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Its impressive that Fury has got back to a decent shape, but he needs another fight before going in with Wilder, imo. I dont rate Wilder that highly, but I see this Fury getting K.O'd by one of his windmill punches.
The Fury from Chisora 2 - Klitschko, would have picked Wilder apart with relative ease though, imo.
 

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He'll never fight again some were saying. Now he's going in against Wilder whilst AJ has been playing about at making the fight for god knows how long.

I can almost see it now, Fury beats Wilder, earns loads of money, and goes on another hiatus, leaving AJ with nothing :lol: It honestly wouldn't surprise me.
 

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He'll never fight again some were saying. Now he's going in against Wilder whilst AJ has been playing about at making the fight for god knows how long.

I can almost see it now, Fury beats Wilder, earns loads of money, and goes on another hiatus, leaving AJ with nothing :lol: It honestly wouldn't surprise me.
Except more money, the WBA, IBF and WBO...

Fury fans are an odd bunch.
 

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Fury is interesting. He is clearly just trying to bank rounds at the moment so I find it odd they have booked the Wilder fight. Obviously they sense its now or never and potentially it would have been Joshua's next if they hadn't pulled the trigger

Have a feeling it will be too soon for Fury to really shine and he could do with another couple of fights. Still, should be interesting all the same.
 

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Fury is interesting. He is clearly just trying to bank rounds at the moment so I find it odd they have booked the Wilder fight. Obviously they sense its now or never and potentially it would have been Joshua's next if they hadn't pulled the trigger

Have a feeling it will be too soon for Fury to really shine and he could do with another couple of fights. Still, should be interesting all the same.
I've just watched all of Wilders knockouts, 39 or so. He really looks like a slugger and he seems to flail all over the shop. Plus the calibre of guys he's knocked out all look pretty awful.

I think Fury will out box him and grind out a win.
 

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Fury is interesting. He is clearly just trying to bank rounds at the moment so I find it odd they have booked the Wilder fight. Obviously they sense its now or never and potentially it would have been Joshua's next if they hadn't pulled the trigger

Have a feeling it will be too soon for Fury to really shine and he could do with another couple of fights. Still, should be interesting all the same.
Yeah I think Fury needs at least 1 more fight before Wilder. He looked better in this fight but it's a huge step up from that.
 

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Except more money, the WBA, IBF and WBO...

Fury fans are an odd bunch.
Nah the point, which you missed, is AJ has nowhere interesting to go in that entirely hypothetical situation where Fury trolls AJ and takes the biggest payday away from him. It goes without saying that AJ has a tonne of money and some belts. But what are belts without the big fights? Wilder and Fury are the only two names that gets people interested in terms of AJ opponent's. Within the next couple of years he'll end up fighting the likes of Whyte again.
 

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He'll never fight again some were saying. Now he's going in against Wilder whilst AJ has been playing about at making the fight for god knows how long.

I can almost see it now, Fury beats Wilder, earns loads of money, and goes on another hiatus, leaving AJ with nothing :lol: It honestly wouldn't surprise me.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Fury destroys Wilder in under 3 rounds although I think the opposite. I think Fury would love a fight vs AJ and if he beats Wilder then surely that is a bigger fight than AJ vs Wilder. There would be so much intrest in that fight within the UK. That’s a sell out Wembley fight.
 

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Thought the same from WC to putting the stool in the ring for Fury
Fury's been training at his gym so it's natural he might be working his corner in some capacity.

I thought Tyson looked much better last night but the 'getting the rounds in the bank' spiel from the Commentary team is glossing over the fact that he just isn't a puncher capable of cleaning someone out with one shot.

It's a strange one really because people that spar him say he punches hard.
 

