You don't walk over teams with PSG's quality. Two draws with them will suffice. Or a win and a loss would be mathematically better.
I think it’s a big ask to go undefeated in that group. 10 points from the opening four games would see us through.
It has been like that for as long as I remember.
Proper group that, looking forward to it. Plenty of tasty times this time around.
We got a nice group. It will be interesting to see how Tuchel handles Klopp's gegenpressing and what Ancellotti does with Napoli. I don't see Red Star having too much fun in this group but who knows.
Valencia & Young (boys), with Ronaldo... BANTZ by UEFA perfectly detailing our decline there haha.
Pretty happy with our group - not easy, but it’s a group where we need to be qualifying from if we are worth our salt...
City with an easy draw. Liverpool with a tough one.
Group D looks like a Europa League group!
City with an easy draw. Liverpool with a tough one.
Group D looks like a Europa League group!
Bring it on... 
I am surprised at how negative you are, I understand the moment but it will be a tough group for everybody starting from Juve that especially at group stage starts often slow. On the paper MU and Juve should go thru but Valencia is the worst team from the third pot that we could pick since Liverpool could not be drawn.
First game in Valencia for Juve, I suspect will be very important to set up the campaign. I hope to be able to find a ticket for the match at Old Trafford, I always wanted to see a game there and never had the chance yet
First game in Valencia for Juve, I suspect will be very important to set up the campaign. I hope to be able to find a ticket for the match at Old Trafford, I always wanted to see a game there and never had the chance yet
Ffs, even when we finally make it up to pot 2, still get these kinds of groups.
Actually exciting but still, wanted at least one team that was a bit poor so we could look to try to rotate a bit for league games as well...
Every chance of still going through but will likely need to have qualification tied up before the last game, as we are away to Barcelona. \
Liverpool's group also difficult but passable and Man Utd should get through.
Actually exciting but still, wanted at least one team that was a bit poor so we could look to try to rotate a bit for league games as well...
Every chance of still going through but will likely need to have qualification tied up before the last game, as we are away to Barcelona. \
Liverpool's group also difficult but passable and Man Utd should get through.
I didn’t look into the draw too much but was it possible for us to get into group with Viktoria Plzen? I think it was right?
If that’s the case I’m pretty fecking upset right now as I’m moving to Plzen next month and this was a chance for me to see us live for the first time nice and easy.
Well, guess Real will have to do.
If that’s the case I’m pretty fecking upset right now as I’m moving to Plzen next month and this was a chance for me to see us live for the first time nice and easy
.Well, guess Real will have to do.
Hard luck, hopefully you’ll get another opportunity soon.I didn’t look into the draw too much but was it possible for us to get into group with Viktoria Plzen? I think it was right?
If that’s the case I’m pretty fecking upset right now as I’m moving to Plzen next month and this was a chance for me to see us live for the first time nice and easy
Well, guess Real will have to do.
All groups are tough apart from city’s. Great to see the group stage throw up some big games. Juventus v Man Utd is one of those fixtures that has great memories
Just wait a couple of months and you might get that chance in the Europa LeagueI didn’t look into the draw too much but was it possible for us to get into group with Viktoria Plzen? I think it was right?
If that’s the case I’m pretty fecking upset right now as I’m moving to Plzen next month and this was a chance for me to see us live for the first time nice and easy
Well, guess Real will have to do.
We’ve been very fortunate the last few years with easy groups. Was always going to happen.
He’s coming home
Love us playing Juve! Two proper clubs...
Tough group though
Totally agree it will be tough but like you said we can beat them but you're right it won't be no walk over, i am confident we can win the group though, Liverpool are set up perfectly for games like these, PSG and Napoli are attacking teams and this may play into our hands
Our attack up against Juve’s defence and vice versa
Letterology warns us that The Old Lady is destined to win this group. First letters of the other teams spell out a supportive abbreviation of its name: Y-U-V.
I don't know what you're complaining about. Besides Lokomotiv Moscow it doesn't really matter who you get from Pot 1. PSV is the worst team probably from pot 3 and Inter aren't anything special. As I see it, Galatasaray, Porto and Schalke lucked out and that group is the weakest. PSG were unlucky to get Liverpool, that group is probably the strongest. A, B and H look stronger than E, F, G. Nothing much between them though.
Agreed. Barca is tough, but Inter/PSV we should be beating.
It's like last season where people declared us out because of Dortmund, despite them not being anything special in a while. Inter Milan are a worse team than we are, they are the ones who should be afraid.
Bayern probably got the easiest group. Ajax and AEK will be comfortable 12 points. Maybe Ajax will get a point last game because Bayern will already have won the group.
Dortmund were in the QFs the season before, Spurs were out in the group stages. There was a reason people expected Dortmund to finish ahead of Spurs.
It's a very similar group to United but I'd rather be in Tottenham's place because United's record against Spanish teams is: 53 games - 13W-22D-18L with a GD of -8. United have only won 3 matches on Spanish soil in 24 tries and we're talking 8 different clubs here, not just Real and Barca.
Valencia arent having one of their hot start seasons they often have. I think they've lost a lot of quality and if they give us problems its because we're doing something wrong.
They will be up for a Champions league game against Manchester United.
Inter have had a slow start but Spalletti is a shrewd tactician. It will be a tough game for the others in that group.
I think Inter are probably better than Valencia 'on paper' (having made a few decent signings in the summer) but La Liga teams are generally pretty good in Europe so it's hard to call.
I'd rather play Barca than Juve though, I feel like we can really get at them like Roma did, though obviously when a team has the likes of Messi and Suarez (even though he's not looking at his best these days) you're always going to be wary.
Either way, I'm excited to play them. Us facing Barca in the CL? This is the stuff Spurs fans dreamed about for a long time. I love Pochettino.
This is a fair point tbf, I guess I was looking at the fact that whilst Dortmund got to the QF, they did only beat Benfica. Admittedly though they did do well against Madrid in the groups.
I always felt we were the stronger team if we could get it together in Europe though, Dortmund had been looking on the decline for a while and we had just finished 2nd. I also felt that whilst the previous season was disappointing, it was probably a good learning curve for a lot of players and I was confident we'd be stronger, just like I expect us to have learned something from being knocked out by Juventus.
2005 all again
This sounds like a fun draw for us. Juventus and Valencia will be challenging and I think we need a few challenges early on to get us up to speed for the later rounds.
Big games might help motivate the players too. Make them realise the level we should consider ourselves. Rather than a straightforward draw where complacency and lack of interest seems to be a problem with this team
Always think 3 home wins needs to be the aim. One away win then is enough. Possibly even home draw with Juve but dropped home points against other seeds makes a group a real struggle
I think you will beat them at home and get a draw at Anfield, Tuchel has experience against Klopp and I'd like to think he's learnt from his mistakes against him in EL a few seasons ago. He knows his tactics and he's got better players this time round.
When did valencia get this good all of a sudden? It can't be considered anything but a massive disappointment to not qualify ahead of them.
It wasn't that long ago we got knocked out by finishing behind Wolfsburg and PSV.
Maybe 'walking it' was the wrong word but i stand by saying that Liverpool this season are comfortably better than PSG and Napoli. Their biggest hurdle will be the mentality in the team.
No idea, I bet 99% of the negative twats on here haven't even watched Valencia for few seasons now. It's just few posters continuing the streamline of negativity in every thread. If we were to crash out somehow, these same posters will be further sticking the boot in Mourinho.
If United can't get out of the group ahead of Valencia then what is the point of being excited for a CL place finish? It is a tricky group but we should be getting through.