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Bouhafsi: Martial wants to leave United
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) was joined by comedian Ali Woods to look back at the best and worst moments of a rollercoaster season with the annual United Hour Awards.
Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
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I have no qualms against Martial. I rated him much more than Rashford and i think Rashford is overrated and average as it gets. But i annoyed by sheer amount of this Martial fanboys. So fecking annoying. You know what, if he really that talented he will easily dropped Sanchez into bench without tear a sweat. Hazard is a kin like Martial but he got played always by Mou. Your point about Mou dislike flair player is nonexist or you just ignore the fact to suited your agenda. Hell the famous lazy Ozil was prime playmaker at Real under Mou. Ozil, lazy as its gets. When your blaming everything but yourself its clearly the problems is yours. Also Martial need to fire his agent. Move to Sevilla barely screaming a worldclass move.
That was kind of my point.
Even though I guessed it, I still hate seeing it. feck. Also we’re not getting Bale or Griezmann.
He was always going to leave. No way was he staying beyond this summer, unless Jose got the sack. Lets hope for a decent fee
Dimitar Berbatov being very bitter towards Alex Ferguson for being completely frozen out of a Champions League final I can understand to some extent.
We paid a massive fee and pretty much gave everything to a young Martial. He's 22 now and has had plenty of games in the last two years under Mourinho, everything indicates we would rather keep him around and he could be here for the next 5-10 years. Yet this is apparently what we get...
100% agreed on every single account.
I couldn't have said it better, myself.
The Fellaini part did make me laugh.
What position does the latter play?
Well feck!
And Stones/Bernardo Silva were in a good spell, only to be positioned to another position by a transfer halfway through the season...
If Martial was 27 and playing at the level he is then I'd agree with that, but he's 22 and is a top tier talent. If he was playing regularly, we could realistically ask for £100m+ given that both Dembele and Mbappe went for considerably more. Only way we should consider £60m is if we have a buy back option at a price not too much higher.
He would have got rid of him much earlier for bad Work Ethic and attitude, big time Charlie too big for their boots entitlement ala Ravel Morrison and Pogba.
i'm gutted about this, hate seeing young talented players leave our club
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Personally this is my favourite moment. With 20 seconds remaining... and he also set up Fellaini earlier as well.
Oh well bye. Fecking snowflakes.
I think we've moved on from Alderweireld to be honest. Spurs obviously quoted a figure that was far more than we were willing to pay to the extent it wasn't even worth haggling. Besides if Martial is leaving we need a forward to replace him as a priority now, which centre back never was really. We'd only have lukaku, sanchez, rashford, mata and lingard covering three positions.
Next summer people will talk about how swapping "past it Sanchez" or "overrated Rashford" for the newest flavor of the month will improve us so very, very much.
Rinse/repeat
Rinse/repeat
I wonder where the two parties got stuck in their negotiations.
Funny thing is that Martial's agent never mentioned anything about his player being unhappy about playing time or manager's treatment. People are just going on and on about those in here. The primary reason stated for Martial wanting out is that they have not been able to agree on a new contract that pleases the player for about 8 months. The issue is contract not Jose Mourinho's treatment.
Huh? After Ronaldo left we still reached CL final, win PL. It was after Fergie left everything going south by his masterstroke to appointed his chosen one Moyes. Are you blmaing Ronaldo or Fergie for struggling last 5 years? Or its Mou fault we placed 7 in Moyes's stint and placed 5 in LVG's? Oh Martial was best player according to many in his first season failure to get United qualified to CL right?
why do posts like this exist? i'm always shocked/surprised with the amount of redcafe posters that know our players personally and spend a substantial amount of time at the training sessions with the squad. You took it a step further and mystic meg'd what Ferguson would have done. incredible.
funny thing is Ferguson fought to keep pogba
Why are Bayern, Real Madrid or Barca not after a exciting 22yr old player with Ballon d'or potential? Martial at this moment is not ready to start for any of the top clubs and he shouldn't be starting for us rightfully so. If he does not have the patience, then good luck to him.
Nobody likes it but they have to be consistent and cement their starting places.
But the reason the agent gave is stalled contract negotiations not the manager.
My favorite player...but he can feck off now. Tiredof these players who have to be pampered all the time. We have to deal with Pogba, we have to convince De gea every season... even feckin Fellaini.
Doesn’t any one play for the shirt anymore? It seems if we opened the door for any one to leave, we will be left with only Lingard , Lukaku, a broken jones and an unwanted Shaw . I am tired now.