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Nah the point, which you missed, is AJ has nowhere interesting to go in that entirely hypothetical situation where Fury trolls AJ and takes the biggest payday away from him. It goes without saying that AJ has a tonne of money and some belts. But what are belts without the big fights? Wilder and Fury are the only two names that gets people interested in terms of AJ opponent's. Within the next couple of years he'll end up fighting the likes of Whyte again.
No wonder I missed the point. AJ will continue to pack out stadiums and make ridiculous sums of money, whether Fury refuses to fight him or not, agreed on that. He'll inevitably get the opportunity to fight for the WBC and unify the division anyway. Besides, he could probably fight for another decade, and there's going to be other contenders appear in that time. The fight will mean far more to Fury, both financially and on a reputation basis, than it would AJ. That's a odd way to troll someone.
 

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Except more money, the WBA, IBF and WBO...

Fury fans are an odd bunch.
Eddie and AJ should have stopped dicking around and just got in with getting the Wilder fight. It didn't need any more building up .Serves them right that Fury looks to have got in there first .

I'm an AJ fan too, but as powerful as he is,it's obvious to anyone with vision that Fury has the speed and agility that he'll never possess. A Fury that has barely come back into decent fitness......
 
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Eddie and AJ should have stopped dicking around and just got in with getting the Wilder fight. It didn't need any more building up .Serves them right that Fury looks to have got in there first .

I'm an AJ fan too, but as powerful as he is,it's obvious to anyone with vision that Fury has the speed and agility that he'll never possess. A Fury that is just barely come back into decent fitness......
They aren't just going to "get on with it." They are going to get what they deserve in terms of purse share.

If you're a AJ fan then I'm a Fury fanboi.

He looked crap last night. I wasn't impressed with that performance whatsoever, and I hope for his sake he's going to drastically improve before the Wilder fight.
 

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Eddie and AJ should have stopped dicking around and just got in with getting the Wilder fight. It didn't need any more building up .Serves them right that Fury looks to have got in there first .

I'm an AJ fan too, but as powerful as he is,it's obvious to anyone with vision that Fury has the speed and agility that he'll never possess. A Fury that is just barely come back into decent fitness......
I agree that Fury could beat Joshua. 50-50 fight for me. I don't see how Fury fighting Wilder first is a bad thing for him though. AJ holds 3 belts and the winner of the Fury - Wilder fight will be huge in the UK, especially if Fury wins. AJ fighting Wilder now would bring in far less and one of Wilder's looping shots could end him.
 

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Eddie and AJ should have stopped dicking around and just got in with getting the Wilder fight. It didn't need any more building up .Serves them right that Fury looks to have got in there first .

I'm an AJ fan too, but as powerful as he is,it's obvious to anyone with vision that Fury has the speed and agility that he'll never possess. A Fury that is just barely come back into decent fitness......
...went the distance with a heavy bag and looked like shit.
 

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Am I missing something here when everyone says that AJ has ducked Wilder, even when it's clear that the opposite is true?

That 50m offer had a 24 deadline, and Wilders team wouldn't even agree to a meeting with Eddie unless he accepted the fight. No one in their right mind would accept an offer without seeing the terms of the contract. We later found out last week, that the deal would never have happened anyway even if Hearn verbally accepted it as it was going to be broadcast on BT Sports, which is something AJ can't do as he is probably THE face of Sky Sports at the moment and would cost him a fortune to break that contract. Hearn and AJ would have been made to look far worse if they publically accepted the 50m offer without seeing the terms, and then backtrack saying they can't do it because of contractual obligations.

Hearn then finally sent a 15m flat fee offer (after the 12.5m offer), which Wilder AGREED the terms to after a few weeks with the WBA breathing down the neck of AJ. And then didn't sign the contact as it didn't have a date or venue confirmed even though everyone knows it would have only taken place in Cardiff and in October or November.

Why is it suddenly okay for Wilder to accept the Fury fight when no date or venue is confirmed, but it isn't okay when AJ and his team have done the same thing?

Shelly Finkel and Frank Warren have stitched up Eddie, and have used AJ's name to build up Wilder vs Fury.
 

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They aren't just going to "get on with it." They are going to get what they deserve in terms of purse share.

If you're a AJ fan then I'm a Fury fanboi.

