)
  8. youngrell - 1) P. Gascoigne (28) 2) M. Le Tissier (287), 3) P. Ince (2)
  9. Cal? - 1) G. Best (10) 2) T. Adams (460)
  10. Gio - 1) G. Hoddle (35) 2) C. Waddle (48)
  11. Skizzo/Pat Mustard - 1) J. Barnes (137) 2) D. McGrain (116)
  12. Tuppet - 1) A. Hansen (46) 2) P. Beardsley (91)
  13. Oaencha - 1) R. Keane (19) 2) I. Wright (147)
  14. Indnyc - 1) E. Gray (34) 2) P. Thompson (145)
  15. KM/Invictus/Šjor Bepo - 1) M. Hughes (90) 2) E. Hughes (16)
  16. Chesterlestreet -1) L. Brady 2) P. Lorimer (260)
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Edgar Allan Pillow said:
Irwin in 2nd division for Oldham? ;)

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  1. oneniltothearsenal - 1) K. Dalglish (10) 2) K. Sansom (7) 3) J. Robertson (16)
  2. green_smiley - 1) I. Rush (4) 2) D. Rocastle (31) 3) S. Jardine (7)
  3. BeforeKeanetherewasRobson - 1) B. Robson (51) 2) T. McDermott (146) 3) D Irwin (14)
  4. Edgar Allan Pillow - 1) P. McGrath (63) 2) A. Muhren (14) 3) P. Neal (2)
  5. Frank Grimes - 1) K. Keegan (480) 2) J. Giles (142)
  6. Enigma_87/TRV - 1) G. Lineker (3) 2) O. Ardiles (4)
  7. MJJ - 1) G. Souness (180) 2) C. Bell (191)
  8. youngrell - 1) P. Gascoigne (28) 2) M. Le Tissier (287)
  9. Cal? - 1) G. Best (10) 2) T. Adams (460)
  10. Gio - 1) G. Hoddle (35) 2) C. Waddle (48)
  11. Skizzo/Pat Mustard - 1) J. Barnes (137) 2) D. McGrain (116)
  12. Tuppet - 1) A. Hansen (46) 2) P. Beardsley (91)
  13. Oaencha - 1) R. Keane (19) 2) I. Wright (147)
  14. Indnyc - 1) E. Gray (34) 2) P. Thompson (145)
  15. KM/Invictus/Šjor Bepo - 1) M. Hughes (90) 2) E. Hughes (16)
  16. Chesterlestreet -1) L. Brady 2) P. Lorimer (260
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2 seasons of Irwin is worth 10 of most players.

I wanted every single one of your picks.....

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ray wilkins @youngrell
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I'd actually typed his name in for my second pick then changed last minute.

Very very sad news. Good player (loved 80s United).
 

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Edgar Allan Pillow said:
I'm surprised Neal lasted this long as I was expecting him to go soon after Hughes. Him and McGrain are probably the standout attacking RBs in this draft.
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Those two and I would also add Jardine to the list. I really wanted him
 

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Since we are talking full backs, for me Kenny Sansom is the standout left back of this era.


  • Crystal Palace Player of the Year: 1977, 1979
  • Arsenal Player of the Year: 1981
  • PFA First Division Team of the Year (8): 1979–80, 1980–81, 1981–82, 1982–83, 1983–84, 1984–85, 1985–86, 1986–87
From 79-80 to 86-87 he was in the PFA Team of the Year a record setting 8 times and is the second most capped England left-back after Ashley Cole. Tony Adams in his book, Addicted, described Sansom as a joker personality in the locker room who was superb at keeping his teammates loose and in spirits. He was a mentor to Tony Adams who help instill the strong mentality in Adams. Sansom was generally considered the best left-back in the UK from 1979 to 1987.

