He might not be all that in France but there are no guarantees that Fekir can reach Depay heights in EPLWell, Depay isn't particularly good in France. Fékir is a far better player that's barely comparable.
He might not be all that in France but there are no guarantees that Fekir can reach Depay heights in EPLWell, Depay isn't particularly good in France. Fékir is a far better player that's barely comparable.
The second half of the season (last 3-4 months) Depay was much better, believe me, watched every match.Believe me.
He's much better.
Klopp defensive coaching will always be an issue too.Completely agree. Excellent starting 6. Just get a keeper and possibly another CB and they're in business.
Challenging for the CL will be an affirmation that what they are doing is working and a sign they should continue to invest. If however by next May they don't have anything to show for it then I feel some questions will be asked of Klopp. From an outsider's perspective, he has made all the right transfers to get them in position for a major trophy or two.Liverpool under Klopp.
Keita - £48m
Fabinho - £43m
Fekir - £48m
Mane - £32m
Van Dijk - £75m
Chamberlain - £40m
Salah - £34m
Wijnaldum - £25m
Robertson - £8m
Karius - £5m
Total - £358m
That's just the initial prices without counting some of the minor signings.
Jose in comparison:
Mkhi - £27m
Pogba - £89m
Bailly - £30m
Lindelof - £30m
Lukaku - £75m
Matic - £40m
Fred - £47m
Dalot - £19m
Total - £357m
Sure Klopp have been there for one more year, but then I didn't count Lallana and Firmino who joined in summer 2015 just three months before Klopp.
They have spent really well, but surely they must be expected to win or at least mount a serious title challenge next season?
Afterall, Jose was heavily criticized for failing to compete with City in just his second year?
Still, a lot of people here like to say ‘it’s only France’ with Memphis but what a disaster it is that Liverpool will get Fekir.Well, Depay isn't particularly good in France. Fékir is a far better player that's barely comparable.
No man for man they don't have a better squad than us. Would their starting XI be better than those we have on our bench yes obviouslyAnyone think next season, that Liverpool will for the first time since I can remember have (potentially) man-for-man a better squad than United (not necessarily the first team)? This is not an exaggeration or 'meltdown' connotation used here.
I would doubt they will start all 3 together for certainly a few months, just look at Robertson and the Ox for example. They didn't start games initially, but after they got used to the klopp system - they came in and did well.Excellent signing. But i can't see how three new midfielders, arguably better than anything they have got will get integrated. They might drop some points in the beginning or one of them might be benched initially.
Hey if you're happy with stretching into a 7th year without a trophy that's fine with me.Under pressure by who exactly? The owners and fans alike are extremely happy with the way things are going.
After so long without a trophy though I wouldnt blame them if they are happier currently instead to see constant improvements, constant good and entertaining football, a constant direction, a constant team spirit etc. Hopefully it isn't the case but winning something will be inevitable for them if they continue down this path, it isn't just a case of money they are spending but it's who, at one point not too long ago Liverpool signing the likes of Keita and Fekir over other bigger clubs was unthinkable but now it's a reality and seemingly great players want to go there. Hopefully Klopp does continue to fail when push comes to shove but if he can take them places like the CL final with the likes of Henderson and Milner then he should be able to do more with even better players coming in, but time will tell.Hey if you're happy with stretching into a 7th year without a trophy that's fine with me.
I'd just argue once a manager gets into his 4th season in charge and he's spending big money like Klopp now this there should be an expectation to actually win stuff.
In terms of building heights, depay was barely a bungalow in the Premier league.He might not be all that in France but there are no guarantees that Fekir can reach Depay heights in EPL
if u dont laugh you cryI'm not, but the meltdown in here is hilarious.
When did you lot turn into Spurs?Under pressure by who exactly? The owners and fans alike are extremely happy with the way things are going.
I think they sold Suarez that summer 2015, or was it the one before? Anyhow, by including that Summer you also have to include Utd's.Liverpool under Klopp.
Keita - £48m
Fabinho - £43m
Fekir - £48m
Mane - £32m
Van Dijk - £75m
Chamberlain - £40m
Salah - £34m
Wijnaldum - £25m
Robertson - £8m
Karius - £5m
Total - £358m
That's just the initial prices without counting some of the minor signings.
