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Imagine the shitstorm if the club did anything other than deny the Zidane story. They would basically have to sack Jose immediately because it would completely obliterate his ability to continue managing - with some pretty big fixtures on the horizon.
 

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I think they already approached him, but are just playing the same crap game they played with LVG. Instead of sacking the current manager immediately and get someone in, they'll keep supporting the manager in public while doing everything with their negotiation with another manager, wasting a full season.
I think he will be gone after the next 5-6 league games (not counting cup games where we may nick a win) as its' obvious opposition teams have figured him out and the players are not up for it.

I don't think Ed will wait till end of season. He can't. Back during LvG's tenure, while LvG was fecking up, Chelsea and City were also dropping shitloads of points which meant that we were in the Top 4 race despite the feck-ups, quite miraculously. However, the current Top 6 are quite strong (except us) -- even Spurs and Arsenal are picking up points at a rapid pace. So, if Jose lasts till Xmas, we could be 12-15 points off 4th spot, and there would be no chance of competing for it.

It is a new situation for Mr Accountant, usually he is happy to sack managers at the end of the season or when Top 4 is mathematically impossible, but the league has gotten a lot stronger since Moyes' and LvG's times, and the other Top 6 teams don't drop a lot of points to give us chances.
 

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If the results continue the way they are, I don't see an issue with getting Zidane in until the end of the season at least. I share a lot of the concerns people have with him and whether or not he can produce with players outside of what he had at Madrid but if the results keep going as they are, what do we have to lose?

He comes in and it carries on the way it is, at least we haven't invested in him as a permanent manager. If on the other hand results start to improve, he will have earned the position.
Mate, the guy just won 3 Champions League trophies in a row managing arguably the biggest club in the world. Why would he accept to cut short his sabbatical to join this toxic environment on an interim basis? I think we can get him, but there's no way he'd accept joining on some sort of short term contract, the guy hardly needs to prove himself and at this moment probably has the opportunity to manage for any club in Europe where there's a vacancy.
 

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Unexpectedly Juve's General Director Marotta confirmed he's leaving, can Zidane be involved in some managerial changes in Juve's structure?
 

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Imagine the shitstorm if the club did anything other than deny the Zidane story. They would basically have to sack Jose immediately because it would completely obliterate his ability to continue managing - with some pretty big fixtures on the horizon.
For the board to contact a potential replacement, whilst Jose remains the current manager and firmly under contract, would be completely unethical. No way they will admit to that.
 

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For the board to contact a potential replacement, whilst Jose remains the current manager and firmly under contract, would be completely unethical. No way they will admit to that.
Its not unethical to hold preliminary talks with another candidate as a hedge in case Mourinho continues to slide into the abyss. What would be unethical would be for them to allow it to become public.
 

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Its not unethical to hold preliminary talks with another candidate as a hedge in case Mourinho continues to slide into the abyss. What would be unethical would be for them to allow it to become public.
That's precisely what I meant.
 

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With that I'd say the chances for United having made a move went from 10% to 20%.
 

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I dunno, not sold on this, I just don't want us to go for whatever big name is available at any given time again, we need a proper plan.
 
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What is Zidanes brand of football? RM didn't have a particular style when I watched them. I want us to have a style.
 

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Imagine the shitstorm if the club did anything other than deny the Zidane story. They would basically have to sack Jose immediately because it would completely obliterate his ability to continue managing - with some pretty big fixtures on the horizon.
Aye means nothing. We were really uncertain if LvG would be sacked cause the club just flat out denied it. I mean even LvG was surprised. But yeah we're obviously working behind the scenes for when the inevitable happens.
 

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I think they already approached him, but are just playing the same crap game they played with LVG. Instead of sacking the current manager immediately and get someone in, they'll keep supporting the manager in public while doing everything with their negotiation with another manager, wasting a full season.

Come on mate, Ed needs a good 3 months to do a spreadsheet and few charts and work on the finances on his bid. So there's a few months of preparation before we present our bid to Zidane.
 

