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90% of those players will lose a game to any pub side. Too many deadweights in the squad. Shaw & Darmian are complete liabilities. If you add Jones/Smalling to the equation, you have a disaster waiting to happen.
Jeez I know I'm negative but hell, that's a terrible post.


Many of the players IMO aren't good enough to be first teamers , certainly good enough to beat Stanley on Sea's under 12s though.
 

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Result doesn't matter, the style doesn't matter. What matter is we can see our players can run around for 90 min. for 'match fit'. Horrayy!!
 

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regardless of the players missing you would expect the team to play in a certain style.....

to show a tactical approach or some evidence of an idea of playing a certain way

we were pinned back and played long balls the entire match - I'd love to know what he said to the lads in preparation for the game
 

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Utter fecking shit. We're no different than we were on the last day of the season, with one week of the transfer window left and us chasing a soddin' centre back at 'I saw you coming' prices.
 

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I didn't know we did post match threads for preseason games so I'm going to paste what I've just said in the match thread like a proper wanker:

A pretty hideous watch all-told. I'm aware of the personnel factors at play, missing some of our big hitters and the few senior players we do have available having their bollocks run off all over the US isn't ideal, but I can't pretend I've seen much tonight to give me confidence for Friday.

I think Sanchez looked sharp in the first half and we defended well for long periods too, but we look well behind in our preparations, more so than any of our rivals that I've seen this preseason (City, Liverpool, Spurs, Chelsea, Arsenal). We'll be looking to scrape through our first few fixtures, let's hope we can but I'd take any United players you may have out of your fantasy team for now.

Also MUTV is an embarrassment, I don't see much of it but is it always this shoddy? :lol:
Is it fair to say that generally we have been hit worse by players missing from late world cup or injury than out rivals ? So saying we are behind them in preparation could be explained by this ? May be people should have taken Jose not being happy a few weeks ago more seriously if they were expecting us to be well prepared
 

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You are the one missing the point. Will Jose ever start that team in any PL game? If he won’t, why so hysterical?

LVG beat Roma, Real Madrid, Valencia & Liverpool in his preseason games only to go & lose scandalously to Swansea & then get plastered 4-0 by MK Dons few weeks later.

That alone should be your evidence that preseason games is the square root of f@ck all. It has no effect on the grand scheme of things.
You did it again.

Most of your post everyone has already acknowledged weeks ago and is not why people are frustrated. Have you even read the read before posting?
 

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Yes, just to please us, the fans. Fans,one of the main and biggest reasons clubs exist. Shouldn't be too much to ask for some decent football or have a couple of shots on target, play some nice passes to make the fans happy and confident going into the new season.

Instead your act all top reddish coming straight out of the jose cult gang where any criticism of him and his style means that we are some lesser united fans.

You don't need to coach to be entertained stop, your posts are just ridiculous.
You are fecking ridiculous if all you can do is spout top red when someone is trying to tell you that its a meaningless fecking friendly 5 days before the start of the PL.
 

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I don't put much, if any, stock in pre-season, but this isn't a new coach and he's had two previous year of the same crap so I can't see how anybody would be optimistic. This whole lack of transfers is kind of a moot point as players become a shell of themselves and play so restricted that it's not as if a few reinforcements are really going to turn this into a cohesive side. Not only that, but the way the team plays so negatively is a turn off for a lot of potential transfer targets. I can't see many players looking to move making this Manchester United side their priority.
 

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Don't make excuses for that performance.

That was simply rubbish and big improvements need to be made.

I don't care if some of our first team players were missing, even Real Madrid's 3rd string were able to play good football against us.
 

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You've not answered his questions. Just regurgitated facts that you've read from all the other apologists.

We had Sánchez, Rashford, Mata and Fred playing. Is that enough star quality for you?

Also, do you not agree that it would be useful to try some attacking during these matches? Or do you think it will just magically come right when we play Leicester?
Apologists. :lol:

No it wasnt enough star quality compared to what they had.
 

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You are fecking ridiculous if all you can do is spout top red when someone is trying to tell you that its a meaningless fecking friendly 5 days before the start of the PL.

Ahh yes, the meaningless friendly drivel.

Forget that it’s five days before the start of the season and the team looks like they don’t have a scooby do.
 

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Poor performance and slightly worrying. Let's see what happens on Friday. Positive thoughts and all that...
 

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You are fecking ridiculous if all you can do is spout top red when someone is trying to tell you that its a meaningless fecking friendly 5 days before the start of the PL.
Yes I am the one who is ridiculous when you have the fecking idiotic post asking why Jose should setup a team who can pass around and play well 5 days before the season just because the fans want to see some decent football :lol::lol::lol:
 

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Turned the match on, seen that Darmian and Mata were lining up on the right. Turned it off again, life's too short for that shit.

feck sake Jose buy some fecking wingers.
 

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Turned the match on, seen that Darmian and Mata were lining up on the right. Turned it off again, life's too short for that shit.

feck sake Jose buy some fecking wingers.
Wish I had your common sense.
 

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You've not answered his questions. Just regurgitated facts that you've read from all the other apologists.

We had Sánchez, Rashford, Mata and Fred playing. Is that enough star quality for you?

Also, do you not agree that it would be useful to try some attacking during these matches? Or do you think it will just magically come right when we play Leicester?
That's actually very poor quality. Bayern lineup today was miles ahead of us.

Should have tried to find other way to argue tbh.
 

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I'm going to withhold any judgement until the league season starts. It's been apparent for years how pointless these friendlies are. I cant really understand us not bothering to attack, but there you go. The intensity and intent will no doubt be better against Leicester.
 