Jose in comparison:
Mkhi - £27m
Pogba - £89m
Bailly - £30m
Lindelof - £30m
Lukaku - £75m
Matic - £40m
Fred - £47m
Dalot - £19m
Total - £357m
Sure Klopp have been there for one more year, but then I didn't count Lallana and Firmino who joined in summer 2015 just three months before Klopp.
They have spent really well, but surely they must be expected to win or at least mount a serious title challenge next season?
Afterall, Jose was heavily criticized for failing to compete with City in just his second year?
Watched him in the Europa league.
Very good player that will do well for them. Does seem to get injured a bit spending quite a while on the ground every time I watch them.
Liverpool's attack is one of the best in the league and this cements that.
@Yagami must be gutted.
You're right but, in that period, Fekir was out injured for a bit of it and was returning to full fitness for the rest. At their respective bests, I wouldn't rate Depay as highly as Fekir, but that's just my opinion.The second half of the season (last 3-4 months) Depay was much better, believe me, watched every match.
Depay dragged Lyon to the Champions League.
Klopp will be at Munich, or managing his national squad in a year or two.I think they sold Suarez that summer 2015, or was it the one before? Anyhow, by including that Summer you also have to include Utd's.
This - he has the lowest pressure high-profile job in football.Yeah.
Klopp can probably go another 5 years with no trophies at Pool.
His great brand of football and rapport with the media helps in that regard.
I disagree, they've strengthened their midfield significantly imo. It might take them a while to gell but that front three with Fabinho, Fekir and Keita is strong as balls on paper. Whether paper fits eventual outcome is a different discussion.Klopp defensive coaching will always be an issue too.
I think people are overreacting. Liverpool can blow away anyone on their day, but there's a reason they don't consistently finish with a high points total under Klopp.
I think our attackers would do better in their system thoughLiverpool can only fluke so many forward signings. Torres, Suarez and Salah is enough high-grade fluke for the next 15-20 years at least so there’s nothing to worry about here...
That’s a different issue and I think I’ll stick another pin in the Mourinho voodoo doll to see if it will shake up his tactics. I think more balls is the appropriate approach for all concerned here...I think our attackers would do better in their system though
There are a bunch of reasons, but 3 of them have already been replaced this summer (Wijnaldum by Fekir, Milner/Can by Keita and Henderson or Clyne/Alexander-Arnold by Fabinho).Klopp defensive coaching will always be an issue too.
I think people are overreacting. Liverpool can blow away anyone on their day, but there's a reason they don't consistently finish with a high points total under Klopp.
When they didn't win any worthy trophies for the last 13 years.When did you lot turn into Spurs?
Exactly what they have not done. And 100% why they will not finish 2nd next seasonThere are a bunch of reasons, but 3 of them have already been replaced this summer (Wijnaldum by Fekir, Milner/Can by Keita and Henderson or Clyne/Alexander-Arnold by Fabinho).
If they can upgrade at keeper and find a decent CB they'll be comfortable favourites for 2nd.
Fekir gives them a quality backup for Firmino as a false 9 and a creative midfielder that's better than Lallana or Ox-Chamberlain, Keita should be their best overall midfielder in years and Fabinho is a rock solid DM who I'd take over Henderson in an instant or either of their right backs.
I think, comparing the 3rd and 4th sides this year, whereas Spurs find it tough to really improve because they haven't had major holes to fill, Liverpool are the complete opposite.
It's June the 8th mate. Please be serious.Exactly what they have not done. And 100% why they will not finish 2nd next season
You’re expecting a major keeper and CB signing to follow? Please be seriousIt's June the 8th mate. Please be serious.
Robertson was 8m. Trent Alexander Arnold is an academy product.How much did Liverpool pay for their fullbacks (Robertson and Alexander-Arnold)??
£8 million for Robertson and Arnold is from our youth system.How much did Liverpool pay for their fullbacks (Robertson and Alexander-Arnold)??
Who do you think would currently make a combined eleven?No man for man they don't have a better squad than us. Would their starting XI be better than those we have on our bench yes obviously
We most likely won't get a CB but a pacey winger and top keeper are on our agenda according to all reliable LFC journalists yes. Really not sure how it's so hard to believe we will buy a couple more players, we've only bought 2 so far this summer so do you really think it's much of a stretch us buying 2 more? We have plenty of funds so spending another £100m on a winger and goalkeeper really shouldn't be an issue.You’re expecting a major keeper and CB signing to follow? Please be serious