Will any of these 4 and James Wiison be playing in the first team next season?
Axel Tuanzebe, Andreas Pereira, Cameron Borthwick-Jackson and Timothy Fosu-Mensah
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Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
Maybe Tuanzebe and/or TFM. Not the others though.
James Wilson is a definite no. Injuries killed that dream a wee while back unfortunately.
Tuanzebe I imagine will go out on loan again, hopefully PL side.
Pereira will be sold. I think he's slightly over-rated on here. I like him, but not half as good people make out him to be.
Borthwick-Jackson will be sold.
Fosu-Mensah will be in squad. I hope.
Reckon I have more or less got these bang on.
Tuanzebe I imagine will go out on loan again, hopefully PL side.
Pereira will be sold. I think he's slightly over-rated on here. I like him, but not half as good people make out him to be.
Borthwick-Jackson will be sold.
Fosu-Mensah will be in squad. I hope.
Reckon I have more or less got these bang on.
CBJ and Wilson aren't good enough. TFM couldn't hold down a place at Palace, he's not ready yet. Tuanzebe and Periera are good enough for a squad role. The former is only 20 so we dont need to rush him into the side. If AP remains committed I can see him getting time off the bench, in cups and starting against lesser sides.
I'd love to see a few of them make the step up, but we have to be realistic. I'd be surprised if they get more than ten appearances between them all season.
Axel, TFM and AP should but who the heck knows will they, hell maybe even CBJ
I think AP might have blown his chance with Mourinho when he went out on loan. I think CBJ and Wilson will be sold. TFM might be used in the squad as a utility player for cover, but can see him going on loan again. Tuanzebe another loan, hopefully to a PL team where he gets to play regularly.
Tuanzebe : Loan.
Pereira : Sold.
CBJ : Sold ( is he really still here ? )
TFM : Stay as a backup.
Pereira : Sold.
CBJ : Sold ( is he really still here ? )
TFM : Stay as a backup.
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CBJ lol no he'll be shipped off asap
No. If true that were signing Dalot a 19 year old RB possible also as LB, where does that leave TFM who didnt get into the palace side much. Pereira is an average player and were after 2 CM anyway according to Mourinho, so added to Pogba Matic and Herrera he wont get a chance. CBJ not good enough. Wilsons time has come and gone, Rashford and Martial are in front of him and they cant get a starting place. Tuanzebe is probably the most talented, but is he going to get in front of (if not sold) Bailly Jones Smalling Rojo Lindelof and maybe Alderweirald?
Thought CBJ did well when he had a stint in the team. Was really impressed with his crossing and seemed comfortable on the ball although a bit lightweight.
CBJ can't get in the Leeds or Wolves side (made 7 appearances in 2 seasons) and you think he should be considered for our squad next season?
I'd send Axel and TFM on loan and sell the rest.
No. I'd like Pereira to stay and probably another loan for Fosu-Mensah and Tuanzebe, can't see any of them featuring though.
Dunno why you jumping, i said maybe, never made it sound like he should be in 100%, on other side when Darmian was and got decent amount of minutes then gates are open for everyone.
Agree with Tuanzebe, CBJ and TFM. Not sure about Pereira, hard to know what will happen with him. I expect he'll talk to Mourinho to decide how many games he'd actually get here, and it it's too low he'll ask to leave and Mourinho will let him go.
Who is jumping? I said 'considered'.
I think he'll prefer playing in Spain at the end. The league seems to suit him there and he can always get an offer at a good team there after 2 good loans. I hope he stays, but he's one of those players I don't see much future for him with us unfortunately.
He's a bit of a myth around these parts.
It's odd isn't it?
CBJ never had a chance when Mourinho arrived, but with hindsight he probably wasn't good enough either. Still can't help but think fondly about his appearances under LvG, where I thought he looked a fantastic prospect. Defensively assured, composed and with a good cross.
I also don't see Tuanzebe and Fosu-Mensah having any real chance of being integrated into the first team by Mourinho. Pereira will probably get a couple of appearances if he doesn't force a move before the window shuts.
I also don't see Tuanzebe and Fosu-Mensah having any real chance of being integrated into the first team by Mourinho. Pereira will probably get a couple of appearances if he doesn't force a move before the window shuts.
Pereira - either sold or squad option.
TFM - either sold or out on loan again.
CBJ - sell please
Taunzebe - out on loan again. Didn't become a regular at Villa, needs game time to develop.
Mitchell - if we sell Shaw ought to be backup LB.
TFM - either sold or out on loan again.
CBJ - sell please
Taunzebe - out on loan again. Didn't become a regular at Villa, needs game time to develop.
Mitchell - if we sell Shaw ought to be backup LB.
