Wow.
Yeah, we didn't need an illustration, true feelings coming out there I think.
I'm just glad we can drop the pretence.
Let's all Laugh at England
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Wow.
Yeah, we didn't need an illustration, true feelings coming out there I think.
I'm just glad we can drop the pretence.
I agree with you about 99% of the time with football and other stuff too so I'd be willing to accept I'm being overly sensitive. Calling England fans cnuts and pricks is a bit much though. I don't think the support England are getting is jingoistic although of course we have a huge bellend section of fans that are. I think people are just more exposed to English media so they see the worst side of it.
I also didn't mean you're all the same, I meant it as if even Wales, who I thought we had no issue with, hate us then the Irish and Scottish who do have reason to hate us must really fecking loathe us. It's like as a Utd fan in the 90's when you had teams from all over the country wanting us to lose and not just Liverpool and City fans, that's when you realise how hated you are.
I don't cheer for other home nation sides or Ireland though. The same way as a Utd fan I'm a miserable bastard who cheers for no other side or likes any other non Utd player.
Plus I am currently a bit sunburnt so the sunburnt cnut thing struck a personal nerve!
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Not sure about the Irish, but our brand of nationalism can be repulsive at parts. Can't say I blame them if some people get a bit queasy about it considering the history of it all.
Hated, adored, never ignored.
Do you not want any chips with all that salt, bro?
Whose history soaked in death?
This sounded genuinely from a man/woman who will bring strong and stable leadership. You have my vote.
IT'S.....COMING.......H...O....M....E...?
Something's coming home alright. Or out of the closet, at least. Can't get home if you're stuck in a closet, I suppose.
Also, for the benefit of the one, stone deaf guy in the back row (who may not have heard the joke - and who would love to get in on it, one has to assume):
It's arrogant to be English if you're happy (with variations, all very similar - and all equally witty if uttered in a certain "jolly" tone which does not reek of anything in particular).
Also, for the benefit of the one, stone deaf guy in the back row (who may not have heard the joke - and who would love to get in on it, one has to assume):
It's arrogant to be English if you're happy (with variations, all very similar - and all equally witty if uttered in a certain "jolly" tone which does not reek of anything in particular).
I'm glad this thread really got down to the meat of the matter.
All from one poster throwing the racism card.
All from one poster throwing the racism card.
don't forget the time when English lads were seen doing shots of vodka with known Russian hooligans. Promoting gun crime in foreign countries. Terrible
*scratches head*
Repulsive elements of Irish nationalism? Nope, nothing comes to mind.
*whistles*
Probably should have replaced nationalism with colonialism which was what I was trying to get at.
I instantly began humming the theme tune to Rainbow after reading this post.
I really am that sad.
I am Irish and I support England 100%.
England is a wonderful country.
The fools in my country who hate England yet support United/Liverpool/Arsenal are an absolute joke.
Its coming home.
England is a wonderful country.
The fools in my country who hate England yet support United/Liverpool/Arsenal are an absolute joke.
Its coming home.
So much bitterness about England. Why don't you support your local teams? I don't support Real Madrid or Barcelona etc..
This thread is a salt mine.
...and I'll be using it to salt my popcorn all the way to Moscow.
...and I'll be using it to salt my popcorn all the way to Moscow.
I don't think anyone outside of the UK and Ireland actually "hates" England. I think they don't necessarily rate England compared to the French or Belgium teams for instance. What tends to happen is that if an English team for any sport does well, you'll get a minority of people who criticise the media and fans for going over the top with praise. This is despite the fact that the same thing probably happens in any other Country when a national team performs well.
You must also factor in that generally we've been going through a torrid time in this Country: the rail network, NHS, uncertainty over Brexit etc. I can therefore completely understand why, when the national football team gets into a semi-final for the first time in 28 years, there is some excitement in the Country.
The fact is, England have done well. They have not played scintillating football but they have shown a mental strength and a togetherness that we haven't seen for a long long time. Southgate deserves a lot of credit for the man management off the pitch. This tournament has been solely about the football and not about WAGs, training facilities, hotel arrangements etc.
If Irish, Northern Irish, Scottish or Welsh fans want to boo the team, then they can. But it won't change the fact that England have reached the world cup semi-finals and not a single one of their teams even qualified. English football is actually on the up. The youth teams have done very well. No matter what happens now, it'll be very interesting to see if the current team, alongside the youth products coming through, can build on this and create a team that actually is on par, at least on paper, with say France.
You must also factor in that generally we've been going through a torrid time in this Country: the rail network, NHS, uncertainty over Brexit etc. I can therefore completely understand why, when the national football team gets into a semi-final for the first time in 28 years, there is some excitement in the Country.
