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The reaction in the studio was greatHell has well and truly frozen over.
Souness actually complimented POGBA
The reaction in the studio was greatHell has well and truly frozen over.
Souness actually complimented POGBA
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He did a lot more than just tackling. Say what you want about him as a pundit, but if you ask any of your fellow older supporters on here they might enlighten you on how good Souness was as a top player. First player on the team sheet.Dinosaur big one. Remember him planting the flag in the centre circle in Turkey, always been a clown. He wouldn't be able to compete like he did in today's game as tackling has gone. Sky need a revamp big time, they got rid of keys and grey, time for this guy to go as well.
Agreed. Way more than a hard man.He did a lot more than just tackling. Say what you want about him as a pundit, but if you ask any of your fellow older supporters on here they might enlighten you on how good Souness was as a top player. First player on the team sheet.
He was, but it was a different game then. He couldn't play that way now and his idea of how others should play is outdated.I remember him as a player and make no mistake he was a top player. As a pundit he's an absolute whopper though.
Yeah, I saw him get away with a ton of leg breakers and I heard that was almost on a weekly basis. It's funny when I see Liverpool fans who grew up in the 90's romanticize about how great they were and played beautiful football, "like the Brazilians" they say when in reality it was ugly, often defensive with cnuts like Souness kicking players off the park and not to mention their using back passes to their goalie all the time. That club definitely loves a good PR team to twist everything favorably and their fans lap it up.He was, but it was a different game then. He couldn't play that way now and his idea of how others should play is outdated.
One of my favourite ever bits of commentary — "O-oh! That is a booking!... That is certainly a booking"Yeah, I saw him get away with a ton of leg breakers and I heard that was almost on a weekly basis.
To be fair to Souness that oppo player slides right into himOne of my favourite ever bits of commentary — "O-oh! That is a booking!... That is certainly a booking"
That clip actually made my blood curdleOne of my favourite ever bits of commentary — "O-oh! That is a booking!... That is certainly a booking"
Disgusting cnut. The commentator stating it should be a yellow card is a disgrace too.One of my favourite ever bits of commentary — "O-oh! That is a booking!... That is certainly a booking"
Absolute thug. That would get you more than three matches these days.One of my favourite ever bits of commentary — "O-oh! That is a booking!... That is certainly a booking"
So what you don't have to enlighten me on anything, I watched him from the late 70s to 80s and along with most players of the era when tackling was tackling that was what he did! That's why he was 1st on your team sheet. You rate him I don't and I suppose Leeds Utd were playing football like Barcelona, in the 70s ??He did a lot more than just tackling. Say what you want about him as a pundit, but if you ask any of your fellow older supporters on here they might enlighten you on how good Souness was as a top player. First player on the team sheet.
We could show the one where he lamped that guy off the ball (and broke his jaw?) but cameras didnt properly catch it.Horrendous under-valuing of Souness the player. The only clips that ever get shown on here are of him kicking some poor sod in the air but he was a great forward passer of the ball and a formidable leader. He played in Serie A when it was the best league in the world and was crucial for Liverpool when they were peerless.
He's turned into an insufferable twat since, and was probably one then, but you can't knock his playing career.
KeeeristWe could show the one where he lamped that guy off the ball (and broke his jaw?) but cameras didnt properly catch it.
Yes, he was a very good player though never the best in the team and (imo) not the best midfielder either. Also, his "replacement" (Molby) improved the team.
Did ok at Sampdoria, scored a couple of goals, think they won a cup? Don't think he set Seria A alight.
Important to Liverpool? ... definitely. Critical? .... no.
And you're right about him being a twat but he hasn't become one, he's just honed it to perfection from when he was a player. An angry man..... should chill, for his health if nothing else.
People are starting to do the same with Keane since people only want to talk about his aggression and not his Footballing ability.Horrendous under-valuing of Souness the player. The only clips that ever get shown on here are of him kicking some poor sod in the air but he was a great forward passer of the ball and a formidable leader. He played in Serie A when it was the best league in the world and was crucial for Liverpool when they were peerless.
He's turned into an insufferable twat since, and was probably one then, but you can't knock his playing career.
I’ve noticed that too. Another great player and leader but can be a prick on tv. They were thugs only because they could be in their time but above that they were great players. Souness was above everyone in England at his position for the years he played at Lfc.People are starting to do the same with Keane since people only want to talk about his aggression and not his Footballing ability.
