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Fred is a bench option and he cost £50M+!
The Saudi Takeover Rumor Thread
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Fred is a bench option and he cost £50M+!
I bet we wouldn't.
No one was talking about morals when they were taking us on a merry ride round the Etihad a few days ago.
I honestly don't wan't this takeover because of money - we are capable of spending millions as it is right now. I just want a breath or fresh air, change, a proper structure, people that actually care and know how to run a football club. I just want change.
It's a pity that the Arabs are the only ones capable and are likely to pay what is needed to initiate a takeover.
It will indeed.
We shall go toe to toe in the transfer market with any club on the planet, to compete for the best players.
The best managers will want to come and work with the players/money we have.
The best facilities.
All translating into better results and trophies.
It will indeed be a dark dark day, when we are funded by a sugar daddy and I for one would never want to see the above happen to MUFC.
Who needs Varane, when you can have Phil Jones and Chris Smalling.
Against City, we had £50m, £38m midfielders and a £75m striker on the bench. An £89m midfielder at home too. The Glazers are spending, I admit.
This thread tells me far more about so many posters on this site than any discussion about our players or managers ever could.
I am heartened to see how many posters, who I’ve both agreed and disagreed with in the past, that are against this potential happening.
I am heartened to see how many posters, who I’ve both agreed and disagreed with in the past, that are against this potential happening.
Whether the rumours are true or not, i cannot believe how many on here would be happy for a regime as corrupt and barbaric as the house of saud to take over our football club.
Consider my mind well and truely boggled
Consider my mind well and truely boggled
Would genuinely stop supporting Manchester United and remove the United badge as my desktop background
Well Said @Cloud7
My mind is more boggled by the comments like "Rather see us in non league", "I will start supporting another club" etc etc. I am completely against Saudis taking over but would I stop supporting the club? No way. You can support the club without supporting the owners, how can you just "stop supporting the club" or switch to some other one? Crazy.
Nah, I'm totally down with executing critical journalists in other countries and stoning women to death. Blessing in disguise amirite??
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Hear hear
You can stop watching football, especially if your interest in it has been on the wane for a while anyway.
I agree the non league, div 1 or whatever are a bit ott but i would lose a lot interest if i'm honest, that would be more to do with my conscience than anything else. I would still want United to win, i just don't think i would enjoy it the same. For the past 10 years all on here have been slating City ( fairly imo ) but now want the exact same thing here,not for me ta.
We have the highest paid manager in the world right now! Two of our signings are in the top 10 most expensive transfers of all time. Both players still play for United, too! (PSG, Barcelona, Juventus and Real Madrid each have two transfers on the list).
We can go toe-to-toe with any club, it's not even a full year since we beat Manchester City for the signing of Alexis Sánchez! The hell is this fantasy that we're some poor little club on a shoestring budget?
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I wouldn't support another team.
I'd just be totally alienated and stop caring about club football as much. I'd still follow United to an extent but I do suspect I'd find my interests going elsewhere if we became an oil club (for no fecking reason I might add).
I'd just be totally alienated and stop caring about club football as much. I'd still follow United to an extent but I do suspect I'd find my interests going elsewhere if we became an oil club (for no fecking reason I might add).
Agee 100%
Also if I remember correctly around 90% of our revenue is directly used on the team, the other 10% are divided between cash reserves, debt servicing, dividends and taxes.
All good mate. I just hope, when it happens if it ever happens, you won't talk about the United way and the sort. I'm not saying you did before cause I don't know, just pointing out it won't go together.
Oh for god's sake do feck off. I don't care if I get banned for this but you are such an insufferable cnut. If you are completely devoid of any moral fiber and want to support a club that will essentially be a PR exercise for a brutal dictatorship, do that. But don't come on here acting like others are stupid for not wanting to be part of that just to make yourself feel better about who you are willing to put up with for a few transfers.
Football is not an essential commodity that I can't live without so United, and football, can feck off when compared to things that actually matter in life.
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I think I would become one of those “fans of football” that we see being talked about. I enjoy football too much to cut it off, but I’ll be completely apathetic to the results, instead just watching for the entertainment of the game, and no particular club as the centre of my focus. It wouldn’t be the same, and I’m sure I won’t enjoy it nearly as much, but I can’t support a United run by the Saudis, but at the same time I can never support another team.
Hear hear.
Agreed. You put it into better words than I could have. This goes out to him and all the other posters in here who act like the people opposed to this are stupid or wrong.
Money money money.
Dad dad dad.
Want want want.
And like it's pointed out. We're not exactly a poor club, in the contrary, we're just not run like we should.
But I guess Saudis would solve that by just throwing money and hope it sticks.
Among other gems here I read we can't compete if we won't be taken over... Ffs
Dad dad dad.
Want want want.