"Kenny Sansom arrived at (Arsenal) in 1980 as a replacement for Sammy Nelson. He was an all-round full back, he knew when to push forward to attack and when to sit in and defend. He was an excellent passer of the ball and had fantastic pace. Sansom was a great tackler, he had the ability to stay on his feet and time his tackle to perfection and was also strong in the air. Sansom made 394 appearances for the club before leaving in 1988. One of Arsenal and England’s finest left backs." - Arsenal Insider

""He defended soundly, tackled crisply, distributed the ball intelligently, and got up to support the attack so he was the all-round package" This was the rave review given to Kenny by Charlie George, one of Arsenal's former great strikers. IN his time at Palace, under Terry Venables, kenny had already gained a reputation as an attacking fullback who was equally at home in the opposition half of the field as he was in his own; happy to get forward in support of the midfield and front mean at any given moment and with the speed and awareness to get back to perform his defensive duties. Such was the impact Sansom made in his first season at Highbury that, by the end of it, he was voted the Club's player of the year by the supporters. The fans had been greatly impressed by his all-round ability - even in the air. At 5ft 8in he was by no means the tallest, but he won more than his fair share of aerials duels although he was noted for his near faultless first touch, his intelligent use of the ball and his unselfish support play. He wasn't a defender who favoured the lunging tackle, preferring instead to jockey his opponent away from the danger area before using his impeccable timing to make an interception at the vital moment. He wasn't often caught out and was rarely, if ever, given the runaround by even the liveliest of wide men. It was said that the only player to read situations as well as him was Paolo Maldini :blink: Kenny's leadership qualities are often underestimated, but he was undoubtedly valued by the players who took to the field behind him. However, a niggling injury and the arrival of Nigel Winterburn conspired to the end of Kenny's Highbury career. His role in nurturing the emergent Tony Adams would be vital to Arsenal's success of recent years, as would the enxample he set to his eventual replacement, Winterburn. "

 
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BeforeKeanetherewasRobson said:
Yeah, in hindsight I probably should have picked him (he's top of my RB list) and gambled on Irwin staying.... heyho.
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I made the same mistake in picking Muhren (should have waited, though Ardiles pick forced me into it). RB is more important as you have top wingers are on the left (Barnes, Best, Brady etc).

Though you can play Irwin on the right as he played there for Oldham too.
 

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Edgar Allan Pillow said:
I made the same mistake in picking Muhren (should have waited, though Ardiles pick forced me into it). RB is more important as you have top wingers are on the left (Barnes, Best, Brady etc).

Though you can play Irwin on the right as he played there for Oldham too.
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The FA cup semi against us in 90.

Anyway, first few rounds have shown me I need to think about ORDER of picks as well as the picks themselves.

Such a draft virgin.
 

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BeforeKeanetherewasRobson said:
The FA cup semi against us in 90.

Anyway, first few rounds have shown me I need to think about ORDER of picks as well as the picks themselves.

Such a draft virgin.
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I think we are all this draft. After the first three rounds, I think most of the players will be draft newcomers so no one really has an idea how the voters as a group will rate the formations.
 

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Edgar Allan Pillow said:
I must be doing this wrong. My very short list (just 6 players) is still intact and none have been picked, except for Ardiles :lol:

It's surprising Ardiles even lasted for Enigma. I was expecting to go late 1st or early 2nd round.
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yeah, pretty happy with our first three picks - we have our spine now. Ardiles I thought he'd go first round, for me the best CM for me behind Robbo and Souness within the current pool limitations(and of course not peak Keane, etc).
 