He looked crap last night. I wasn't impressed with that performance whatsoever, and I hope for his sake he's going to drastically improve before the Wilder fight.
I'm a fan of all British boxers! :) I'm sure you're not that bothered to check my orevious posts but you're welcome to obviously.

AJ will earn enough fighting Wilder now. It's just greed. What will he get by delaying the fight a year? An extra 5 mill on top of the 50 mil or whatever he'll get. Cmon!
 

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I'm a fan of all British boxers! :) I'm sure you're not that bothered to check my orevious posts but you're welcome to obviously.

AJ will earn enough fighting Wilder now. It's just greed. What will he get by delaying the fight a year? An extra 5 mill on top of the 50 mil or whatever he'll get. Cmon!
Sounds like it.

Fury has natural ability AJ can only dream about.
He's not delaying the fight. The onus is on Wilder as much as AJ to get the fight done. Joshua brings more to the fight in every single category, and so rightly wants to be paid to reflect that. There's no reason why AJ should take Wilders lowball offer, just because he knew there was a time frame on when the fight had to take place due to mandatory. AJ dictates the terms, not the other way around.

Edit: well put @Roopea
 

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Sounds like it.



He's not delaying the fight. The onus is on Wilder as much as AJ to get the fight done. Joshua brings more to the fight in every single category, and so rightly wants to be paid to reflect that. There's no reason why AJ should take Wilders lowball offer, just because he knew there was a time frame on when the fight had to take place due to mandatory. AJ dictates the terms, not the other way around.
Im just glad we get to see a huge fight. I think Fury can get the job done against Wilder to set up the big one with AJ. Joshua will struggle against Fury.
 

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I agree that Fury could beat Joshua. 50-50 fight for me. I don't see how Fury fighting Wilder first is a bad thing for him though. AJ holds 3 belts and the winner of the Fury - Wilder fight will be huge in the UK, especially if Fury wins. AJ fighting Wilder now would bring in far less and one of Wilder's looping shots could end him.
Its not a bad thing, I just find it funny. No way would Eddie have thought Fury would get in there first against Wilder and make Joshua a peripheral figure, which he will be until he fights either Fury or Wilder himself. THAT was not in the master plan.
 

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Am I missing something here when everyone says that AJ has ducked Wilder, even when it's clear that the opposite is true?

That 50m offer had a 24 deadline, and Wilders team wouldn't even agree to a meeting with Eddie unless he accepted the fight. No one in their right mind would accept an offer without seeing the terms of the contract. We later found out last week, that the deal would never have happened anyway even if Hearn verbally accepted it as it was going to be broadcast on BT Sports, which is something AJ can't do as he is probably THE face of Sky Sports at the moment and would cost him a fortune to break that contract. Hearn and AJ would have been made to look far worse if they publically accepted the 50m offer without seeing the terms, and then backtrack saying they can't do it because of contractual obligations.

Hearn then finally sent a 15m flat fee offer (after the 12.5m offer), which Wilder AGREED the terms to after a few weeks with the WBA breathing down the neck of AJ. And then didn't sign the contact as it didn't have a date or venue confirmed even though everyone knows it would have only taken place in Cardiff and in October or November.

Why is it suddenly okay for Wilder to accept the Fury fight when no date or venue is confirmed, but it isn't okay when AJ and his team have done the same thing?

Shelly Finkel and Frank Warren have stitched up Eddie, and have used AJ's name to build up Wilder vs Fury.
It would appear that way. I think all along Wilder's team wasn't that into the fight right now and to be honest I feel Hearn was ok with that but sort of called their bluff.

I've felt since I first saw Wilder that he's a cash out job. That he will be protected as much as possible until the huge payday then they'll roll the dice. He was forced into the Povetkin, Ortiz fights and luckily the Ortiz fight came after he had slowed significantly and was rusty and Povektin obviously failed a drug test. The opposition that hasn't been enforced on him has been laughable and speaks volumes. Finkel clearly admitted after they won the title that he won't be fighting Klitshcko. Which makes sense because it's been rumored that Wilder was KO'd in sparring a few times by Wladimir and I've heard Haye had him out on queer street maybe KO'd and that's with headgear and bigger gloves.

