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Sat, 22 September 2018

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Valencia can not support the attack he became so fexking shit. And we have no R.W. I think we will miss on top 4.
 

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It's one of our top 3 issues at the moment for sure.

How has a guy who was top 5 In the Premier league not that long ago, come in and not even slightly lifted the team's performance.
Is it him? Is it our setup? Probably a good mix of the two.

It felt like one of those too good to be true deals bringing him in, like Van Persie.
Hasn't come close to backing that up.
Look at Shaqiri at Liverpool, looks a world beater. Mourinho's way of playing and Sanchez himself are both to be blamed as far as I can see. Literally a hungry little nippy player like Anthony Knockaert would shit all over this Sanchez that we're seeing, its just beggars belief it really is.
 

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Mate they’re fecking shite. I’m sorry but they are. Compared to other sides who we should be competing with our MF falls spectacularly short of the level it needs to be at. And I don’t mean just today where for once Fred managed to not be completely useless. In general, is just not good enough really. What are our midfield actually good at?
Pass and move? No
Pressing and winning the ball back? No
Being solid? No
Being a goal threat ? No
Don't agree and you're being incredibly harsh on Fred.
 

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It's one of our top 3 issues at the moment for sure.

How has a guy who was top 5 In the Premier league not that long ago, come in and not even slightly lifted the team's performance.
Is it him? Is it our setup? Probably a good mix of the two.

It felt like one of those too good to be true deals bringing him in, like Van Persie.
Hasn't come close to backing that up.
You don't buy a player who's slowing down with age and last really shined as a striker for Arsenal (and in preseason with us), and play him on the wing expecting him to tear up and down beating defenders. He doesn't have the pace anymore and so he tries lots of early balls into the box which are low percentage balls anyway.

Let him compete for the striker spot with Lukaku, who's also in very poor form. Let Martial and Rashford fight for the LW.
 

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Rubbish performance, played awful all over the park. Lucky to get a point from that, Wolves had the better chances and could have had all 3 points.

Lukaku was terrible, but the service and support he gets from the rest of the team is minimal.
 

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We could have done with Dalot today. Valencia was so low keyed. Yes Dalot will make mistakes, but he offers us something different, and honestly, if we're not going to do well this season, I'd rather we bed him in properly. Val can be the back up, it's time now for him to take a back seat imho.

I also noticed that Lingard and Lukaku were more involved in the game once Sanchez went off. That Fred sub killed us I think.

I know Fellaini was ok today, but the reason I wanted him gone was so Jose wouldn't resort to using him in the lump the ball scenario. If he wasn't there, maybe Jose would be forced to come up with a better Plan B.
Couldn't believe he took Fred off. He was playing well, build his confidence.
 

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The sad truth.
It's all out for 4th this season, and hope for better in the cups.

7 points off (probably) 3 teams come tomorrow, after a mere 6 games? Dropping 7 points, having not played any of the likely top 3, or faced a difficult team away? Pretty worrying.
Yes, I'm not one for kneejerk reactions but looking at it objectively we're not going to sufficiently improve while three fine teams all fall away. If anything we're not going to match them from here so the gap will be wider still come May.
 

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Valencia, Mata, Lingard and Sanchez should be nowhere near our first 11. Hopefully we replace every one of those with some actual quality in the summer because our options going forward just aren’t good enough. I’m actually satisfied with our defence and midfield, but we don’t score enough goals. Jury is out on Lukaku having what it takes too.
 

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People seem to forget that. We had about 7 or 8 4 goal romps pre Christmas.
Those were misleading results though. Yeah they looked comfortable on paper, but they were poor performances, looking clueless, but then we'd score reasonably late then rattle a few in. They were truly frustrating performances, much like the majority of games under Jose.
 

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Does it always have to be one person or factor's fault?

It wasn't Jose's fault that Lukaku looked like a Championship player today. Or that Valencia didn't play well.

Jose needs to take blame, yes. But it's not all on him.
Yeah every game it's always one of the players' fault. Wonder what we pay and employ Mouirnho and his staff for.
 

