Pogba's clique vs Mourinho vs players who are so lazy they can't even be arsed to pick a side.
Cnuts, the lot of them.
Cnuts, the lot of them.
Splits in the camp
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Oh god no. He's done.
Is there a clip of what Rio said on BT?
Source?
Currently and beside De Gea, there's absolutely no one in the club, players or manager, that deserves to side with from the fans. I'll drive Mourinho and anyone of his players to the air port any time.
How much more does he think he can get? Can't think of anyone that plays more than him in terms of minutes other than Pogba, Young, Valencia and De Gea.
He's practically getting more minutes than some of his performances deserve.
I know but maybe he's thinking that he should be getting a chance over Lukaku? It's all just speculative obviously. Truth is, we've not a clue what Rashford thinks.
Lukaku might as well join the other camp. Some of those misses this season look intentional
The camp looks pretty unanimous to me... other than Young, Fellaini and De Gea - it is tough to see many who are running through walls for Jose at the moment. If there was a genuine split, if Pogba comes off.. you'd see a huge reaction. At the moment, whether he plays or not.. the team doesn't look arsed.
Were. They used to be inseparable on Pogba's Instagram but you don't see anything of Lukaku anymore.
The divisions run far deeper than the obvious player fallouts. Who on the board decided to renew Mourinhos contract only to not back him in the summer? Now had he had loftier ambitions than Harry fecking Maguire then he may have been backed. But seriously, there has to be a split somewhere at board level? The fans are also now fully at each other’s throats with their being two very extreme camps. All of this, to keep a massively underperforming manager. Madness.
Interesting.
Don't think we've got a clue what any of the players other than Pogba thinks. For all we know Lukaku and Sanchez also think Mourinho's setting them up to fail by not playing them to their strengths. Fellaini's the one player I can't imagine having a problem with the manager.
Manager should be held responsible for not galvanizing the squad he built.
Whatever camps the players belong to, they at least are united in their shitness on the pitch.
This is the exact same shite that happened at the end of his tenure at his last two clubs. It’s fecking ridiculous.
I've thought for a while it seemed strange as Pogba posts quite a lot of the things he does in his own time with players like Shaw, Pereira, Bailly, Lindelof and Fellaini. Lukaku always used to be there.
I also heard something about the cliques that have formed a week or so ago from a friend who works for the club.
Oh really? Could you elaborate on that? Or is that all you heard?
I don't think it's a split in camp to the point that people are not talking to each other & hate each other.
It's more a division about the manager & the football being played.
Pogba & Lukaku might be the best of friends - but ask if Jose should go & it's obvious who says yes or no.
Ultimately that question only splits the players in half.
It's more a division about the manager & the football being played.
Pogba & Lukaku might be the best of friends - but ask if Jose should go & it's obvious who says yes or no.
Ultimately that question only splits the players in half.
I mean anyone who doesn’t think this club is extremely divided right now is very naieve. Some won’t accept it until someone from the club texts it to them but open your fecking eyes. Nothing concrete will come out until Jose is gone.
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That's about it, there are a group of players who hate playing for Mourinho and it's quite a bad atmosphere.
Just come back from the game, and I've never seen our away end as toxic as it was today when Pogba was subbed. Both Jose and Pogba have brought it on themselves with their egotistical and childish cold war in the media and the fans are, like you say, definitely divided now. This has all the hallmarks of the Jose meltdown and the blame is on Jose and the board. Absolutely disgusted with what I saw today.
Just like his last two jobs.
We've only got ourselves to blame if that's the case. This isn't new with this guy.
And my civil war thread was locked while shite about us going on a run after the Spurs game has remained open
Oh really, how bad was it?
Rio and Scholes aren't helping things by saying that the players don't have the quality, even if it's true.
This split is bananas.
Honestly, it was bad. effing and blinding, fecking him off and giving the wanker hand motion, even some boos as he made his way towards Jose. I've seen us exasperated before but never have I seen it get to the level of us actually booing one of our own. A lot of them have been taken in by the media and by Jose's PR onslaught, post-Spurs, IMO. He definitely had a bad game, but he literally had nothing in front of him. Lukaku was MIA and Martial was starved of space, and the less said about that god awful midfield, the better - it actually brought back flashes of Sevilla which was the last time I had that wtf feeling when I saw a lineup.
Cheers for the info. Jesus that’s bad alright I wasn’t aware so many are taking Jose’s side as it seems mental to me. The man is making a mockery of this club and I agree, when I saw the lineup I was stunned I really was. This is really turning into a fecking circus and I find it incomprehensible how so many buy into Jose’s self preservation PR bollox.
That's fecking depressing to read. They sound absolutely delusional.
Away fans might well push out one of the most talented midfielders of this generation in order to back a failing, toxic manager who has disrespected the entire club to save his own face. Well done, best supporters in the league indeed.
Honestly, up until Spurs I don't think many were backing Jose at all (post-Brighton I said that the fans were pretty much split three ways between the board, Jose, and the players, with most blaming a combination of Jose and the board) and then he did that utterly transparent bollocks with the Stretty and it literally turned 180 degrees, with the plane banner the next game and it's been building ever since. I just hope it doesn't lead to Pogba going off the back of fan pressure because if he left, feck me will we be in trouble. People can say we lost Becks, RVN, Cantona, et al but we lost them from a position of strength - not when we're fecking midtable!
Not helping what? It makes it hard to defend your primmadonas?
Never Pogbas fault. Always Mourinho. Ones never fail others always fail. It's funny to see.
All hail the lord of truth and enlightenment.
That's exactly my fear. The media and Jose have well and truly fecked us. The backing of the manager is the one I don't get. These players are not bad at all. The world cup showed that. Yet Jose can't seem to get a tune out of them, surely that is what they should be questioning, not Pogba - who if it wasn't for the presence of, we'd be fecking nearer 17th than 7th!
Jesus that’s depressing to read. Is some applause in your direction really all it takes to brainwash these people?
That makes for sad reading. Can't really blame the fans though, everyone has their breaking point.
Pogba and Jose fighting this 'war' to the press emphasizes how poorly this club has been run post SAF. Both of them should be kicked out of the club if you ask me.
Cheers.