It’s their destiny 
Real Madrid v Liverpool build up
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) was joined by comedian Ali Woods to look back at the best and worst moments of a rollercoaster season with the annual United Hour Awards.
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Yeah I figured that, it’s wrong IMO.
When they win, and sadly I’m convinced this crest of a wave is going to carry them to the trophy, maybe it might start sinking into some heads that you don’t need the best players in the world in every position. Get a good forward line playing fluid and your team as a unit and you can go a long way
Totally, should be 63,000 RM fans and 0 scousers
banned
Agreed.Mane says that Liverpool can beat any team.
Any team other than United and Real Madrid he means!
Any team other than United and Real Madrid he means!
Am I the only one who both hates the idea of Liverpool winning this but begrudgingly admits they deserve it after how they have played all the way through it?
Yes
Do us a favor, Cristiano.
#YouWereOnceARedDevil
#YouWereOnceARedDevil
Salah is fasting for Ramadan. Liverpool have no chance unfortunately
Fan yes but have some fecking perspective, he is paid to be professional not spout shit that they are the best team in Europe and England, which is bullshit. He is so fecking wired that if a United fan walked past him in a United shirt he would swing a punch instead of spitting.
Except against West Brom and Stoke. Liverpool have always had a great attacking trio but with nothing in the middle and a defense and Keeper that leak goals you end up in the same position they have recently been in. If that trio are not performing you end up were Liverpool usually end up, 7th or 8th.
Let's not dismiss the consecutive European champions who have beaten the continents best teams to reach another final. The collective creaming of Liverpool, who only play well when the opposition defense is playing in midfield is embarrassing. I remember everyone wanted their clubs to ditch their set ups and do what Leicster City did to win the league. No one did and where are Leicster now.
Liverpool look good when opposing teams don't do their homework. Madrid will do their homework and frustrate Salah and Mane to the point of diving and kicking out. Kroos and Modric will control the midfield and push Henderson and Milner further back and if Casimero plays then Fermino doesn't get near the box. That leaves the rest of the Madrid team to play their game. Now tell me, how are this Liverpool team going to set up and what's their plan to stop Madrid players executing theirs?
I sure hope you’re right but don’t underestimate what a big dollop of jammy luck can do against logic
They deserve to be there but let's not pretend that every knockout game was amazing. It was basically group stage games all the way to the final with a lot of fecking luck sprinkled on top.
How big a cringe are all the people saying ronaldo should “do it for united”. As always, he’ll do it for himself. Winning and losing this game will be the difference between him winning the ballon d’or again or not (assuming Argentina don’t win the WC).
Because they forced us to, it wasn't by choice
We have a significant edge over liverpool in terms of talent, experience and depth. We're very much favourites, liverpool will need to play another incredible game to beat us, whereas we don't need to be at our best to beat them. But we won't mimick Mourinho. We aren't made to play like that and liverpool quite simply isn't good enough an opponent for us to feel inferior to and worry about taking away their strengths, instead of focusing on ours
That’s the spirit, couldn’t agree more. The combined starting XI of Real Madrid and Liverpool would have 10 Madrid players and Mo Salah. Real are the significantly more talented side.
I don't. I've always believed you need a huge amount of luck to win this competition. Clear penalties and goals not given and no suspensions when there should have been. But Madrid have had a massive amount of look also. What annoys me is that the Madrid fans I've spoken to have been not banked on winning this year but are content with how it's panned out. My Liverpool supporting family and friends have been shouting how they are winning it since the 1st half of the city game. Look at that video of Carragher last night. Liverpool aren't even the best team in England never mind Europe. This will be a bigger test of Liverpool then it will of Real.
Deserved it? If VAR existed I doubt they would have made it past City let alone Roma. Both teams got robbed.
Seriously? That's ridiculous. That means half the capacity will be made up by sponsors?
Liverpool are going to win it, aren’t they? Ugh. They haven’t had the toughest opposition but they completely dismantled the hardest opponent they faced. Madrid always seem to find a way, sure, but I haven’t been impressed by them in the knockout stages. Feel they’re going to come unstuck. If Liverpool come out firing, Madrid won’t know what hit them. I’m just hoping the occasion gets to Liverpool and they bottle it.
Can’t disagree with any of that and I hope you’re right
I guess I’m not as confident with this RM team to get the job done. Cut out the supply to Ronnie and he’s redundant. Stop Marcelo and panick sets in
Hard to predict the outcome of this now, but it'll be interesting to see how Liverpool approach their remaining league games. They need 4 points (?) from 2 games to guarantee top 4, but are working with a fairly threadbare squad. Do they keep going with their first team options and risk injuries, or do they primarily focus on the final and rest players?
I can see them playing their attacking options from now until the end, but I wouldn't be surprised if they try and preserve their midfield as best they can. If, for instance, either Milner or Henderson ended up missing the final they'd be in serious trouble coming up against the likes of Kroos and Modric. They've got Chelsea next (need to beat Liverpool) then Brighton who could need something from the final day to guarantee survival. They've got a much tougher run in to the final than Madrid who can, theoretically, just put all their attention on the final. They won't what with having to play Barca, but they also have greater depth in their squad to deal with potential injuries.