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Go support Liverpool you fecking cretins. They have won feckall in the past 5 seasons you fecking bellends
Bit like us then really. They might not win anything again, but they look more likely than us. Maybe we should just play away from home.
 

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Lukaku needs to be benched, Valencia has lost his explosivity, which pretty much was all he had in his later years, Lindelof is simply out of his league, Sanchez is such a dissapointment. Mourinho needs to adress all of this.
 

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Yes, I'm not one for kneejerk reactions but looking at it objectively we're not going to sufficiently improve while three fine teams all fall away. If anything we're not going to match them from here so the gap will be wider still come May.
It's very worrying, that this is the result of 2 years of Jose work.
How long is this project going to take, as you could very easily say we still need 4-5 starters.
 

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Sanchez is well off it, his form has dipped alarmingly.

I thought we'd signed a gem with him but he needs a massive kick up the jacksy.
On today's showing it's going to be a long long season.
 

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It's very worrying, that this is the result of 2 years of Jose work.
How long is this project going to take, as you could very easily say we still need 4-5 starters.
That is why Ed should have backed Jose on who he needs the past couple of windows. If Ed wants to do it slowly, then we as fans will have to be patient.
 

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Thank Feck for DDG. He kept us in that match. 2 or 3 good saves from Dave helped it be as good as it was, which wasn't very good.

Wolves look like a good mid table team and they bossed us at Old Trafford. God help us.
 

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It could have been worse. You lot could have supported murdering unemployed fecking scum or even city. We will support you evermore MUFC
Enjoy a quick 10mins more posting pal.

Cos after that you're time on here is over.
 

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Thank Feck for DDG. He kept us in that match. 2 or 3 good saves from Dave helped it be as good as it was, which wasn't very good.

Wolves look like a good mid table team and they bossed us at Old Trafford. God help us.
I'm not sure they bossed us. They had 2 good chances so wouldn't call it bossing. Doesn't matter though, swings and roundabouts or whatever. My head hurts.
 

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Mourinho’s midfield rotation after halftime changed the outcome of this game.

His eager to get that second goal cost us their equaliser. Don’t get why he would change Fellaini’s position from protecting the back four to play more forward - leaving Fred to cover that lower space instead.

I thought the first half display from our midfield trio looked good and very promising. Fellaini looked better than Matic - keeping it nice and easy. Letting Fred and Pogba to do what they do best.

Mourinho should’ve put more time and faith in that midfield and instead substitute one, or two, of the front three players if he wanted a second goal early.

Lukaku, Sanchez, Lingard and Lindelöf wasn’t at their best today. Valencia was ok but we need so much more from our right back. Shaw was very good, but I still want him to put another gear in the attack.

Overall, I’m not that disappointed over our play. Just the result and the lack of attacking ability from our forward players that is frustrating.
I don't think it was the wrong decision to change it up. We were going nowhere with our passing in the first half. Most of the passes were between Fellaini, Smalling and Lindelöf. All three are so slow and so imaginative with their passing that something needed to change to speed up our play. We were too pedestrian in the first half. The change actually helped us up the pace and tempo of the game. We looked good in the first 10-15 minutes until the Wolves goal.

What was shocking was what ensued after their goal. We were completely lost for ideas and simply kept hoofing the ball to Fellaini for some reason. We crowded the middle areas and repeatedly only looked for Lukaku or Fellaini. It was baffling to see what was going on. It was bewildering to see us so narrow. We simply didn't know what to do.
 

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Thank Feck for DDG. He kept us in that match. 2 or 3 good saves from Dave helped it be as good as it was, which wasn't very good.

Wolves look like a good mid table team and they bossed us at Old Trafford. God help us.
They didn't in any way boss us. That's just your United supporter side thinking whoa they had the ball more than these sorts of teams should.
Even their fans wouldn't say they bossed us, it was equal, with us having a bit more possession if not chances.
 

