I do rather be sheikh's toy then a Glazer slave.I'm out if we end up being a sheikh's toy.
And that's alright. It's just not for me.I do rather be sheikh's toy then a Glazer slave.
Pretty much this. I don't support United because of the Glazers or whoever the owners are. As long as they do right by the club, I don't care what they do in their spare time.You’re right in everything you say. And IF we are sold to mega wealthy owners who want success for United ON the field again and not so much commercially, I welcome it.
All of us put gas in our cars and support these regimes indirectly anyway. No one says “That’s it I’m not going to drive until the oil is owned by someone else.”
That started in 2005.The beginning of the end...
For the Glazers
To maybe help put you at ease...And that's alright. It's just not for me.
The money in football is already absolutely shameful as it is. Then you have players cheating on the pitch and dodging tax left, right and centre off it. Corrupt organisations and so on. I've already been on the verge of not really giving that much of a shit about football and I honestly think the only club I really follow daily being bought by human rights abusing sheikhs is just a step too far.
We should be lucky that they are better than kronke.I do rather be sheikh's toy then a Glazer slave.
I don't own anything with a combustion engine, I occasionally borrow my parent's car if they're on holiday. I do use busses, the metro and trains when I'm in Denmark (although I prefer my bike). The bus is probably running on some kind of combustion engine, the metro and trains are electric I believe.To maybe help put you at ease...
Do you have or ride anything that uses a combustion engine?
And people are worried that we will have religious intolerance once we have Saudi ownersWonder if we’ll be changing the name of the site to Allahu Snack bar
Neymar? No thank you. Also I don't really get the obsession with varane, he is leaking goals at Madrid alongside ramos all the time.Bring Messi, Verratti, Lewandowski, Varane and Neymar or feck off with your oil money.
Being none of those. A new manager will be fine.Bring Messi, Verratti, Lewandowski, Varane and Neymar or feck off with your oil money.
Not true, they will sell before that starts happening to maximise profits.Why the hell are some of you panicking when you know their meeting had nothing to do with discussing a sale of the club. You all know we are the Glazers cash cow and as long as we make good revenue there is no chance in hell they are going to sell. Only once we start taking a big hit comercially are they probably going to start listening to offers but until then they will unfortunately be here.
I think the difference is that it isn't 100% certain that my stuff was 100% made at a sweatshop. I also don't know for a fact that people are made to work against their will in the FoxConn factories. But what I do know is that my countrymen are stripped of their passports and made to work in 40 degrees heat and we get one coffin every three day from middle east due to death by "Heart Attack" even though these men are in their 20's. That's my personal reason why I'll give up on supporting United if Saudi takeover happens but I really won't judge other people if they continue supporting us. I really think there's a difference if the atrocities committed are by the state as opposed to corporations who are always looking to exploit people even in first world countries.I'll get a lot of stick for this comment, but if this were Liverpool, I'd be jumping for joy, despite having good owners already.
It's oil money, it's tainted, it comes at the cost of lives, etc... Well, so does pretty much every luxury item you own. Your clothes are made in sweatshops, your electronics are manufactured in a place where suicide nets are put up in place of improvements to basic living standards... Why the selective conscience on this? Or is it just the idea of having to listen to City fans lambast you for what you've given them stick over for the past decade?
You're already owned by foreigners anyway, so it's not like you're losing much there in terms of sticking to the core of who you are. I'd take the better football over any sort of moral high ground, as I already gave up that high ground with the stuff I own anyway.
Like asking if you would like a shag a lesbian or a trans. The first one won't be interested and the second one, though willing, would just feel uncomfortable.I do rather be sheikh's toy then a Glazer slave.
With old Trafford serving halal food everywhere.Surprised no one is looking forward to visiting the theatre of harems
Agreed, the debt is crippling us to the point where we're getting outbid by City and PSG and can only afford to pay Lingard just above £100k a week. Shameful.If you're an adult and you have credit cards, auto loan, mortgage with the added responsibilities of having a family, school fees, vacation, gifts etc. You will understand how debt can tie your hands. It's like an invincible prison for your money. No matter how much money you make, you have this sink that's always swallowing your hard earn income and you can't shake it off. Your kids looks up to you for shining new things, your wife wants to have fun, your soul is crushed when you are compared to someone else. You cry at night because there is nothing you can do, you are tied down by the bondage of debt. This is Manchester United right now.
We have someone who can get rid of the bondage and some fans calling themselves purists and saints. You probably won't understand all I've said if you are a minor or if you are an adult that lives on the government or if you are one of the few that preys on daddy's funds.
The hypocrisy of this thread is making me sick.
Pity Bayern fans with their recent actions of their upper management have lost that though!A lot is at stake here, like your moral superiority over City supporters!
lol
To maybe help put you at ease...
