Rake
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Doom and gloom everywhere. Players wanting to leave. Seemingly the board does not support his transfer plans,staff leaving
And so it begins....Doom and gloom everywhere. Players wanting to leave. Seemingly the board does not support his transfer plans,staff leaving
Any concrete sources? Who left from the staff?Doom and gloom everywhere. Players wanting to leave. Seemingly the board does not support his transfer plans,staff leaving
It's clear they don't. He takes shots at them in every interview. I think the Glazer's are just happy to accept a top 4 place, and keep the profits coming in. Jose, love him or hate him, is a fecking serial winner, he won't accept that.Any concrete sources? Who left from the staff?
Meltdown coming soon. Jose at odds with Woodward. Incomplete transfer window. Players wanting out. Mourinho unhappy with his squad. Our rivals look stronger than us. I'll can only see us fighting for top 4 this season.I'm sick and tired about reading about a famous 3rd year meltdown. I get it when media pushes it, they want it to happen so it can gain clicks, reads whatever. Jose losing the dressing room has been a story from last year and every monologue of which there were few tbh is treated like a beginning of a meltdown.
What is worse is that some of our fans are repeating it non stop as if they can't wait for it to happen so we can get rid of him. There are posts like he'll be out by Christmas and so on like it's a good thing if he goes earlier. I tell you what, I'd rather we'll be in a title race come Christmas and even if we dont win it that we'll be in the mix than to start over at half season with god knows who.
Maybe it will be just a problem with a result and if we get top 4 Ed will want to get rid or Jose will step down. But that talk about meltdowns. Even at Chelsea and Madrid it wasn't all his fault what happened and he's not some evil guy who just brakes everything around him and acts like a lunatic. Did he have a fair share of mistakes and stupid decisons? Sure. But some of the stuff written and said is ridiculous.
In any case he has certainly mellowed over the years. In Italy and in Spain he was arguing with everyone under the sun. Now he doesn't do that, he's a lot calmer. But that's a problem too cause you know what, he doesn't smile... He is in good relations with Benitez, Pep, but now he will inevitably have his famous meltdown and will 'combust' and destroy the club and everything it stands for.
I doubt that mate. Happy that we'll probably be struggling? No one wants that if they support the club. But you must admit Jose's negativity is not helping here.Why am I getting the impression some of you are happy at the thought of this?
Why am I getting the impression some of you are happy at the thought of this?
So the answer is to have us go through a run of form that makes the club sack him or to make him walk?Nobody would want us to lose but Most people will be more than happy when Jose leaves.
Everything about him is negative, His character, attitude and tactics. He’s literally a drain to the club at this point.
Give it to Giggs...So the answer is to have us go through a run of form that makes the club sack him or to make him walk?
Where do we go then?
So the answer is to have us go through a run of form that makes the club sack him or to make him walk?
Where do we go then?
That will make us more optimistic?Give it to Giggs...
It would be! Club legend leading us would make me buzzing!That will make us more optimistic?
Yep, we would be in good standing of getting promoted from the championship.That will make us more optimistic?
Cause him and Mendes blackmailed us into a new contract. Wouldn't be surprised if this is again about another new contract after Guardiola got an extension, which I'm guessing made him higher paid than Mourinho.If board has a problem with Jose, players have a problem with Jose, fans have a problem with Jose, why the feck are we going into the next season with him as our manager? At the very least I hope we are beginning to think of who we can get to replace him.
Well getting all of our players back is a great way to start. A good performance in August will fix everything. Wins against Leicester, Brighton and Spurs and Jose will be back to being a genius and the right man for the job.Yep, all the stars are aligning and a lot sooner than expected.
- Jose dropping hints about being unhappy about the transfer situation.
- Fans unhappy with the same.
- Rumours of players wanting out.
- RUmours about the board not being entirely happy with Jose, his targets or the situation.
- Dreadful pre-season tour so far.....
Unsure how this improves in the space of 3 weeks, to be honest.
Where has this been reported? Seeing it mentioned all over the caf yet I'm yet to see it. Is this a conclusion linked back to the transfer comments? It doesn't matter who the manager is, there will always be an unhappy player and unsatisfied fans.If board has a problem with Jose, players have a problem with Jose, fans have a problem with Jose, why the feck are we going into the next season with him as our manager? At the very least I hope we are beginning to think of who we can get to replace him.
It is purely speculation for now but yes, but the comment he made was very odd and there was no need for it.Where has this been reported? Seeing it mentioned all over the caf yet I'm yet to see it. Is this a conclusion linked back to the transfer comments? It doesn't matter who the manager is, there will always be an unhappy player and unsatisfied fans.
ZlatanGive it to Giggs...
That would be tantamount to match-fixing.Zlatan
Based on the little we know about their policy, I see no reason why they'd be unhappy with him.Where has this been reported? Seeing it mentioned all over the caf yet I'm yet to see it. Is this a conclusion linked back to the transfer comments? It doesn't matter who the manager is, there will always be an unhappy player and unsatisfied fans.
That's what I thought. It's a lot of Jose being Jose compiled by the lack of transfers and people are jumping to conclusions.Based on the little we know about their policy, I see no reason why they'd be unhappy with him.