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Is it fair to say that generally we have been hit worse by players missing from late world cup or injury than out rivals ? So saying we are behind them in preparation could be explained by this ? May be people should have taken Jose not being happy a few weeks ago more seriously if they were expecting us to be well prepared
That is a myth. Spurs were hit worse than anyone, with smaller squad, but they have seemed to have gotten by, & the manager supplements them with youths & reserves, actually praising the youngsters.
 

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What is this our preseason vs theres they have played games too and have more star players available than us. Why are you people avoiding facts ffs?
Yes they have a number of star players available but they've also got two wingers in their mid 30's who look fitter than our players, when we should be further down the line in our fitness than them.

Almost all of those players are going to be starting for us the league in 5 days and will feature heavily over the next few weeks. I get the argument that were building up fitness more than anything, but you cant just turn on playing well and being up to match speed like a switch. We have three training days left before the premier league starts. Lets face it throughout most of preseason we have struggled to get any sort of rhythm in our play, and its hard to see it all coming together for leicester.

Don't get me wrong hope it all clicks friday, especially for Mourinho because I am a fan of his but think hes starting to loose his way a little here. He needs to realise that we actually have a good squad of players, there's a lot of talent to work with, some perhaps don't quite fit in with his tactics very well but I think he needs to be a bit more flexible to get the best out of them.
 

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He called himself "The special one" once upon a time,what the feck happened to Jose?
 

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Yes they have a number of star players available but they've also got two wingers in their mid 30's who look fitter than our players, when we should be further down the line in our fitness than them.

Almost all of those players are going to be starting for us the league in 5 days and will feature heavily over the next few weeks. I get the argument that were building up fitness more than anything, but you cant just turn on playing well and being up to match speed like a switch. We have three training days left before the premier league starts. Lets face it throughout most of preseason we have struggled to get any sort of rhythm in our play, and its hard to see it all coming together for leicester.

Don't get me wrong hope it all clicks friday, especially for Mourinho because I am a fan of his but think hes starting to loose his way a little here. He needs to realise that we actually have a good squad of players, there's a lot of talent to work with, some perhaps don't quite fit in with his tactics very well but I think he needs to be a bit more flexible to get the best out of them.
We didnt have two wingers. Two wingers would have helped us.
 

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The guy is not known for attacking though. So, it is your fault, if you expect his team will do anything like that.

You all should try to learn how to appreciate the style he is making us play really.
 

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Turned it off at about 70mins. Not looking forward to Friday now, we need to hope a few returning faces get in the team and really invigorate us. We look absolutely clueless and afraid to express ourselves.
 

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He really should being the CEO and all that.
Oh so the Ceo decides who United buy, there was me thinking it was Manager deciding that stuff.

Makes you wonder what the fecks on these lists Mourinho keeps handing Woodward then.
 

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Well, I think it's fair to say that McKenna and Carrick have contributed very little to our style of play so far. There was nothing in this match that has been convincing, that seemed like we can challenge for the biggest trophies, and that we can be better than City. Hopefully, Mourinho can turn it around in next few weeks, or we'll be in a very very bad position.
 

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Totally worth it to spend 100€ to bring my father to his first United game. He was thrilled obviously.
 

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Not really watched the game nor the pre season, but my word is the negativity everywhere.

The way I see it, to save my sanity and stop my being negative, I'll look at this way:

Either Jose is getting the sack or we'll do okay this season. win win

The only sickening fact is the possibility of watching the scousers and city fighting for the title.

When will United become mighty again? (on the pitch not off it - couldn't give a toss about money)
 

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there seems to be a lot of back and forth between those who recognise how poor we've played since Christmas and those who think Jose is still the man

i'd love to know what those who believe in Jose think is going to happen this season....what is he going to do to improve the way we play?

or is it Woody's fault? It's not like Jose has had 2 years and 350 million to spend previously
 

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Saying that LVG struggled after his preseason is a bit disengenuous. If I remember in that first game against Swansea we had enormous injuries, Lingard had to go off at half time playing left back FFS.
 

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No its the CEO who does the transfer deals? Are you being obtuse or just silly?
Are you being pedantic?

Woodward or one of his staff do the negotiating but Mourinho decides who the club try to buy. We are being linked primarily to centrebacks and have been all summer. When we desperately need winger/s and a left back.

Who decided that was our transfer strategy then? Woodward or Mourinho?

If the answer is Mourinho then as i said, Jose buy some fecking wingers.
 

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The guy is not known for attacking though. So, it is your fault, if you expect his team will do anything like that.

You all should try to learn how to appreciate the style he is making us play really.
Park the bus and hope for the best?
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy good defensive football, Athletico Madrid was a joy to watch at times, insane pressing, insane defending, insane counter attacking. Utd have none of that.

Whatever this 'style' we're meant to enjoy, it's not good to watch on a defensive stand point, non existant creative attacking and non existant counter attacking.

The second half of last season was a complete drag, with the odd highlight.

Was the style in all it's glory vs Sevilla?
 

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I genuinely worry at some of the posts I read from United fans, that first sentence is bonkers.
It’s not bonkers, it’s what it is. United only have a very strong starting XI, beyond that the players are very average. Once you don’t have the right combination of players on the pitch, the gaping hole in the fabric of the team begins to expand.

Juan Mata, Alexis Sanchez and Marcus Rashford would lose against a pub side? You must live near a pretty ridiculous Sunday league!!
Mata is finished at top level.
Rashford is not a centre forward.