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  1. oneniltothearsenal - 1) K. Dalglish (10) 2) K. Sansom (7) 3) J. Robertson (16)
  2. green_smiley - 1) I. Rush (4) 2) D. Rocastle (31) 3) S. Jardine (7)
  3. BeforeKeanetherewasRobson - 1) B. Robson (51) 2) T. McDermott (146) 3) D Irwin (14)
  4. Edgar Allan Pillow - 1) P. McGrath (63) 2) A. Muhren (14) 3) P. Neal (2)
  5. Frank Grimes - 1) K. Keegan (480) 2) J. Giles (142) 3) B. Bremner (12)
  6. Enigma_87/TRV - 1) G. Lineker (3) 2) O. Ardiles (4) 3) D.Walker (1)
  7. MJJ - 1) G. Souness (180) 2) C. Bell (191), 3) R.Wilkins (7)
  8. youngrell - 1) P. Gascoigne (28) 2) M. Le Tissier (287), 3) P. Ince (2)
  9. Cal? - 1) G. Best (10) 2) T. Adams (460) 3) S Pearce (298)
  10. Gio - 1) G. Hoddle (35) 2) C. Waddle (48)
  11. Skizzo/Pat Mustard - 1) J. Barnes (137) 2) D. McGrain (116)
  12. Tuppet - 1) A. Hansen (46) 2) P. Beardsley (91)
  13. Oaencha - 1) R. Keane (19) 2) I. Wright (147)
  14. Indnyc - 1) E. Gray (34) 2) P. Thompson (145)
  15. KM/Invictus/Šjor Bepo - 1) M. Hughes (90) 2) E. Hughes (16)
  16. Chesterlestreet -1) L. Brady 2) P. Lorimer (260)
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  1. oneniltothearsenal - 1) K. Dalglish (10) 2) K. Sansom (7) 3) J. Robertson (16)
  2. green_smiley - 1) I. Rush (4) 2) D. Rocastle (31) 3) S. Jardine (7)
  3. BeforeKeanetherewasRobson - 1) B. Robson (51) 2) T. McDermott (146) 3) D Irwin (14)
  4. Edgar Allan Pillow - 1) P. McGrath (63) 2) A. Muhren (14) 3) P. Neal (2)
  5. Frank Grimes - 1) K. Keegan (480) 2) J. Giles (142) 3) B. Bremner (12)
  6. Enigma_87/TRV - 1) G. Lineker (3) 2) O. Ardiles (4) 3) D.Walker (1)
  7. MJJ - 1) G. Souness (180) 2) C. Bell (191), 3) R.Wilkins (7)
  8. youngrell - 1) P. Gascoigne (28) 2) M. Le Tissier (287), 3) P. Ince (2)
  9. Cal? - 1) G. Best (10) 2) T. Adams (460) 3) S Pearce (298)
  10. Gio - 1) G. Hoddle (35) 2) C. Waddle (48) 3) V. Anderson (76)
  11. Skizzo/Pat Mustard - 1) J. Barnes (137) 2) D. McGrain (116)
  12. Tuppet - 1) A. Hansen (46) 2) P. Beardsley (91)
  13. Oaencha - 1) R. Keane (19) 2) I. Wright (147)
  14. Indnyc - 1) E. Gray (34) 2) P. Thompson (145)
  15. KM/Invictus/Šjor Bepo - 1) M. Hughes (90) 2) E. Hughes (16)
  16. Chesterlestreet -1) L. Brady 2) P. Lorimer (260)
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  1. oneniltothearsenal - 1) K. Dalglish (10) 2) K. Sansom (7) 3) J. Robertson (16)
  2. green_smiley - 1) I. Rush (4) 2) D. Rocastle (31) 3) S. Jardine (7)
  3. BeforeKeanetherewasRobson - 1) B. Robson (51) 2) T. McDermott (146) 3) D Irwin (14)
  4. Edgar Allan Pillow - 1) P. McGrath (63) 2) A. Muhren (14) 3) P. Neal (2)
  5. Frank Grimes - 1) K. Keegan (480) 2) J. Giles (142) 3) B. Bremner (12)
  6. Enigma_87/TRV - 1) G. Lineker (3) 2) O. Ardiles (4) 3) D.Walker (1)
  7. MJJ - 1) G. Souness (180) 2) C. Bell (191), 3) R.Wilkins (7)
  8. youngrell - 1) P. Gascoigne (28) 2) M. Le Tissier (287), 3) P. Ince (2)
  9. Cal? - 1) G. Best (10) 2) T. Adams (460) 3) S Pearce (298)
  10. Gio - 1) G. Hoddle (35) 2) C. Waddle (48) 3) V. Anderson (76)
  11. Skizzo/Pat Mustard - 1) J. Barnes (137) 2) D. McGrain (116) 3. N. Whiteside (15)
  12. Tuppet - 1) A. Hansen (46) 2) P. Beardsley (91)
  13. Oaencha - 1) R. Keane (19) 2) I. Wright (147)
  14. Indnyc - 1) E. Gray (34) 2) P. Thompson (145)
  15. KM/Invictus/Šjor Bepo - 1) M. Hughes (90) 2) E. Hughes (16)
  16. Chesterlestreet -1) L. Brady 2) P. Lorimer (260)
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