They probably see Fury as a soft touch and will continue dragging Joshua's name through the mud whilst trying to hype fights like Brezeale, trying to sell mismatches and then cash in on a Joshua showdown once it's over $20-25m for him. Makes sense he has like 3 advisers/managers etc; in his pockets looking to make a buck off him which makes his "Eddie Hearn is just another white man trying to milk a brother" rather ironic.

Now Joshua isn't a big name over here but when the public starts to hear that a fighter is feared and being avoided they will start to pay attention. It helps when said fighter KO's people no matter how mediocre. That's what looks like the Wilder model IMO.

I think Fury will outbox him though but he'll struggle to get a decision on a Al Haymon handpicked scorecard.
 

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It would appear that way. I think all along Wilder's team wasn't that into the fight right now and to be honest I feel Hearn was ok with that but sort of called their bluff.

I've felt since I first saw Wilder that he's a cash out job. That he will be protected as much as possible until the huge payday then they'll roll the dice. He was forced into the Povetkin, Ortiz fights and luckily the Ortiz fight came after he had slowed significantly and was rusty and Povektin obviously failed a drug test. The opposition that hasn't been enforced on him has been laughable and speaks volumes. Finkel clearly admitted after they won the title that he won't be fighting Klitshcko. Which makes sense because it's been rumored that Wilder was KO'd in sparring a few times by Wladimir and I've heard Haye had him out on queer street maybe KO'd and that's with headgear and bigger gloves.

They probably see Fury as a soft touch and will continue dragging Joshua's name through the mud whilst trying to hype fights like Brezeale, trying to sell mismatches and then cash in on a Joshua showdown once it's over $20-25m for him. Makes sense he has like 3 advisers/managers etc; in his pockets looking to make a buck off him which makes his "Eddie Hearn is just another white man trying to milk a brother" rather ironic.

Now Joshua isn't a big name over here but when the public starts to hear that a fighter is feared and being avoided they will start to pay attention. It helps when said fighter KO's people no matter how mediocre. That's what looks like the Wilder model IMO.

I think Fury will outbox him though but he'll struggle to get a decision on a Al Haymon handpicked scorecard.
Spot on! Amazing how a lot of other people can't see this, and continuously blame Eddie and AJ especially when they have a track record of making fights against top 5-10 opponents with ease and little fuss.

I also fear for Fury in the Wilder fight as he will get robbed on the scorecard even if he wins 8-9 rounds clearly. There is no way he is going to KO Wilder with his feather fisted punches.
 
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Spot on! Amazing how a lot of other people can't see this, and continuously blame Eddie and AJ especially when they have a track record of making fights against top 5-10 opponents with ease and little fuss.

I also fear for Fury in the Wilder fight as he will get robbed on the scorecard even if he wins 8-9 rounds clearly. There is no way he is going to KO Wilder with his feather fisted punches.
I think he'd have to clearly win more than eight rounds to get a decision. Luis Ortiz was winning most of the rounds and the judges had Wilder up at the time of the stoppage.
 

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For those that like watching old fights I've created my personal list of 50-60 of the best fights of all-time. It's a combination more of the best fights sprinkled in with a few personal favorites (that are also classics) and mostly it's from the last 50 years so easier to access on YouTube and better quality film in general. It's in no particular order but goes down from heaviest weight class down to the smallest weight class. I've put in bold the one's I deem extra special that you may have not seen that I'd prioritize as must see. Nigel Benn vs. Gerald McClellan would have made the list but I can't watch or put it on because of McClellan's state. It's an unbelievable fight that I hate and have never been able to enjoy unfortunately.

