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I still say that Barcelona team was the greatest club side I've seen, despite this Madrid side's success.
What say ye?
What say ye?
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Yeah Barca were better overall. Liverpool would have looked like idiots chasing that team around the pitch tonight.I still say that Barcelona team was the greatest club side I've seen, despite this Madrid side's success.
What say ye?
Achievement this Madrid team trumped that Barcelona team. 3 consecutive wiiu is something else.Achievements wise they're very comparable but Barca played better and more dominant football.
Can't disagree. They also won a league title, a cup and several other minor trophies. They're both up there as some of the best in history, but football wise I think Barca played better on the eye.Achievement this Madrid team trumped that Barcelona team. 3 consecutive wiiu is something else.
Yep another good point. Bizarre considering how dominant they are in europe they don't really care about winning La Liga much. Even when they won it last year they got fortunate Barca blew up in Malaga to let them in.Considering a weaker Barca team can beat this Madrid team on a regular basis, the conclusion is easy
agreedI still say that Barcelona team was the greatest club side I've seen, despite this Madrid side's success.
What say ye?
Reducing it to purely trophies is silly though. Were Barca 2008/09 a better team than Barca 2010/11, just because one won the Spanish Cup?Barcelona looked more dominant but Madrid achieved more and that's what actually matters.
Probably our treble winning side. Bayern and Barca in the same group. Inter -> Juve -> Bayern in the final.This Madrid side are talented individuals pushing through with a dressing room brimmed with leaders and winners who get results. Barcelona were a unit who’d win games by stamping their football into a side.
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Has there been a tougher run-in to a CL final than what Madrid just went through this season?
PSG -> Juventus -> Bayern -> Liverpool
They’re absolute freaks in the CL.
Pep's Barca 14 trophies, Madrid under Zidane - 9 trophies.Pep's Barcelona won 3 leagues and 2 CLs in 4 years. Zidane's Madrid won 3 CLs and 1 league title in 3 years but in the first year he came in in the middle of the season when the league was pretty much over already.
Barcelona looked more dominant but Madrid achieved more and that's what actually matters.
They should have dominated Inter instead. Barcelona were better and had better players all over the pitch but Madrid accomplished more.Pep's Barca 14 trophies, Madrid under Zidane - 9 trophies.
But it's nonsensical to disregard style. Barca 09/11 would dominate this Madrid team for fun.
I suspect you're not a big fan of Pep, you should post moreLuis Enrique broke Pep' records, and basically every coach that taken over Barcelona has won at least 1-2 titles (except Tata martino). It says more about the players and generation of Barca than Pep.
What Pep has done: ruined Bayern's golden generation, after 6 goals let in vs real, several goals let in vs Barcelona, lost vs Atletico, 8 goals let in vs Monaco, broke the market last summer with city, yet lost both times vs Liverpool, lectured people about how to be fair play and treat the refs, has not reached a better success than someone like Pellegrini despite better squad, outpspended everyone in Europe, etc. Yeah, sure, "what a manager". The guy became somebody thanks to Puyol, Dani Alves, Iniesta, Xavi, and Messi. He has been protected by media ever since, from being called the fraud that he is.
Zidane on the other hand. Well, real madrid don't even have to play well, and still reign Europe.
But the Barcelona side that Pep had the privilege to coach? The 2009 and 2011 squad are better than this Madrid side, because those barca squads are better and because barca would be ready to do anything to win, i.e. get dirty and put the referee pressuring and systematically diving into play.
Zidane has only been there for 2 and half seasons compared to 4 season Pep spent there. Also, the Madrid team in 09/10 was not at the level of current Madrid side. It's absolutely stacked with quality in every position. It's nonsensical to suggest this Madrid team would get dominated by that Barca side.Pep's Barca 14 trophies, Madrid under Zidane - 9 trophies.
But it's nonsensical to disregard style. Barca 09/11 would dominate this Madrid team for fun.