Bouhafsi: Martial wants to leave United

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Damage control. We want maximum value we can get, so statements like this will go some way in repairing the damage his agent has done by saying he wanted out.
 

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Possibly a ploy from his agent to get a payrise judging by his agent's quotes and the club's response.

If he truly wanted to leave, then the club wouldn't have stood in his way, as per Jose earlier this season.
 

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Damage control. We want maximum value we can get, so statements like this will go some way in repairing the damage his agent has done by saying he wanted out.
The club has been briefing this exact same thing since the end of the season. I mean, you still might be right but it's not new. We're just repeating it.
 

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Go on crossy please make an educated reply to what I said step by step rather than being 'dramatic' or




Couldn't be more further from the truth - Januzaj was running on the good games he had for Moyes - did nothing for LVG & Mourinho & was rightfully sold; even though some people saw promise.

Martial has had good games before Jose mourinho when he was effectively our best player - and had good games directly under Jose's nose being arguably our 3rd best player if not 2nd on a consistent basis whilst having him adapt from being striker to left winger whilst getting replacements in that position every season.

Absolutely nothing in comparison to januzaj:lol:
I don't have to mate, you're making wild assumptions and saying things like "Martial was our best player before Mourinho" or "Some of us don't fall for his sadistic games".

You've got to be on a wind up.
 

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Honestly, so disappointed in Mourinho. Never expected him to go on and on about Fellaini and yet not give Martial a chance. He better do well this season both in style of football and in actual achievements or the OT crowd could give him an earful.
 

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Go on crossy please make an educated reply to what I said step by step rather than being 'dramatic' or




Couldn't be more further from the truth - Januzaj was running on the good games he had for Moyes - did nothing for LVG & Mourinho & was rightfully sold; even though some people saw promise.

Martial has had good games before Jose mourinho when he was effectively our best player - and had good games directly under Jose's nose being arguably our 3rd best player if not 2nd on a consistent basis whilst having him adapt from being striker to left winger whilst getting replacements in that position every season.

Absolutely nothing in comparison to januzaj:lol:
Don't think any of us were directly comparing them to what they have achieved with us. Just the example that you need mentality and talent to do well. Martial has looked stroppy at times and doesn't always bust his ass when he loses the ball. Ronaldo and Messi may not be asked to track back, but Martial sure can't.
 

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When has he ever completely given up? He's a 22 year old flair player playing in a risk-averse side and he still posts some of the best numbers in the league relative to the little minutes he's been given. He's only played 90 minutes in consecutive league games once all season. A little continuity wouldn't go amiss.

Compare that to Lukaku, for example, who endured a barren run from October to mid-December (1 goal in 9 games). He played 90 minutes in every single one of those games, despite the performances being far from great and was still given full support of the manager during that time. Some of that might come down to style of play, which is fine, but it's disingenuous to claim it all boils down to his ability to 'fight'.
Right now. He's literally given up on being a United player and fighting for his place.
 

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The club has been briefing this exact same thing since the end of the season. I mean, you still might be right but it's not new. We're just repeating it.
At some point united will make a decision though. That decision surely has to be this summer where we can get maximum coin for him. Letting him go into his last year on contract will devalue him even more.
 

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Just saw on instagram him taking a selfie with kids wearing PSG kit, all manchester united photos also removed from his profile, what a bad decision we took...
 

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That's pretty much the conclusion I'm at for now. I've never seen a player like him in the way he plays and only looks interested once somebody gives him the ball to feet. No urgency at all to his play and too little movement off the ball.

It all boils down to his attitude for me. He seems to think what he's doing is so amazing that he needn't worry about running off the ball and creating openings for others with his movement.
To be fair, I can only think of Lingard and sometimes Rashford who do make tactical runs for someone else to benefit from. And Young who I forgot initially.
We function less as a team than almost any other top club.
 

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Supremely talented player, who decides to be one dimensional. Never runs in behind, either with the ball or to receive it. Sulks rather than tracks back when a move breaks down.
While it is sad to see a skillful player leave, he makes us a man light, when defending, and slows us to a stop when attacking. Always cutting inside with no variety to his approach might cause some opponents problems, but can be easily nullified by better players or tactics.
He may have fared better with a decent left back who overlaps and crosses, but his inability to vary his approach has done nothing to strengthen his position here.
This is the hard truth. His dribbling is very easy on the eye at times, he can link up well with good awareness, and he's usually an ice-cool finisher. But he lacks any kind of dynamism or explosiveness, his long-range shooting for example is tame as feck, he doesn't really bully full-backs (although he can make them look stupid at times) or ever really dominate a game. Tends to take things easy.

Having said that it's 50-50 if Sanchez is actually the better option in there.
 

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Just saw on instagram him taking a selfie with kids wearing PSG kit, all manchester united photos also removed from his profile, what a bad decision we took...
Post it, I don't have Instagram
 

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Right now. He's literally given up on being a United player and fighting for his place.
Well, would you really blame him? He's had to fight for his place for two seasons running and isn't given the opportunities even when he plays well.

I'm not entirely convinced he will end up leaving. It could be a ploy for the club to take his concerns about game time seriously, though that is admittedly mostly based on a hunch.
 