And like it's pointed out. We're not exactly a poor club, in the contrary, we're just not run like we should.
But I guess Saudis would solve that by just throwing money and hope it sticks.
Among other gems here I read we can't compete if we won't be taken over... Ffs
How is it weird to not want to see your team lose? have we been clobbered so many times that it’s actually become cool to be placed 8th and playing awful football? like am I supposed to be giddy that derby comes to old Trafford and wins convincingly? That’s what would make me a “true fan”?This couldn't sound more like a glory supporter
I find this embarrassment angle wierd. Did you only support United so you could boast about their success or something?
United has been getting clapped up left and right and i’m supposed to be alright with it cause “top red”
That took a lot of writing just to say “yes”.
Btw, bicycle tires (well... any tire) are made with petroleum, too.
You’re gonna make it. No reason to throw the baby out with the bath water.
I’ll give you two guesses.
So what? Seriously, do you have a point here?
Unsurprisingly, the vast majority of fans that want this to happen are comprised of OOT’s/foreigners and the modern FM fan that want the likes of Neymar and Dybala - glory hunters that don’t really care about Manchester United, let alone the issues practiced by the regime they are so happy to drop their pants and bend over for.
There's a huge gap between giddy and embarrassment. Not sure how you made that giant leap.How is it weird to not want to see your team lose? have we been clobbered so many times that it’s actually become cool to be placed 8th and playing awful football? like am I supposed to be giddy that derby comes to Old Trafford and wins convincingly? That’s what would make me a “true fan”?
United has been getting clapped up left and right and i’m supposed to be alright with it cause “top red”
Wanting your club to stoop to this level of accepting any condition just to be successful can't be described as anything but glory supporting. The fact you want it in part because you're embarrassed adds to that.
It's okay to be one we have plenty of them on here, people didn't start supporting us because we were shit now did they. I just hope such views aren't factored in if it means selling our souls.
Yeah, the last line.
So in your opinion it's never fair game to criticise this because I happen to live in a society that's built on oil?
Not much of a point.
"You might as well accept a brutal murderous regime using your favourite team as PR because you ride a bike sometimes which is basically the same thing".
Well said, but the bolded part blew my mind.
Not directed at you, but this is how I feel:
To me, everything that is practically wrong with football as we know it comes from these oil take-overs.
The cure is not to join them, but to get them out of football / lessen their powers. It's already one big hollow shell, and the players we'd be getting before are now joining PSG and City. It's the overall greedy money-in-football picture I'm against.
I'd feckin hate our historic football club to be a play-toy for a country like this, and simply a mean to whitewash their reputation. This is obviously the goal. We're just branding a country really. A country with bad reputation. I'm not down with this way of just giving up on ethics - "everyone does it, so what" or "This is how the World works" - It's so freaking lazy and unambitious. The world is already fecked up, let's not let it spread into football more than it already is. But we'll get great stats in FIFA and we'd beat another oil-club, right??
I really don't wanna be a moralist in everyday-life, but what's gone on in football for the last 10 years where money and greed rules everything has just taken out so much joy of the game for me. In the end it'll just be a game about who got the most money. I'm against that.
At least the Glazer's commercial success is made out of business-people actually working for it. Nothing in this oil-ownership scenario is "well deserved" or "we built our way to the top on the field and also commercially through hard work". It's just like being born into a royal family. At least a royal family got history. This would just feel empty. Let's not just give up, just because there are other clubs doing it.
We are already one of the richest clubs in the world, we have one of the most decorated managers of the last 20 years, we are spending tons of money on transfers and wages already.
Lack of money and power is just not the reason why our team is underperforming.
Lack of money and power is just not the reason why our team is underperforming.
I mean, I’m a foreigner as well mate
I think this has less to do with where you’re from, and more to do with your outlook on life. If watching Messi in a United jersey matters more to you than thinking, you know this was funded by the same family who ordered an innocent man to be tortured and murdered, and then planned to execute the people that they made murder the guy, then more power to you, but I can never live my life like that.So anyone that think this is a good opportunity for the club to compete is a glory hunter, OOT, foreigner and FM generation? C'mon, I know this is not the best way nor a good way, but you are going ott.
I agree with every word you’ve written here mate, especially your last two paragraphs.
All moral questions aside, I find it strange the lack of attention given to the political context in the Middle East and its implications for the Saudis. The future of Saudi Arabia is not looking particularly stable IMO, and if Muhammad bin Salman survives his current problems, well he's clearly an unstable hot-head prone to making stupid mistakes - not the sort of guy you necessarily want competing with the cooler heads in the UAE and Qatar. I wonder how the people here who are so ready to dismiss anti-Saudi complaints as hypocrisy might feel if the country collapses in civil war or the royal family is ousted in the future - the club could certainly do without being tied to that kind of uncertainty/instability.
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