What changing and chopping? Marcelo, Ramos, Modric and Ronaldo are their 4 best players, their old players are still their best players. It will take a while before they outright replace them.They might bring in a sacrificial goat as manager to do the chopping and changing that needs to be done, before they fire him and go for Poch later on?
I actually think he would make a success of himself over there. Just unsure as to whether he could handle the increased levels of expectation that comes with managing a huge club like Real Madrid, compared to what he has become accustomed at Liverpool I mean. The fans won't stand for his neverending line of excuses that's for sure.Can't see Klopp going.
Imagine Real Madrid getting turned down by two separate managers in the same window. Perez won't like that one bitOk i understand that this is a United forum so normally the posters want to see their biggest rivals suffer but come on now..There is no chance of Klopp going to Madrid. Not now for obvious reasons (he just signed Fabinho ffs) and i honestly think not never. Klopp himself has said during his Dortmund days that he cant see himself managing team like Real ever.
Bit less pressure managing a team whose last major trophy was won when Michael Jackson was still alive, than following in the footsteps of a man who just win 3 on the trotOk i understand that this is a United forum so normally the posters want to see their biggest rivals suffer but come on now..There is no chance of Klopp going to Madrid. Not now for obvious reasons (he just signed Fabinho ffs) and i honestly think not never. Klopp himself has said during his Dortmund days that he cant see himself managing team like Real ever.
I think it would be a bit of a gamble. Klopp's entire philosophy relies on every player following his instructions with fervor and it's not that easy for him to compromise. Guardiola potentially has the same problem, but given his reputation he can just axe anyone who doesn't toe the line. But what would Klopp do at Real when one of the stars isn't capable or willing to follow his instructions? Or when they have a slow start, because it takes time to master his football?I actually think he would make a success of himself over there. Just unsure as to whether he could handle the increased levels of expectation that comes with managing a huge club like Real Madrid, compared to what he has become accustomed at Liverpool I mean. The fans won't stand for his neverending line of excuses that's for sure.
I think that Allegri is also unavailable now. There is no reason for him to leave Juventus..Imagine Real Madrid getting turned down by two separate managers in the same window. Perez won't like that one bit
Managing Real Madrid seems like a pretty good reasonI think that Allegri is also unavailable now. There is no reason for him to leave Juventus..
Klopp revels in being the scruffy and plucky underdog, plus the **** like atmosphere around Liverpool suits him to a tee. No real pressure for trophies also suits him.I think it would be a bit of a gamble. Klopp's entire philosophy relies on every player following his instructions with fervor and it's not that easy for him to compromise. Guardiola potentially has the same problem, but given his reputation he can just axe anyone who doesn't toe the line. But what would Klopp do at Real when one of the stars isn't capable or willing to follow his instructions? Or when they have a slow start, because it takes time to master his football?
I think Klopp is smart enough to understand this and it makes him probably value the mixture of financial backing and authority he has at Liverpool.
post hoc, ergo propter hocAs I posted yesterday from elsewhere, Madrid approached Spurs and Poch and were very firmly told thanks but no thanks.
No surprise now to see it hitting the mainstream media that Madrid have 'ended their pursuit' for Poch.
Great news for Spurs to have their manager turn down Madrid. Let's be honest, if Poch had said to Levy "let me go" Levy would have had to strike a deal.
A great sign to the squad at Spurs also when your manager does that. A massive sign of Poch's commitment.
Raúl can´t, he still need another title to train Madrid. Seedorf was a disaster in DeportivoI think that Allegri is also unavailable now. There is no reason for him to leave Juventus..
That leaves Real with Sarri or Wenger or some unproven their former player.. Guti, Raul..why not Seedorf..
Absolutely spot onKlopp revels in being the scruffy and plucky underdog, plus the **** like atmosphere around Liverpool suits him to a tee. No real pressure for trophies also suits him.
He wouldn't like the constant scrutiny of the RM job.
Cue the fastest turnaround in football history after Perez literally begs Zizou to return.I think that Allegri is also unavailable now. There is no reason for him to leave Juventus..
That leaves Real with Sarri or Wenger or some unproven their former player.. Guti, Raul..why not Seedorf..