Do you have or ride anything that uses a combustion engine?
This doesn't hold water when we have spent 400 m. If the managers were any wise, playing good progressive football with a winning mentality the players follow suit. 90% problems come from mismanagement while only 10% of it could be blamed on a lesser kitty or willingness to spend.If you're an adult and you have credit cards, auto loan, mortgage with the added responsibilities of having a family, school fees, vacation, gifts etc. You will understand how debt can tie your hands. It's like an invincible prison for your money. No matter how much money you make, you have this sink that's always swallowing your hard earn income and you can't shake it off. Your kids looks up to you for shining new things, your wife wants to have fun, your soul is crushed when you are compared to someone else. You cry at night because there is nothing you can do, you are tied down by the bondage of debt. This is Manchester United right now.
We have someone who can get rid of the bondage and some fans calling themselves purists and saints. You probably won't understand all I've said if you are a minor or if you are an adult that lives on the government or if you are one of the few that preys on daddy's funds.
The hypocrisy of this thread is making me sick.
Absolute load of tosh. Manchester United, to most of us anyway, is more than just a collection of players that go on the football field. It's an idea that many of us have grown up since we were kids and we associate ourselves with it. I have no issues with us not winning trophies because we apparently can't spend as much as City( btw we still outspend 95% of other clubs), it's much better than becoming owned by a horrendous regime.If you're an adult and you have credit cards, auto loan, mortgage with the added responsibilities of having a family, school fees, vacation, gifts etc. You will understand how debt can tie your hands. It's like an invincible prison for your money. No matter how much money you make, you have this sink that's always swallowing your hard earn income and you can't shake it off. Your kids looks up to you for shining new things, your wife wants to have fun, your soul is crushed when you are compared to someone else. You cry at night because there is nothing you can do, you are tied down by the bondage of debt. This is Manchester United right now.
We have someone who can get rid of the bondage and some fans calling themselves purists and saints. You probably won't understand all I've said if you are a minor or if you are an adult that lives on the government or if you are one of the few that preys on daddy's funds.
The hypocrisy of this thread is making me sick.
Yeah, the best time to sell is right about now, before the major commercial deals begin the renewal process.Not true, they will sell before that starts happening to maximise profits.
If we start losing money, then any takeover bid would be lessened due to that fact. A smart business family like the Glazers would know to sell before that happens.
Aargh the old "someone is gonna do it, so it might as well be me!" justification.Would you guys be happy if they bought Liverpool? Because let's face it, they're gonna buy someone. And if they bought Liverpool then expect them to overhaul our title count pretty soon and add afew more UCL titles to their portfolio.
Yeah they're pretty fecking awful.The only tangible difference is we'll have lots of money and owners that actually want us to win.
The Saudi regime will just have more attention drawn to it, which again isn't a bad thing (although are they really that bad in the grand scheme of regimes anyway?).
I have my fingers crossed for this.
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Yes, they're one of the worst. I worked on a campaign for Amnesty International and Saudi Arabia is one of the worst Human rights violators on a regular basis, with a law, judicial and political system that belongs in the medieval times.The only tangible difference is we'll have lots of money and owners that actually want us to win.
The Saudi regime will just have more attention drawn to it, which again isn't a bad thing (although are they really that bad in the grand scheme of regimes anyway?).
I have my fingers crossed for this.
If you were a proper adult you'd realise volatile consumer debt is nothing like cheap corporate debt. You might also have factored things like the millions of pounds worth of tax relief we've recieved as a result of this financial strategy into your calculations too.If you're an adult and you have credit cards, auto loan, mortgage with the added responsibilities of having a family, school fees, vacation, gifts etc. You will understand how debt can tie your hands. It's like an invincible prison for your money. No matter how much money you make, you have this sink that's always swallowing your hard earn income and you can't shake it off. Your kids looks up to you for shining new things, your wife wants to have fun, your soul is crushed when you are compared to someone else. You cry at night because there is nothing you can do, you are tied down by the bondage of debt. This is Manchester United right now.
We have someone who can get rid of the bondage and some fans calling themselves purists and saints. You probably won't understand all I've said if you are a minor or if you are an adult that lives on the government or if you are one of the few that preys on daddy's funds.
The hypocrisy of this thread is making me sick.
Wait, so you'd rather by the plaything of a literal violent slave driver than the figurative slave of a couple of middle-aged Jewish blokes and their creative accounting? Fantastic stuff mateI do rather be sheikh's toy then a Glazer slave.
If we keep the present manager then we will probably bring Willian, Arnautovic, vestergaard etcBring Messi, Verratti, Lewandowski, Varane and Neymar or feck off with your oil money.