Riddick Bowe vs. Evander Holyfield I
Riddick Bowe vs. Andrew Golota II
Muhammad Ali vs. Joe Frazier I & III
Larry Holmes vs. Ken Norton
George Foreman vs. Ron Lyle
Michael Moorer vs. Bert Cooper
Evander Holyfield vs. Dwight Muhammad Qawi I
James Toney vs. Vassily Jirov
Matthew Saad Muhammad vs. Yaqui Lopez II
Matthew Saad Muhammad vs. Marvin Johnson I & II

Matthew Saad Muhammad vs. John Conteh I
Marvin Hagler vs. Thomas Hearns
Marvin Hagler vs. John Mugabi
Carlos Monzon vs. Rodrigo Valdez II
Roberto Duran vs. Iran Barkley
James Toney vs. Mike McCalum I & II
Felix Trinidad vs. Ricardo Mayorga
Felix Trinidad vs. Fernando Vargas
Felix Trinidad vs. David Reid
Shane Mosley vs. Oscar De La Hoya I
Sugar Ray Leonard vs. Thomas Hearns I
Roberto Duran vs. Sugar Ray Leonard I
Aaron Pryor vs. Alexis Arguello I (my choice for greatest boxing match ever)
Julio Cesar Chavez vs. Meldrick Taylor I
Mickey Ward vs. Arturo Gatti I
Ivan Robinson vs. Arturo Gatti I
Arturo Gatti vs. Gabriel Ruelas
Diego Corrales vs. Jose Luis Castillo I
Jose Luis Ramirez vs. Edwin Rosario II
Hector Camacho vs. Edwin Rosario
Bobby Chacon vs. Rafael Limon IV
Bobby Chacon vs. Cornelius Boza-Edwards II

Danny Lopez vs. Mike Ayala
Salvador Sanchez vs. Azumah Nelson
Salvador Sanchez vs. Wilfredo Gomez
Alexis Arguello vs. Ruben Olivares
Nassem Hamed vs. Kevin Kelley
Juan Manuel Marquez vs. Manny Pacquaio I, II & IV
Juan Manuel Marquez vs. Juan Diaz I
Juan Manuel Marquez vs. Marco Antonio Barrera
Marco Antonio Barrera vs. Erik Morales I & III
Erik Morales vs. Manny Pacquaio I
Wilfredo Gomez vs. Lupe Pintor
Rafael Marquez vs. Israel Vazquez I, II, III
Rafael Marquez vs. Mark Johnson I
Rafael Marquez vs. Tim Austin I
Ruben Olivares vs. Chucho Castillo I & II
Ruben Olivares vs. Kazuyoshi Kanazawa II
Eder Jofre vs. Jose Medel I
Eder Jofre vs. Fighting Harada I
Michael Carbajal vs. Humberto Gonzalez I
Ricardo Lopez vs. Rosendo Alvarez II
Roberto Quiroga vs. Akeem Anifowoshe
 

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Dan Rafael of ESPN mentioned today that Fury may not be facing Wilder after all.

Dan Rafael, King Fight Freak 12:01 PM ET
the latest from Fury's team is that he is now apparently balking at the fight. I was told that yesterday by a member of his management team.
 

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16 March 1996: Frank Bruno vs. Mike Tyson II - 600,000
8 February 1997: Naseem Hamed vs. Tom Johnson - 650,000
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13 March 1999: Evander Holyfield vs. Lennox Lewis - 400,000
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23 November 2013: Carl Froch vs. George Groves - 47,000
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Do we class KSI vs Logan Paul as boxing? Saw their weigh in on my YouTube feed. They had Bruce Buffer there and everything..
I’m intrigued to see Logan Paul hopefully getting punched in the face a lot as he just has one of those faces but this seems like a total farce.
 