Real fans are notoriously impatient when it comes to their manager and they are not afraid to voice their discontent either. Klopp is yet to experience anything close to that level of pressure, Dortmund and Liverpool fans are relatively tame by comparison.I think it would be a bit of a gamble. Klopp's entire philosophy relies on every player following his instructions with fervor and it's not that easy for him to compromise. Guardiola potentially has the same problem, but given his reputation he can just axe anyone who doesn't toe the line. But what would Klopp do at Real when one of the stars isn't capable or willing to follow his instructions? Or when they have a slow start, because it takes time to master his football?
I think Klopp is smart enough to understand this and it makes him probably value the mixture of financial backing and authority he has at Liverpool.
problem is Levy bitesCastles says Poch wants the job.
Castles knows nothing.problem is Levy bites
Wouldn't be a big issue so long as the results are goodKlopp is too..How do I put this mmmh..’unprofessional’ for a big club like RM. he comes across as a bit of a clown, I don’t think his personality would go down well, whereas at Liverpool he’s Robin Hood ain’t he
Why?I think about Allegri and makes me want to yawn. Nor do I have special interest in the personality and character of Klopp(although he is the favorite in some polls) or Conte. Conte would be like Benítez. I imagine Ramos going to protest to Florentino to sack him. I do not include Sarri among the candidates because I would bet that half of the socios do not know who he is.
Today there is an article in AS saying that 19 of the 23 titles of Florentino have been won by "soft" coaches, Del Bosque, Ancelotti and Zidane, so I doubt of coaches with a thousand tactical ideas and desire to change everything, although on the other hand I liked Pochettino, probably because of his past in la liga.
As @giorno says, the players have to be challenged, but I think it has to be the board the one making the difficult decisions, not let the coach take them
Could you imagine him getting the players to clap the fans after a 2-2 against Leganes?Klopp is too..How do I put this mmmh..’unprofessional’ for a big club like RM. he comes across as a bit of a clown, I don’t think his personality would go down well, whereas at Liverpool he’s Robin Hood ain’t he
CringeCould you imagine him getting the players to clap the fans after a 2-2 against Leganes?
Pure resultadista. Even juventus fans only tolerate him because he gets resultsWhy?
Don't be ridiculous. A contract doesn't stop a manager leaving if they actually want to - for the simple reason that no club will want to force a manager to stay if they want out.Poch is really regretting renewing his contract with Spurs that early isn't he ? I bet he thinks he was really stupid now.
What Giorno said. He seems a good manager of elite groups, with curriculum and Italian, the typical coach that Florentino likes, but his football is nothing special. Maybe in an emergency time he would be my first choiceWhy?
who would you like?@carvajal what i mean is the players, they need something new, something completely different from Zidane. A coach bringing in new methods, and ideas, and the right personality to know how to lit a fire under their asses. Someone who'd give them a new challenge(without alienating them like Benitez did. This is why i agree Conte wouldn't work, though he's more Mourinho than Benitez -Mou would go the same way if he took the job now btw-)
Pure resultadista. Even juventus fans only tolerate him because he gets results
But this group of players won too much in the last few years. At this point they play for legacy, and for that results aren't enough anymore, how those results are achieved will be just as important
That's not true. If you sack the manager the contract is still valid. Any club interested would still have to negotiate with you to terminate the contract. For you, it just means you'd be paying two managers, one of whom you're paying to sit on his couchDon't be ridiculous. A contract doesn't stop a manager leaving if they actually want to - for the simple reason that no club will want to force a manager to stay if they want out.
The simple truth is that Pochettino turned his back on the RM job because he prefers to stay at Spurs.
Yeah, but so far all of the tactical and systematic coaches in the Perez era were defensive minded... If Real appoint Sarri they will have an offensive tactician. The positional play of Sarri's teams is the closest we can get from the original idea of Cruyff (more than Guardiola). Add to that the biggest influence of Sarri's ideas is not Cruyff but Arrigo Sacchi... If it works it can be really scary for the rest of the elite teams lolI think about Allegri and makes me want to yawn. I do not have special interest in the personality and character of Klopp(although he is the favorite in some polls) or Conte. Conte would be like Benítez. I imagine Ramos going to protest to Florentino to sack him. I do not include Sarri among the candidates because I would bet that half of the socios do not know who he is.
Today there is an article in AS saying that 19 of the 23 titles of Florentino have been won by "soft" coaches, Del Bosque, Ancelotti and Zidane, so I doubt of coaches with a thousand tactical ideas and desire to change everything, although on the other hand I liked Pochettino, probably because of his past in la liga.
As @giorno says, the players have to be challenged, but I think it has to be the board the one making the difficult decisions, not let the coach take them