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This is how far we've fallen. And we're not finished yet, believe me. This is going to be a long, hard season with little comfort.
 

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Our attack today was so poor it's unbelievable. Lukaku can't pass a ball to a team mate, Sanchez can't stop losing the ball every time he touches it, Lingard couldn't find the spaces he generally gets into.

With those kind of sub par performances, no wonder we are dropping such cheap points. So frustrating. Especially after we had the first goal and the onus was on Wolves to find an equalizer.
 

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Our attack today was so poor it's unbelievable. Lukaku can't pass a ball to a team mate, Sanchez can't stop losing the ball every time he touches it, Lingard couldn't find the spaces he generally gets into.

With those kind of sub par performances, no wonder we are dropping such cheap points. So frustrating. Especially after we had the first goal and the onus was on Wolves to find an equalizer.
That just wasn't true of this game.
 

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Boy, that escalated quickly!
The hilarious irony, is this guy is on another thread in August giving it loads of "oh no one should sing about tragedies etc", then he's shown his true colours.

Brilliant.
 

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Look at Shaqiri at Liverpool, looks a world beater. Mourinho's way of playing and Sanchez himself are both to be blamed as far as I can see. Literally a hungry little nippy player like Anthony Knockaert would shit all over this Sanchez that we're seeing, its just beggars belief it really is.
Well, obviously not for us though :lol:
 

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I'm not sure they bossed us. They had 2 good chances so wouldn't call it bossing. Doesn't matter though, swings and roundabouts or whatever. My head hurts.
They didn't in any way boss us. That's just your United supporter side thinking whoa they had the ball more than these sorts of teams should.
Even their fans wouldn't say they bossed us, it was equal, with us having a bit more possession if not chances.
They had the better chances. DDG was probably our MoM. Apart from Fred's Freekick I can't remember that many times that their GK kept us out. They are at best a decent mid table team.
 

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Can’t even call myself upset. Mildly purturbed. Why? Because we are at our level, fighting to get into top 4. Any bigger aspirations than that is simply not realistic.

Lukaku is not the answer.
Valencia is sadly well past it and sooner Dalot can take over, the better.
Sanchez needs to be benched.
 

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Can’t even call myself upset. Mildly purturbed. Why? Because we are at our level, fighting to get into top 4. Any bigger aspirations than that is simply not realistic.

Lukaku is not the answer.
Valencia is sadly well past it and sooner Dalot can take over, the better.
Sanchez needs to be benched.
De Gea and Pogba are the two standouts by a mile.

The rest all range from solid performers through to those who at best should be squad players.
I think Jose should get the rest of this season, but we should be having a think about whether that's a good time to go elsewhere.
 

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one draw and all the positivity from last 3 games vanishes. Sack Jose. Sell everyone.
 

Man of the Match

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Score Predictions

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  • Man Utd win
  • Wolves win
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Detailed Results

  • 33% Man Utd 2:0 Wolves
  • 15% Man Utd 2:1 Wolves
  • 13% Man Utd 3:0 Wolves
  • 12% Man Utd 3:1 Wolves
  • 6% Man Utd 1:0 Wolves
  • 5% Man Utd 4:0 Wolves
  • 5% Man Utd 1:1 Wolves
  • 3% Man Utd 5:0 Wolves
  • 2% Man Utd 0:0 Wolves
  • 2% Man Utd 4:1 Wolves
  • 1% Man Utd 1:2 Wolves
  • 1% Man Utd 0:2 Wolves
  • 1% Man Utd 3:2 Wolves
  • 1% Man Utd 0:5 Wolves
  • 1% Man Utd 2:2 Wolves
  • 0% Man Utd 0:4 Wolves
  • 0% Man Utd 2:4 Wolves
  • 0% Man Utd 5:2 Wolves
  • 0% Man Utd 0:1 Wolves
  • 0% Man Utd 1:3 Wolves
  • 0% Man Utd 2:3 Wolves
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Possession
65% 35%
Shots
15 11
Shots on Target
6 8
Corners
5 4
Fouls
5 17

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