Can't see Klopp going.
Next Real Madrid manager | Glaston has a shocker
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What changing and chopping? Marcelo, Ramos, Modric and Ronaldo are their 4 best players, their old players are still their best players. It will take a while before they outright replace them.
They need someone that can rotate them and that can bring motivation to a squad that's won it all. I'd be very surprised if it's anyone other than Allegri.
Looks like Zidane throughly fecked Real with the timing of his decision. I'd be very surprised if they would be able to get Klopp, as he always went on about the importance of contracts. If Real came asking somewhere before the end of last season then maybe he'd leave it to the clubs to agree terms, but I neither see him try to force a move nor can I see Liverpool (or any big club) letting their coach leave at this point, when they probably already put a lot of work into their strategic approach for next season or in the case of Liverpool already finalized some signings who were lured with the prospect of being trained by Klopp.
I'd rather Klopp get targeted. Spurs have peaked under Pochettino, the same can't be said for Liverpool and Klopp.
I actually think he would make a success of himself over there. Just unsure as to whether he could handle the increased levels of expectation that comes with managing a huge club like Real Madrid, compared to what he has become accustomed at Liverpool I mean. The fans won't stand for his neverending line of excuses that's for sure.
As I posted yesterday from elsewhere, Madrid approached Spurs and Poch and were very firmly told thanks but no thanks.
No surprise now to see it hitting the mainstream media that Madrid have 'ended their pursuit' for Poch.
Great news for Spurs to have their manager turn down Madrid. Let's be honest, if Poch had said to Levy "let me go" Levy would have had to strike a deal.
A great sign to the squad at Spurs also when your manager does that. A massive sign of Poch's commitment.
No surprise now to see it hitting the mainstream media that Madrid have 'ended their pursuit' for Poch.
Great news for Spurs to have their manager turn down Madrid. Let's be honest, if Poch had said to Levy "let me go" Levy would have had to strike a deal.
A great sign to the squad at Spurs also when your manager does that. A massive sign of Poch's commitment.
Ok i understand that this is a United forum so normally the posters want to see their biggest rivals suffer but come on now..There is no chance of Klopp going to Madrid. Not now for obvious reasons (he just signed Fabinho ffs) and i honestly think not never. Klopp himself has said during his Dortmund days that he cant see himself managing team like Real ever.
Imagine Real Madrid getting turned down by two separate managers in the same window. Perez won't like that one bit
Bit less pressure managing a team whose last major trophy was won when Michael Jackson was still alive, than following in the footsteps of a man who just win 3 on the trot
I think Allegri would be quite a good fit for them. Conte back to Juve.
I think it would be a bit of a gamble. Klopp's entire philosophy relies on every player following his instructions with fervor and it's not that easy for him to compromise. Guardiola potentially has the same problem, but given his reputation he can just axe anyone who doesn't toe the line. But what would Klopp do at Real when one of the stars isn't capable or willing to follow his instructions? Or when they have a slow start, because it takes time to master his football?
I think Klopp is smart enough to understand this and it makes him probably value the mixture of financial backing and authority he has at Liverpool.
I think that Allegri is also unavailable now. There is no reason for him to leave Juventus..Imagine Real Madrid getting turned down by two separate managers in the same window. Perez won't like that one bit
That leaves Real with Sarri or Wenger or some unproven their former player.. Guti, Raul..why not Seedorf..
Managing Real Madrid seems like a pretty good reason
Klopp revels in being the scruffy and plucky underdog, plus the **** like atmosphere around Liverpool suits him to a tee. No real pressure for trophies also suits him.
He wouldn't like the constant scrutiny of the RM job.
post hoc, ergo propter hoc
If Pochettino doesn't accept the possibility of being the new coach, there is no point in suggesting him as the #1 candidate. The problem is Levy, not Pochettino. Or Levy AND Pochettino rebelling, which is a different matter.
Raúl can´t, he still need another title to train Madrid. Seedorf was a disaster in Deportivo
Fair play to Spurs if they have knocked back Madrid and aren’t going to let him leave this summer. Pochettino was happy to sign a new deal last week, so even if he did fancy getting out now, who gives a shit? He’d be putting them in a tricky spot at this stage of the summer, so they don’t owe him anything (unless, of course, there is a clause).
Absolutely spot on
Will be be a tough job, and you could see why established top managers would think twice, there's the looming issue with the forward line, alot of egos to appease, and after the rookie Zidane did what he did, then unless they do extraordinarily well the only way is down, can see them having to go for Guti myself.
Cue the fastest turnaround in football history after Perez literally begs Zizou to return.
Zidane 2.0 the uncut version.
