So true. The hiring of Moyes was another. In fact, as time has gone on, he has contradicted himself so many times on that nightmare.As much as most of us love the bloke, Ferguson (at times) always did talk a fair amount of shit. Particularly in his books...
He’s many things but infallible he isn’t.
I remember seeing something like that ages ago.Isn't that quote ancient?
Where’s that quote from?, also he’s obviously wrong, that’s just his opinion .
fecking Jose and his bullshit, again.
If he'd said that he would be closer to being correct than he was with this statement (this quote is prehistoric).If in all his time he only had 4 World class players, imagine what he'd make of our current squad. He'd probably say that every single one of them is Championship level, at best.
There isn't a single season in Giggs career where he reached Messi Best Pele levels.I agree with Fergie, there is the generic world class term and there is actual world class.
Scholes Giggs Ronaldo and Cantona were street levels above the rest. Vidic Rio Peter Evra were the best at that specific time but I wouldn't not put the close to Messi Best Pele. I think that's what Fergie is trying to define, untouchable players.
If you read the whole page he makes it clear he is only talking about offensive creative players.I do think a lot of us fans throw the phrase “world Class” about too often, in such a way it’s lost it’s value. I agree with the 4 he’s mentioned in that they could have played for any team at anytime in the world if they wanted to, where Keane for example was a great player for us, his value was more in his leadership rather than just his pure ability on a ball, that wasn’t to shabby either.
I would add Rio in with that 4, I’m really surprised he left him out
Rooney may not have been the greatest technically but in his prime he was the best CF in the world. He was unplayable. When you say 'technical' you mean he couldn't pass a ball like them, not a great first touch and couldn't dribble like Messi and Iniesta (Not many players could/can). Setting the bar at Xavi, Iniesta, Messi is ridiculous as not many players are/were/ will ever be as good as them 3.Given that Fergie mentions Ronaldo, the quote isn't too old to be relevant.
Not sure about Rio and Keane. But he's arguably right about Rooney. Rooney would look out of place at Barcelona and Real for his technical limitations. Because of his style he was loved by fans and a big hero (and rightly so for his contributions) but he would look bang average technically wise if put next to Xavi, Iniesta, Messi. Giggs and Scholes were closer to that level.
Keane would have got in any midfield in the world in his prime. Schmeichel was the best GK in the world for a while so that makes him World Class.I do think a lot of us fans throw the phrase “world Class” about too often, in such a way it’s lost it’s value. I agree with the 4 he’s mentioned in that they could have played for any team at anytime in the world if they wanted to, where Keane for example was a great player for us, his value was more in his leadership rather than just his pure ability on a ball, that wasn’t to shabby either.
I would add Rio in with that 4, I’m really surprised he left him out
It is.Isn't that quote ancient?
He did, but I don't agree that its just attacking players who can be considered world class within football. Each position in the game has a ranking in terms of who is best and therefore you are going to have a small number of players in each position who are the best in the world and therefore world class.https://www.goal.com/en/news/1862/p...Ferguson-explains-four-world-class-players-at
He did qualify his comment.
That and their longevity, which is fair enough but perhaps not in most peoples' thoughts when considering 'world class'.This might be controversial but he says Giggs and Scholes because they were like loyal pets to him.
I agree, if Giggs and Scholes were WC then a lot more United players should be.That and their longevity, which is fair enough but perhaps not in most peoples' thoughts when considering 'world class'.
Neither Giggs or Scholes ever hit the heights that Keane did from 98-02, RVN did from 01-04, or Schmeichel from 92-96. And I would argue Rio from 06-09.
That was a very short prime then. One can say the same for Diego Costa: outscored Messi and Ronaldo and won the title in La Liga. And?Rooney in his prime he was the best CF in the worl.
Not really. It sounds similar to how I think about it. World Class meaning the player is in the top 2 or 3 in their position in the world and would get into a first team squad if you could pick from any footballers on the planet with no restriction on finances.His definition of world class is unique.
You've got to be kidding?My definition of worldclass is top 3 or at worst be top 5 in his position. Simply put, if you form a world 11, he would be in fierce contention for most pundits and neutrals. That said, i would never consider Giggs and Cantona close to that category. Both were never close to that bar consistently enough and are incredibly overrated by our fans. Schmeichel is a shoo-in, with Keane, Rio and Vidic in the next tier, and Giggs in the following tier.
Totally agree, just posting for info/clarity on comments.He did, but I don't agree that its just attacking players who can be considered world class within football. Each position in the game has a ranking in terms of who is best and therefore you are going to have a small number of players in each position who are the best in the world and therefore world class.
You've got to be kidding?
I'm not sure Cantona makes the top 3-5 in his position at any time (fierce competition), but to say Giggs didn't at anytime during his career is serious revisionism.