They'll all be sold and replaced with 29 year olds
Wilson had about one good season in reserves/youth team. I usually like our youth but never quite understood why people defended him so much, he hardly showed anything much than 1 good season at youth level, let alone later.
Rated CBJ though, I think his performances for our first team were excellent and can't understand why he wasn't given more chances or why he didn't impress too much on loan.
Rated CBJ though, I think his performances for our first team were excellent and can't understand why he wasn't given more chances or why he didn't impress too much on loan.
His performances for our first team under van Gaal were better than anything any of our fullbacks did this year. Surprised it went bit downhill from then, maybe it was just few lucky months, but he definitely had excellent games from us even as youth player coming into a team.
Tuanzebe us the best player of this bunch. Don't if any of them will be much involved in the first team next season though. PL loans for TFM, Axel and Pereira would be ideal imo. Other two can go.
You're talking complete bollocks.
Can’t see it myself with any of them.
In fairness to Mourinho, why would you risk it if you had the option of bringing someone in and the board back the spend?
In fairness to Mourinho, why would you risk it if you had the option of bringing someone in and the board back the spend?
CBJ is such a fecking weird case, he looked such a threat at crossing when LVG brought him in and a real talent overall. But with not being able to get into Championship sides, I guess his general ability is pretty poor.
Yeah same old bollocks with Wilson, the people who say they never rated him clearly didn't watch any reserve team football when he was around. He was one of the best talents I've ever seen at youth level. Fantastic player.
It's not that weird to be honest - he simply didn't get the chance again . He hasn't really 'failed' at United; he simply failed over on loan. He looked a real threat under a team who had the ball at their feet & he added an element of pace & directness when doing so both with his dribbling & crossing.
Him failing over at the championship where they play football more differently - especially considering he seemed much more a wingback than a fullback probably halted him. For me it's no difference to Rashford struggling currently - people can doubt his personal ability all they want, but play football on the floor & play a combination of possession, positioning & positivity; players like him will be much more deadly.
Though chances are slim - i still do hope a system comes back that resembles that - where we are the bosses of our own game & style. If that does happen & for whatever random reason CBJ gets a chance after an injury - he has more of a chance of impressing then rather than on the back foot.
By some random chance next year January we might be seeing Giggs as a manager or our new assistant manager who is much likely to utilise CBJ
Loan or sell with a buyback clause for Tuanzebe, TFM and Pereira.
And they need to go to a place where they will play week in week out.
And they need to go to a place where they will play week in week out.
Think Pereira could surprise a few next season. I think he’ll get opportunities, hopefully enough to keep him happy.
I think Pereira has some attributes that we don't have now in the squad, he is one of the best crossers in the squad IMO.
Pereira - Sell him, he blew it, and didn't really impress at Valencia.
Tuanzebe - Back on loan to Villa to replace Terry perhaps.
CBJ, TFM - Dunno lol.
Tuanzebe - Back on loan to Villa to replace Terry perhaps.
CBJ, TFM - Dunno lol.
The answer will nearly always be no. Its so rare that youth products have enough for a club of our stature even if we do all get excited year after year.
I'd like to see TFM get matches at DM in preseason as I feel that is his best position. Matic can't play more than 1 match a week and stay sharp. Tuanzebe needs a loan where he can start at CB. Mitchell might be the best natural left back in the team right now (scary). Pereira wants to play in attack and Mourinho wants him to play midfield. I don't think that's going to work. Wilson and CBJ, good as gone.
It will be interesting to see if Lee O'Connor and Tahith Chong play in U-23 second division next season or go on loan to a team that will play them a lot.
It will be interesting to see if Lee O'Connor and Tahith Chong play in U-23 second division next season or go on loan to a team that will play them a lot.
They will play with the u23s.
I'd like to see TFM play some games at RB. He can be no less productive than Valencia right now. He's still a little raw, but physically he's immense, great tackler, ridiculous pace, looks comfortable on the ball, and he has a reasonable understanding of the premier league now. With left back being more of a priority than right back, it would make sense to give TFM some chances this coming season and go all out and get a top quality left back. It's an added benefit that he can play centre back and midfield (though I don't know if he's played in midfield for the first team, here or at Palace?).
Tuanzebe probably needs another loan, where he'll play at CB as often as possible, which is easier said than done.
No idea about Pereira, and I don't think CBJ is good enough. Good crosser, but he looks too slow to be a full back, and too lightweight to be a centre back. I don't know where he'll end up long term or what his level is.
Tuanzebe probably needs another loan, where he'll play at CB as often as possible, which is easier said than done.
No idea about Pereira, and I don't think CBJ is good enough. Good crosser, but he looks too slow to be a full back, and too lightweight to be a centre back. I don't know where he'll end up long term or what his level is.
Would agree.