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Do we class KSI vs Logan Paul as boxing? Saw their weigh in on my YouTube feed. They had Bruce Buffer there and everything..
I’m intrigued to see Logan Paul hopefully getting punched in the face a lot as he just has one of those faces but this seems like a total farce.
Falls under my personalized list of 'reasons to go ahead and mutilate myself' more than ' boxing'
 

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For those that like watching old fights I've created my personal list of 50-60 of the best fights of all-time. It's a combination more of the best fights sprinkled in with a few personal favorites (that are also classics) and mostly it's from the last 50 years so easier to access on YouTube and better quality film in general. It's in no particular order but goes down from heaviest weight class down to the smallest weight class. I've put in bold the one's I deem extra special that you may have not seen that I'd prioritize as must see. Nigel Benn vs. Gerald McClellan would have made the list but I can't watch or put it on because of McClellan's state. It's an unbelievable fight that I hate and have never been able to enjoy unfortunately.

Riddick Bowe vs. Evander Holyfield I
Riddick Bowe vs. Andrew Golota II
Muhammad Ali vs. Joe Frazier I & III
Larry Holmes vs. Ken Norton
George Foreman vs. Ron Lyle
Michael Moorer vs. Bert Cooper
Evander Holyfield vs. Dwight Muhammad Qawi I
James Toney vs. Vassily Jirov
Matthew Saad Muhammad vs. Yaqui Lopez II
Matthew Saad Muhammad vs. Marvin Johnson I & II

Matthew Saad Muhammad vs. John Conteh I
Marvin Hagler vs. Thomas Hearns
Marvin Hagler vs. John Mugabi
Carlos Monzon vs. Rodrigo Valdez II
Roberto Duran vs. Iran Barkley
James Toney vs. Mike McCalum I & II
Felix Trinidad vs. Ricardo Mayorga
Felix Trinidad vs. Fernando Vargas
Felix Trinidad vs. David Reid
Shane Mosley vs. Oscar De La Hoya I
Sugar Ray Leonard vs. Thomas Hearns I
Roberto Duran vs. Sugar Ray Leonard I
Aaron Pryor vs. Alexis Arguello I (my choice for greatest boxing match ever)
Julio Cesar Chavez vs. Meldrick Taylor I
Mickey Ward vs. Arturo Gatti I
Ivan Robinson vs. Arturo Gatti I
Arturo Gatti vs. Gabriel Ruelas
Diego Corrales vs. Jose Luis Castillo I
Jose Luis Ramirez vs. Edwin Rosario II
Hector Camacho vs. Edwin Rosario
Bobby Chacon vs. Rafael Limon IV
Bobby Chacon vs. Cornelius Boza-Edwards II

Danny Lopez vs. Mike Ayala
Salvador Sanchez vs. Azumah Nelson
Salvador Sanchez vs. Wilfredo Gomez
Alexis Arguello vs. Ruben Olivares
Nassem Hamed vs. Kevin Kelley
Juan Manuel Marquez vs. Manny Pacquaio I, II & IV
Juan Manuel Marquez vs. Juan Diaz I
Juan Manuel Marquez vs. Marco Antonio Barrera
Marco Antonio Barrera vs. Erik Morales I & III
Erik Morales vs. Manny Pacquaio I
Wilfredo Gomez vs. Lupe Pintor
Rafael Marquez vs. Israel Vazquez I, II, III
Rafael Marquez vs. Mark Johnson I
Rafael Marquez vs. Tim Austin I
Ruben Olivares vs. Chucho Castillo I & II
Ruben Olivares vs. Kazuyoshi Kanazawa II
Eder Jofre vs. Jose Medel I
Eder Jofre vs. Fighting Harada I
Michael Carbajal vs. Humberto Gonzalez I
Ricardo Lopez vs. Rosendo Alvarez II
Roberto Quiroga vs. Akeem Anifowoshe
Unbelievable stuff. Thanks for posting
 

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A never-nude? I thought he just liked cut-offs.
For those that like watching old fights I've created my personal list of 50-60 of the best fights of all-time. It's a combination more of the best fights sprinkled in with a few personal favorites (that are also classics) and mostly it's from the last 50 years so easier to access on YouTube and better quality film in general. It's in no particular order but goes down from heaviest weight class down to the smallest weight class. I've put in bold the one's I deem extra special that you may have not seen that I'd prioritize as must see. Nigel Benn vs. Gerald McClellan would have made the list but I can't watch or put it on because of McClellan's state. It's an unbelievable fight that I hate and have never been able to enjoy unfortunately.