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I think he will be gone after the next 5-6 league games (not counting cup games where we may nick a win) as its' obvious opposition teams have figured him out and the players are not up for it.

I don't think Ed will wait till end of season. He can't. Back during LvG's tenure, while LvG was fecking up, Chelsea and City were also dropping shitloads of points which meant that we were in the Top 4 race despite the feck-ups, quite miraculously. However, the current Top 6 are quite strong (except us) -- even Spurs and Arsenal are picking up points at a rapid pace. So, if Jose lasts till Xmas, we could be 12-15 points off 4th spot, and there would be no chance of competing for it.

It is a new situation for Mr Accountant, usually he is happy to sack managers at the end of the season or when Top 4 is mathematically impossible, but the league has gotten a lot stronger since Moyes' and LvG's times, and the other Top 6 teams don't drop a lot of points to give us chances.
If we are 15 points off top 4 and highly unlikely to achieve it then it makes even less sense to sack him then! If that were the scenario we may as well wait until mathematically inpossible to substantially reduce the pay out
 

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Would be more expensive to miss out on champions league next year if we keep him for that long..
He’s saying that if United are 15 pts behind top 4 then no manager can get them back in, so why spent 15m to pay off Mourinho?
 

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It will be Zidane.

No plan, just a big name manager to pander to Pogba, Martial etc.
 

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I honestly don't see things working out well with Zidane, not long term anyway. We might get a good year or two? I just want a manager to part ways with us not being a total fecking mess.
 

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The article Ducker was talking about :

Mourinho has retained the backing of the United executive vice chairman Ed Woodward, who is desperate to avoid a managerial change during the season, but that support will face a severe test if United’s fortunes continue to plummet.
There are growing doubts over whether Mourinho can arrest the club’s alarming side, not least given the opposition that now exists towards the manager in the dressing room, and fears are rife that his third season at Old Trafford is now at risk of imploding as it did at Real Madrid and in his second spell as Chelsea manager, when he did not make it to Christmas.
The only important bits.
 

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I hope Zidane stays well clear of your mess and patiently waits for the Juve job.
Ugh as much as I hate to say it, it doesn't seem like a difficult choice really unfortunately (although obviously I cant say as I dont know his motivations). Either wait patiently to go to a club you know and are loved at to take over an excellent and stable team that dominates their league or jump into the caldron at united with a major rebuilding job and doubt over every level at the club....tough one alright. Much bigger rewards with doing it at United yes but its a much bigger risk too for him.
 

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I would love him here, but i doubt it will happen. Unless he sees it as a challenge, the job is difficult, probably the most difficult job in top football? Takes some balls to take it, because if he waits, he can pick the job he wants (Must not be a managerial role per se).
 

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If the club think the chances of Mourinho arresting this slide are greater than 0%, they are really the worst board in football.
 

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I also hate this notion that it has to be Zidane. Would be negligent if the club aren't establishing back channels with Pochettino.
 

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I also hate this notion that it has to be Zidane. Would be negligent if the club aren't establishing back channels with Pochettino.
Agree though none of the managers we have hired since Fergie were under contract by the time they joined us. Zidane seems to fit Woodward's bill which is annoying as hell.
 

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If the club think the chances of Mourinho arresting this slide are greater than 0%, they are really the worst board in football.
They're not a football board - as long as the money piles in they don't care what Woody does - and Ed doesn't want to admit that he's picked the wrong person again.
 

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They're not a football board - as long as the money piles in they don't care what Woody does - and Ed doesn't want to admit that he's picked the wrong person again.
If they wasn’t bothered we would have had Mourinho in the first place. They are not that stupid. Mourinho hopeFully will be gone soon. I just hope if the right man is not available we don’t rush and just get a caretaker for now.
 

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If the club wasn't being run by incompetent twats we would have had a new manager in view as at last season and on stand already by now. But knowing Woody he'll probably start making calls the day after he fires Jose.
On topic now that I really think about it, I'm not sure Zidane will be good for us.
 

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I'd happily let Neville and Scholes take the reins at this point