Doesn’t any one play for the shirt anymore? It seems if we opened the door for any one to leave, we will be left with only Lingard , Lukaku, a broken jones and an unwanted Shaw . I am tired now.
Please?. Is it that we are blind or what. What has the so called WC martial achieved for us. The 11 goals most of you are clamoring about. If i remember well. Only 3 were important. This guy doesn't fight for anything, we keep shouting he his a good dribbler. Isco is a far better dribbler and has a higher work rate. The only thing about this martial is his finishing. Great players have left us, and we kept winning trophies. And we are giving ourselves head ache over a man that has not proved anything, even to himself. You blame mou for everything?. If sanchez was not bought and our king martial scored 25 goals, do you think he would make that WC squad?. He even looks to me like someone that doesn't work hard, and just focus on natural skill sets. Tbh, all of you want mou to be gone. So if he leaves, and we get posh, is that going to solve our problem?
When we signed Van Persie we needed a top forward with Rooney considered his best in behind. But when we signed Sanchez we needed a Right winger not a left winger as left side was pretty good and ever improving already with 2 of the best young talents in the Game.
AND Van Persie actually gave output from day 1. While Sanchez has reduced the performance of our left wing from Rashford/Martial so far and still not been dropped as that would be too much of a ego hit seemingly for Mourinho and maybe the board.
Rashford/Martial had made it the stronger area in our attack and they are gonna improve only. Also bizarre thing is Sanchez wasn't even tried on the right.
Come on, have you actually read it? What do you think he means when he says "then arrived the January window"?
we need someone who can play on the right. If we play a 10, that means Pogba as a midfield two yeah? And what about Fred then?
Maybe you need to read it.
Disappointed if he wants to leave but I remember 2 years ago the brother bought his autobiography and I thought to myself 'Why a biography, he has done feck all yet besides get a financially huge move.'
Its strange but if Big Dave wanted to leave I'd be sad but would understand and wish him well at his new club. Martial, I think its a shame he won't fulfill what we say in flashes but if you dont want to play for United then - fine, go!
Its strange but if Big Dave wanted to leave I'd be sad but would understand and wish him well at his new club. Martial, I think its a shame he won't fulfill what we say in flashes but if you dont want to play for United then - fine, go!
inconsistency in young players is to be expected, i don't believe Martial got a fair treatment compared to other players when assessing game time/performances. stats seem to back this up as well.
Do you seriously believe the nonsense you’ve just written?
You’ve just put Martial, Ravel and Pogba in the same sentence and added some kind of work ethic and attitude problem with Martial? Are you drunk?
It's a fundamental underperformance as a manager at Man United if you alienate talented young footballers. The manager can still win matches and perform if he spends fortunes to buy the particular ready made players to fit his narrow gameplan. And sure that would be good in a way. I just expect more.
The argument(s) of Martial complaining are a tad distorted. Wouldnt a better question be, why shouldnt he complain? As stated previous times, Martial was hitting good form and actually scoring goals and assisting them. Has Sanchez shown that he ought to be a starter based on performances rather then his shirt name in the 6 months after?
Scholes actually went on a strike of sorts too.
https://www.google.co.in/amp/www.da...ul-Scholes-went-strike-Manchester-United.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...-unhappy-over-his-role-at-united-9241253.html
And his former did suffer pretty badly in the new role he was given behind van nistelrooy.
He was more established and sooner Saf changed Verons role for him again realizing it wasnt the fitting or dropped Verons altogether.
Scholes as I said was still much more established and well regarded at the time while martial and Rashard are still young players requiring more time playing to establish and improve themselves.
100% agree
They should all feck off.
And must people moan here.
Isco, asensio, kovacic, ceballos, are not moaning about.
Bah ceballos. He dosent even belong to this set of players.
James was on the bench for years.
Just to be clear, our 2nd top goalscorer in the league last season wants to leave. And Mourinho has said anyone who wants to leave can.
So now we need more goals and we already had a problem with them...
So now we need more goals and we already had a problem with them...
Exactly, people get too emotionally attached and think it's an attack against the club.
If in your work you were doing good, got employee of the month 3 times out of a possible 5 months, but suddenly a new employee comes in and your forgotten about/misused, would you not look at other jobs? Especially when you'd be able to find as equally a highly paid job at perhaps an even better company (Bayern, Juve etc).
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