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Just saw on instagram him taking a selfie with kids wearing PSG kit, all manchester united photos also removed from his profile, what a bad decision we took...
That's not on his instagram(I mean it's just on story which will stay for a day). So he took pics with kids who are wearing PSG kits, big deal. He would have been a cnut if he didn't take pic with kids just because they are wearing PSG kits
 

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Well, would you really blame him? He's had to fight for his place for two seasons running and isn't given the opportunities even when he plays well.

I'm not entirely convinced he will end up leaving. It could be a ploy for the club to take his concerns about game time seriously, though that is admittedly mostly based on a hunch.
It is what it is. I generally think if a player asks to leave, let them go. If it is a ploy from his agent, it's just as bad if not worse. Threatening, publicly, to leave isn't a good look when you'll have to continue to fight for your place in the team, not a fan of that tactic.
 

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Removing all his United pictures from his social media is a bit of a petty move, if he's done that to show he's moved on from the club then so be it.
Who can we replace him with? I hope we don't chase Bale like fools all summer.
EDIT: does it every year apparently.
 
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That's not on his instagram. So he took pics with kids who are wearing PSG kits, big deal. He would have been a cnut if he didn't take pic with kids just because they are wearing PSG kits
Instagram live story, but I agree, doesn't mean anything.
 

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Can we just ban calling insert players name here fan boys please. The hypocrisy within this forum is second to none. The people who call others fans boys and that we should support the club and not individuals but then you dare aim criticism at a player (or manager) they may like and you get berated for it. Its comical.
Whether you are a Martial fan or not you should not be happy with our best players wanting to leave. Some people don't rate Rashford or Pogba as much as others but they would not want them to want to leave as it will be a detriment to our club going forward. Yes if we could just hoover up equal or better replacements with unlimited funds it may be different but we cant.
I have an overall negative feeling about the club personally, I feel certain players will be looking to leave next summer if we once again, as I imagine, fail to win the league or even challenge for the CL. I think we need a brilliant transfer window this summer otherwise I see another change of manager next summer and more rebuilding etc.
 

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Removing all his United pictures from his social media is a bit of a petty move, if he's done that to show he's moved on from the club then so be it.
Who can we replace him with? I hope we don't chase Bale like fools all summer.
He does it every season.
 

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Just saw on instagram him taking a selfie with kids wearing PSG kit, all manchester united photos also removed from his profile, what a bad decision we took...
Has he removed all pictures again? I know he cleared everything off his Instagram a month or so back.
 

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Instagram live story, but I agree, doesn't mean anything.
Yeah, edit my post to include it's just live story which stays there for a day. Those 2 kids will be very happy that they got a pic with Martial.
 

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This is the hard truth. His dribbling is very easy on the eye at times, he can link up well with good awareness, and he's usually an ice-cool finisher. But he lacks any kind of dynamism or explosiveness, his long-range shooting for example is tame as feck, he doesn't really bully full-backs (although he can make them look stupid at times) or ever really dominate a game. Tends to take things easy.

Having said that it's 50-50 if Sanchez is actually the better option in there.
The only advantage Sanchez has shown so far, is his workrate and ability to win the ball back.
Totally un-inspiring, but less of a liability.
 

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The thing with Mourinho he made a big deal of renewing Fellaini's contract but hasn't uttered a word on Martial.
 

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A couple of interesting bits from his agent's statement:
Martial was "disappointed because he has shown his love for the club and the supporters for three seasons"

"I think that when United, the most powerful club in the world, do not find an agreement after eight months of negotiations then they do not really want to keep such an important player in their squad. That's why this decision has come"
Those quotes and his previous tendency to shut down rumours quickly leads me to believe he would still be open to staying if he was given the right assurances.
 

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I thought José said that if a player wanted to leave he could leave?
 

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Honestly, so disappointed in Mourinho. Never expected him to go on and on about Fellaini and yet not give Martial a chance. He better do well this season both in style of football and in actual achievements or the OT crowd could give him an earful.
Fellaini has started 7 games in all competitions for us in 17/18

Martial has started 27 games in all competitions in 17/18

Martial has been given plenty of chances. If he wants to leave it’s all on him and has nothing to do with our manager.

So many weak arguments in here. I support Manchester United (the team) and that’s the constant. Players come and they go. If Martial goes then so be it. He has a lot of talent but obvious flaws. Rewriting history and blaming others for his fault is not objective thinking at all.
 

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Honestly, so disappointed in Mourinho. Never expected him to go on and on about Fellaini and yet not give Martial a chance. He better do well this season both in style of football and in actual achievements or the OT crowd could give him an earful.
He's given him plenty of chances!
If anything Jose is consistent with this, he's dropped Pogba for the exact same reasons yet you have posters criticising Paul for not tracking back, over complicating things, not moving the ball quicker etc then run into the Martial thread to praise him for trying everything that Paul shouldn't do.
Its the dribbling disease. He and Rashford can take 2 players on, a 3rd gets a tackle in and the ball goes out for a throw.
Oh wow, he's playing well today meanwhile Lukaku is starved of service in the box, standing there twiddling his thumbs.
Their combined assists should be a lot higher for the attempted dribbles to be worth it.
Maybe that's why Jose seems to have promised him a central role if he stays next gear.
Just take it out of his hands completely
 

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A couple of interesting bits from his agent's statement:


Those quotes and his previous tendency to shut down rumours quickly leads me to believe he would still be open to staying if he was given the right assurances.
Unfortunately I don’t think we can tell him Mourinho will probably be sacked mid or the end of next season.
 
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