Last season's results were the best we've seen since Fergie retired. The football wasn't great at all if you ask me – but the board couldn't give a feck what I think.
If there's trouble brewing it has to be over transfers, i.e. José is unhappy with the board rather than the other way around. But he tends to be anything but subtle when he's pissed off at someone – and he hasn't said anything about Woody beyond a few comments which could be construed as mild petulance over not getting his targets (yet).
There's a tendency towards sheer hysteria on here at the moment, as if the ship is about to sink any minute. There hasn't been a single story from a reputable source (that I'm aware of) about player unrest or anything like serious trouble between José and Woody.
Agree with this. Much ado about nothing.Based on the little we know about their policy, I see no reason why they'd be unhappy with him.
Last season's results were the best we've seen since Fergie retired. The football wasn't great at all if you ask me – but the board couldn't give a feck what I think.
If there's trouble brewing it has to be over transfers, i.e. José is unhappy with the board rather than the other way around. But he tends to be anything but subtle when he's pissed off at someone – and he hasn't said anything about Woody beyond a few comments which could be construed as mild petulance over not getting his targets (yet).
There's a tendency towards sheer hysteria on here at the moment, as if the ship is about to sink any minute. There hasn't been a single story from a reputable source (that I'm aware of) about player unrest or anything like serious trouble between José and Woody.
Agreed!Nobody would want us to lose but Most people will be more than happy when Jose leaves.
Everything about him is negative, His character, attitude and tactics. He’s literally a drain to the club at this point.
Good to see a different perspective, but its a bit like stats, you cna always bring out once to paint a favourable view. Dont get your first paragraph at all, he may be behaving on the touchline, but he is publicly slating players in interviews, he is sniping about ,amy other things within the club too....thing he isnt and wont learn at all, which shows he is actually more stubborn than intelligent...and he is very intelligent, so its sad.I personally think Mourinho will be here for at least a few more years, but obviously that opinion isn't shared by most here hahah.
There are a number of key (imo) factors which people are either choosing to ignore or forgetting:
- When Mourinho first came in, he was acting like his old fiery self and got himself a couple of touchline bans. He then spoke in press conferences and interviews about how he's working on changing and adapting his attitude. He failed to do that at Chelsea the 2nd time around and it got him fired. He definitely learned a lesson there, and I think that's why he behaves more subdued now. It's not because of a lack of interest. He wanted to remain at Chelsea for many years and he wants to do the same here. He also specifically spoke about how he needs to learn to work with different player personalities, rather than just force them away. I think he is doing that here.
- Youth. Before he was appointed, one of the major complaints/fears of the Anti-Mourinho brigade was that he absolutely refuses to use and develop youth. His transfers and actions since taking over indicate completely the opposite. He has spent big money on young players like Pogba, Bailly, Lindeloff, Dalot. He is also regularly using academy players such as Rashford, Lingard, and now McTomminay. Even a player like Lukaku is pretty young and has time to develop further. The problem with this however is that it isn't giving us immediate results. For some reason people expected Lindeloff to make an immediate impact. I always saw him as a signing for the future, and he has definitely been improving since he first arrived. I expect we'll see a lot more of him this coming season. Bailly was hit by an injury and it derailed his season, but he's a very talented player who I am sure can further improve.
Basically we have a squad with a lot of players who still have a lot of learning to do. Mourinho has tried to sprinkle in some top level experience with Matic and Sanchez, but it's not enough until those younger players properly mature. Pogba may very well become the leader we need this coming season, but I wouldn't be surprised if he needs an extra year to really get to that level. Please don't respond with "he just led France to a world cup", that squad has a number of leaders and while his achievement is good for Man Utd, our squad is not France.
Lastly, I think it's very important to consider this: What is the board and Mourinho's vision for the club for the next 2-5-10 years? If they have sat down and said "right, we need to build a squad with local lads as well as a few superstars, because that's the United way", then they're not going to fire Mourinho this season unless we fall out of top 4. They know that some of our key players are still maturing and they know that this takes time. Sometimes it'll be difficult and sometimes it'll be downright awful but I feel like the board may be willing to be patient. On the other hand, if the board expects BPL victory at all costs, then they'd need to provide the manager with the appropriate signings ala Galacticos but so far that definitely hasn't been our transfer policy so I don't think those are the true expectations.
Or Butt or Carrick.Give it to Giggs...
Amen. Specially the last para.Based on the little we know about their policy, I see no reason why they'd be unhappy with him.
Last season's results were the best we've seen since Fergie retired. The football wasn't great at all if you ask me – but the board couldn't give a feck what I think.
If there's trouble brewing it has to be over transfers, i.e. José is unhappy with the board rather than the other way around. But he tends to be anything but subtle when he's pissed off at someone – and he hasn't said anything about Woody beyond a few comments which could be construed as mild petulance over not getting his targets (yet).
There's a tendency towards sheer hysteria on here at the moment, as if the ship is about to sink any minute. There hasn't been a single story from a reputable source (that I'm aware of) about player unrest or anything like serious trouble between José and Woody.