Riddick Bowe vs. Evander Holyfield I
Riddick Bowe vs. Andrew Golota II
Muhammad Ali vs. Joe Frazier I & III
Larry Holmes vs. Ken Norton
George Foreman vs. Ron Lyle
Michael Moorer vs. Bert Cooper
Evander Holyfield vs. Dwight Muhammad Qawi I
James Toney vs. Vassily Jirov
Matthew Saad Muhammad vs. Yaqui Lopez II
Matthew Saad Muhammad vs. Marvin Johnson I & II

Matthew Saad Muhammad vs. John Conteh I
Marvin Hagler vs. Thomas Hearns
Marvin Hagler vs. John Mugabi
Carlos Monzon vs. Rodrigo Valdez II
Roberto Duran vs. Iran Barkley
James Toney vs. Mike McCalum I & II
Felix Trinidad vs. Ricardo Mayorga
Felix Trinidad vs. Fernando Vargas
Felix Trinidad vs. David Reid
Shane Mosley vs. Oscar De La Hoya I
Sugar Ray Leonard vs. Thomas Hearns I
Roberto Duran vs. Sugar Ray Leonard I
Aaron Pryor vs. Alexis Arguello I (my choice for greatest boxing match ever)
Julio Cesar Chavez vs. Meldrick Taylor I
Mickey Ward vs. Arturo Gatti I
Ivan Robinson vs. Arturo Gatti I
Arturo Gatti vs. Gabriel Ruelas
Diego Corrales vs. Jose Luis Castillo I
Jose Luis Ramirez vs. Edwin Rosario II
Hector Camacho vs. Edwin Rosario
Bobby Chacon vs. Rafael Limon IV
Bobby Chacon vs. Cornelius Boza-Edwards II

Danny Lopez vs. Mike Ayala
Salvador Sanchez vs. Azumah Nelson
Salvador Sanchez vs. Wilfredo Gomez
Alexis Arguello vs. Ruben Olivares
Nassem Hamed vs. Kevin Kelley
Juan Manuel Marquez vs. Manny Pacquaio I, II & IV
Juan Manuel Marquez vs. Juan Diaz I
Juan Manuel Marquez vs. Marco Antonio Barrera
Marco Antonio Barrera vs. Erik Morales I & III
Erik Morales vs. Manny Pacquaio I
Wilfredo Gomez vs. Lupe Pintor
Rafael Marquez vs. Israel Vazquez I, II, III
Rafael Marquez vs. Mark Johnson I
Rafael Marquez vs. Tim Austin I
Ruben Olivares vs. Chucho Castillo I & II
Ruben Olivares vs. Kazuyoshi Kanazawa II
Eder Jofre vs. Jose Medel I
Eder Jofre vs. Fighting Harada I
Michael Carbajal vs. Humberto Gonzalez I
Ricardo Lopez vs. Rosendo Alvarez II
Roberto Quiroga vs. Akeem Anifowoshe
Great work mate. I've seen a decent chunk of those but I'll definitely start working my way through some of the others. It's a lower level fight than most of those you listed, but one of my favourite ever fights was Michael Katsidis vs Graham Earl. I'd never seen Katsidis before and I hadn't even planned on sitting down and watching the fight but it was spectacular.
 

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He said he felt disrespected by the amount he was offered for the fight, so decided not to compete. Don't think he's earning touch respect through it...
 

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Great work mate. I've seen a decent chunk of those but I'll definitely start working my way through some of the others. It's a lower level fight than most of those you listed, but one of my favourite ever fights was Michael Katsidis vs Graham Earl. I'd never seen Katsidis before and I hadn't even planned on sitting down and watching the fight but it was spectacular.
Definitely. That fight was great. Katsidis was must watch TV.