The fact is, England have done well. They have not played scintillating football but they have shown a mental strength and a togetherness that we haven't seen for a long long time. Southgate deserves a lot of credit for the man management off the pitch. This tournament has been solely about the football and not about WAGs, training facilities, hotel arrangements etc.
If Irish, Northern Irish, Scottish or Welsh fans want to boo the team, then they can. But it won't change the fact that England have reached the world cup semi-finals and not a single one of their teams even qualified. English football is actually on the up. The youth teams have done very well. No matter what happens now, it'll be very interesting to see if the current team, alongside the youth products coming through, can build on this and create a team that actually is on par, at least on paper, with say France.
This is not true anymore.
Only absolute idiots who apparently hate England but support English teams and have for example 93,000 posts on an English clubs forum.
I was the same pal. If a home nation is still in and England are not, they get my support. I even routed for the Irish Rugby team when they play a southern hemisphere team. I am from London
Football is coming home.
Hahahahaha
Let's enjoy the moment and move forward.
Hahahahaha
Let's enjoy the moment and move forward.
I still think Pogue has a serious case of short man's. You'd think all that haggis would help him grow 
Great post. And this is actually what excites me the most about this particular world cup. England have a young and good team. And they are winning stuff at the Uxx level. With the right senior coaching set up, we might be relevant for the next few major tournaments at the senior level, as a result of the hard work done by coaching and staff at the youth level.
What on earth does that have to do with people alive today you absolute gowl.
You hate England so much yet support an English team in MUFC.
You are ridiculous.
This thread is fecking awful.
The amount of bitterness and salty anti-England fans is a eye opener.
The amount of bitterness and salty anti-England fans is a eye opener.
Isn't this a football forum not a political one just enjoy the moment, I know I did!
If my fellow Irish men are so patriotic why are they on the plane every weekend to Liverpool/Manchester instead of watching Cork City and Shamrock Rovers.
Oh but we are the best fans in the world every ten years when we fluke qualification and make fools of ourselves abroad.
Oh but we are the best fans in the world every ten years when we fluke qualification and make fools of ourselves abroad.
Wow. I didn't expect this from you.
I know that you know Irish have stew and Haggis is Scottish. No need to be facetious. Where as I do believe we should let bygones be bygones and bury the past, you have to understand what we English did to Ireland. Even last century our soldiers were killing Irish civilians (Derry being the most famous) and the newspapers were writing about Irish people as they write about Muslims today (they are job stealers, criminals, terrorists etc).I still think Pogue has a serious case of short man's. You'd think all that haggis would help him grow
anyone who hates on the england team because of any matter other than football is a cnut. fullstop. It makes you just as bad as the reasons you say you hate them. grow up. stop with the Colonial bull...no one in that team was around for that (fans weren't either) and has no say in political matters which dont belong anywhere near the sport. Its just salty af, you want England to be rubbish and they are proving you wrong.
its like saying everyone is racist now because people used to have slaves.What on earth does that have to do with people alive today you absolute gowl.
You hate England so much yet support an English team in MUFC.
You are ridiculous.
Pardon me - but when did this become a contradiction in terms? I've seen the same point made in several threads lately.
For me, supporting Manchester United has never come with any responsibility to either fancy England (the national football team) or England (the country - which is what exactly, in this context? A division of Great Britain?).
United have always had a significant Irish (and Scottish) support - people who have never been likely to have any warm feelings for England (in either sense). I also know many English United fans who don't give a toss about England (certainly not the national team - and not the division of Great Britain either, if by that you understand some kind of obligatory patriotism for the sake of it).
because if you really hated England as much as you make out, you would not want anything todo with their most succesful club side.
P.S Most English fans that dont care for the national team is due to disappointment over the years. Its changing. People are starting to connect with the team again.
You're opening up a can of worms with posts like this. Dangerous ground you're treading.
Everyone knows or if they didn't, now they do.
Why support an English club if you hate England.
Its ridiculous.
These people are walking contradictions.
Most Irish people do not hate England in any way just some boorish clowns who obsess over stuff from a 100 years ago.
Cant speak for the Scots.
My parents are Irish but I was born in England and I’m an England Football fan. Nothing you say is wrong, but I don’t think any of this should be taken into account when discussing football matters. At the same time, I appreciate that it I difficult for people to separate things.
I don't hate England, for one thing.
And your logic is far too simplistic. It completely ignores that Manchester United doesn't represent "England" in the sense you seem to imply to many of the club's fans - including fans who are English formally speaking.