Yeah, I know he won trophies though personally I've never classed a player by his medals (Sammy Lee got 3 leagues and 2 ECs in 4 years) - they had a great team stacked with very good/great players. Depends on def of who you count as very good and who as great I guess. Saw a bit of him but my cousin and his Dad were LFC fans (married in, nothing we could do) and watched them home and away. Loved his leadership, ferocity, drive (which obviously helped) but wouldn't class him as an LFC great .... again, it's where you draw the line on "great". Opinions eh?Keeerist
Nope. He was great player. 7 seasons 5 leagues 3 ECs and captain for the best team in Europe over that period. Hard as nails but a great passer of the ball. Critical for Liverpool
Aye true. There's only so much people can excuse or play down the individuals within that Liverpool team before it gets to the point where their dominance of European football for a decade would have been simply impossible. There are plenty of hatchet men from the 1970s and and 1980s who wouldn't survive in the modern game, but Souness isn't one of them. He was the iron fist in the velvet glove, knew when to impose himself physically and what he could get away with inside the rules of the time. It's little different to the likes of Keane, Davids or Vieira who pushed the rules as much as they could - and often exceeded them - to stamp their control on games. But equally Souness could play and bossed midfields across England and Europe for many years, going toe-to-toe with a great generation of central midfielders starring Paul Breitner and Paulo Roberto Falcao and still bringing home all of those European Cups.Horrendous under-valuing of Souness the player. The only clips that ever get shown on here are of him kicking some poor sod in the air but he was a great forward passer of the ball and a formidable leader. He played in Serie A when it was the best league in the world and was crucial for Liverpool when they were peerless.
He's turned into an insufferable twat since, and was probably one then, but you can't knock his playing career.
Is he wrong though?On SSN reacting to the sacking and goes on yet another rant about Pogba. Key points for those who missed it:
God given athleticism
Major disappointment
Needs to take a look at himself
Going off his comments after the game on Sunday, souness seemed to show genuine admiration for the potential Pogba has, but is deeply frustrated by what he perceives as his attitude which is holding him back. Think his words went along the lines that Pogba should be the best midfield midfielder in the PremOn SSN reacting to the sacking and goes on yet another rant about Pogba. Key points for those who missed it:
God given athleticism
Major disappointment
Needs to take a look at himself
Only thing there I would disagree with, is the point about athleticism - goes back to the racism debate, really. Pogba is a tall, strong player, but what makes him special is his technique, vision and flair, not his physical attributes.On SSN reacting to the sacking and goes on yet another rant about Pogba. Key points for those who missed it:
God given athleticism
Major disappointment
Needs to take a look at himself
Rubbish - you can have all the skill in the world, but if you can't run, and have no stamina you can't be a pro footballer. Athleticism is part of your genes. With all the training in the world, I'm never going to be a great 1500m runner or a shot putter - I don't have the genes. To be a top player you need both.Only thing there I would disagree with, is the point about athleticism - goes back to the racism debate, really. Pogba is a tall, strong player, but what makes him special is his technique, vision and flair, not his physical attributes.
Of course you need both - I just find it silly to highlight Pogba's athleticism as the main reason for his potential, when you consider what he can do with the ball when he is on form.Rubbish - you can have all the skill in the world, but if you can't run, and have no stamina you can't be a pro footballer. Athleticism is part of your genes. With all the training in the world, I'm never going to be a great 1500m runner or a shot putter - I don't have the genes. To be a top player you need both.
I didn't read whatever Souness said, but duty thats mm is quoting him. Souness knows what a skillful player can can be, that's why he's frustrated by him. I'm prepared to be proved wrong, but surely he didn't say his potential is just down to his physical attributes?Of course you need both - I just find it silly to highlight Pogba's athleticism as the main reason for his potential, when you consider what he can do with the ball when he is on form.
I didn't read whatever Souness said, but duty thats mm is quoting him. Souness knows what a skillful player can can be, that's why he's frustrated by him. I'm prepared to be proved wrong, but surely he didn't say his potential is just down to his physical attributes?
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/f...verpool-slammed-transfers-rumours-gossip-news"We get kidded by his athleticism"
"When you see him move he is an absolute Rolls Royce. Does he have a football brain?
"He has still to develop his football brain."