That said, there does seem to be an air of inevitability about Liverpool's run. Having to field a rough and ready midfield for it would just add to the narrative.
I can see them playing their attacking options from now until the end, but I wouldn't be surprised if they try and preserve their midfield as best they can. If, for instance, either Milner or Henderson ended up missing the final they'd be in serious trouble coming up against the likes of Kroos and Modric. They've got Chelsea next (need to beat Liverpool) then Brighton who could need something from the final day to guarantee survival. They've got a much tougher run in to the final than Madrid who can, theoretically, just put all their attention on the final. They won't what with having to play Barca, but they also have greater depth in their squad to deal with potential injuries.
That said, there does seem to be an air of inevitability about Liverpool's run. Having to field a rough and ready midfield for it would just add to the narrative.
It's always like this, it's mental
Yep, you’re the only one. Shoulda been kicked out after the City bus attack. Morons.
Hopefully they’ll get a ban at the end of the season or not even qualify.
After they’ve lost heavily in the final.
Agree with you there - not that I for one second thought or inferred you’d go defensive. I just meant, I don’t see you putting your defensive line on the halfway line to allow pool to run in behind you. That’s when they’re at their most dangerous.
If Gareth Bale scores the winner, I could live with Ed wasting a load of money on him in the summer.
A draw against Chelsea or a win against Brighton will be enough for top 4 barring a huge goal difference swing. Can see us going full strength in both games, even if we draw or beat Chelsea and the Brighton game becomes a dead rubber. Reason being that the Chelsea game is 3 weeks before the final which could potentially be a bit long in terms of maintaining match sharpness.
I assume they will go all out from the first minute. Their intensity and pressing can cause even best team on the back foot (Kroos and Modric struggled in some games when being pressed). That said, it's not sustainable and the more the match goes on Madrid quality should prevail. So, basically, I think Liverpool will hope they can get an advantage in first 30 minutes or so. Real shouldn't underestimate them, but over 90 minutes they have an advantage.
But we will if we can. We are going to press them and the longer we can keep them pinned back deep in their own half the better. Ideally we'd like to have 100% of possession. We are much much much better with the ball than without it.
The only way Liverpool end up posing a consistent threat to you is if you line up like that. You want to make this as cagey a game as possible, reliant on moments from your best players. A little bit like how we lined up against them at OT, if you simply nullify the space for them to exploit they instantly become less of a threat due to their quality being so top heavy. That's not to say you can't keep the ball, it'd be mad for you not to given the players you have in the middle of the park in contrast to them. Just don't push your defensive line up, Klopp will be praying you do this.
Even better, if he does score the winner, the less chance there is of them letting him go.
Thanks giorno. With all honest, probably the 2 teams I least wanted in the final, along with city. But oh well....hala Madrid!
Lots of goals. But let's be real here.... This is Real's competition.
Real win by 2 goals.
Real win by 2 goals.
We don't want to do that because we're bad at it and liverpool are the faster, more physical team. We are not United, we're not built to keep things tight and cagey, we are built to pummel teams into submission via prolonged possession and slow ever-increasing pressure on their defence. We are at our best when we pin teams back deep into their box for 10-15 minutes straight and start picking them apart. Or when we manage to play through a high pressing line and create 5-6 men attacking transitions
We are pretty bad at defending our box, we're dreadful at defending the wings and outright inept at tracking runs into the half spaces. We're not going to win duels in midfield, we're not going to control the second balls and 50/50 balls, those are all things we are bad at
We are not United. We won't play like United. We can't play like United
Fair fecks to the Scum for getting to the final (and unfortunately I see them winning) but the media fawning is the pits.
They're lauding last night as being 'brilliant and unstoppable'.......uhhhh.......they lost 4-2 to a pretty rubbish team, and should have given away two more penalties. One more, if the penalty given is wiped out for being a poor decision.
So they could have lost 5-2 and gone to extra-time looking exhausted.
Nothing unstoppable and brilliant about last night's performance, whatsoever.
They're lauding last night as being 'brilliant and unstoppable'.......uhhhh.......they lost 4-2 to a pretty rubbish team, and should have given away two more penalties. One more, if the penalty given is wiped out for being a poor decision.
So they could have lost 5-2 and gone to extra-time looking exhausted.
Nothing unstoppable and brilliant about last night's performance, whatsoever.
I am so jealous of them - cant lie.
I hope they lose of course.
I hope they lose of course.
Win/loss ratio in Champions League and European Cup finals (of past winners with 3 or more final apps):
Real Madrid (4)
Liverpool (2.5)
Ajax (2)
AC Milan (1.75)
Barca (1.6)
Manchester United (1.5)
Inter Milan (1.5)
Bayern Munich (1)
Benfica (0.4)
Juventus (0.3)
Real Madrid (4)
Liverpool (2.5)
Ajax (2)
AC Milan (1.75)
Barca (1.6)
Manchester United (1.5)
Inter Milan (1.5)
Bayern Munich (1)
Benfica (0.4)
Juventus (0.3)
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