If we somehow end up begging Zizou to change his mind i reckon we'd change 3/4 or the team too
Allegri in a vacuum looks tailor made to succeed with us, but the circumstances aren't right. We need something new, a manager that challenges the players rather than adapting to them
Allegri in a vacuum looks tailor made to succeed with us, but the circumstances aren't right. We need something new, a manager that challenges the players rather than adapting to them
Castles says Poch wants the job.
Real fans are notoriously impatient when it comes to their manager and they are not afraid to voice their discontent either. Klopp is yet to experience anything close to that level of pressure, Dortmund and Liverpool fans are relatively tame by comparison.
Then again he has to make the step up to the big leagues eventually. Getting the chance to manage at the pinnacle of your chosen profession is something most of us never get to experience in our lifetimes. Should he turn Real down now, he may find that window of opportunity permanently shut. Same goes for Poch.
problem is Levy bites
Castles knows nothing.
Poch doesn't want to leave Spurs. Spurs have just signed three of its key players up to new long term deals. Not yet been made public but it will very soon.
Madrid are saving face by saying that it's because Levy is a tough negotiator but since when has that ever stopped Madrid before? The real truth is Poch has turned them down for the present time. Its not the right time for him.
Klopp is too..How do I put this mmmh..’unprofessional’ for a big club like RM. he comes across as a bit of a clown, I don’t think his personality would go down well, whereas at Liverpool he’s Robin Hood ain’t he
I think about Allegri and makes me want to yawn. I do not have special interest in the personality and character of Klopp(although he is the favorite in some polls) or Conte. Conte would be like Benítez. I imagine Ramos going to protest to Florentino to sack him. I do not include Sarri among the candidates because I would bet that half of the socios do not know who he is.
Today there is an article in AS saying that 19 of the 23 titles of Florentino have been won by "soft" coaches, Del Bosque, Ancelotti and Zidane, so I doubt of coaches with a thousand tactical ideas and desire to change everything, although on the other hand I liked Pochettino, probably because of his past in la liga.
As @giorno says, the players have to be challenged, but I think it has to be the board the one making the difficult decisions, not let the coach take them
Today there is an article in AS saying that 19 of the 23 titles of Florentino have been won by "soft" coaches, Del Bosque, Ancelotti and Zidane, so I doubt of coaches with a thousand tactical ideas and desire to change everything, although on the other hand I liked Pochettino, probably because of his past in la liga.
As @giorno says, the players have to be challenged, but I think it has to be the board the one making the difficult decisions, not let the coach take them
Wouldn't be a big issue so long as the results are good
But he's impossible, like Poch. It's the same story, even if he's interested in the job, his club has no interest in letting him go. We're not gonna pay something silly like £30m just to buy a manager
Why?
Does Klopp speak Spanish?
Could you imagine him getting the players to clap the fans after a 2-2 against Leganes?
Cringe
@carvajal what i mean is the players, they need something new, something completely different from Zidane. A coach bringing in new methods, and ideas, and the right personality to know how to lit a fire under their asses. Someone who'd give them a new challenge(without alienating them like Benitez did. This is why i agree Conte wouldn't work, though he's more Mourinho than Benitez -Mou would go the same way if he took the job now btw-)
I never could see Pochettino going to Madrid this summer, can't see Klopp wanting to go to Madrid either especially given all his "real club" bullshit.
Pure resultadista. Even juventus fans only tolerate him because he gets results
But this group of players won too much in the last few years. At this point they play for legacy, and for that results aren't enough anymore, how those results are achieved will be just as important
Don't be ridiculous. A contract doesn't stop a manager leaving if they actually want to - for the simple reason that no club will want to force a manager to stay if they want out.
The simple truth is that Pochettino turned his back on the RM job because he prefers to stay at Spurs.
What Giorno said. He seems a good manager of elite groups, with curriculum and Italian, the typical coach that Florentino likes, but his football is nothing special. Maybe in an emergency time he would be my first choice
who would you like?
That's not true. If you sack the manager the contract is still valid. Any club interested would still have to negotiate with you to terminate the contract. For you, it just means you'd be paying two managers, one of whom you're paying to sit on his couch
Not saying this is the case with Poch, but the idea that if a manager wants to leave the club's can't do anything isn't true
Case in point: Fiorentina did just that with Montella a few years ago(and he actually had a buyout clause too, but milan weren't willing to pay it. Funnily enough Fiorentina eventually accepted considerably less money from Sampdoria to end the contract and let him go, then half a season later Montella finally got the milan job)
Yeah, but so far all of the tactical and systematic coaches in the Perez era were defensive minded... If Real appoint Sarri they will have an offensive tactician. The positional play of Sarri's teams is the closest we can get from the original idea of Cruyff (more than Guardiola). Add to that the biggest influence of Sarri's ideas is not Cruyff but Arrigo Sacchi... If it works it can be really scary for the rest of the elite teams lol