The Saudis are allies with the UAE, so I doubt they have any bad blood with Mansour or aims to topple them. Unlike Qatar (PSG) who are at loggerheads with UAE and hence probably grudge the fact that City are a bit ahead of them in their very similar projects.
I’m trying to think of the right analogy, but in essence we already have enough resources and pull that throwing unlimited money behind us just seems like a “for those sake of it” type move.
What's the difference? Are the Glazers not souless corporate gnomes that turned this club into a mirror of what they are? How much would worse would the Saudis really be? This already isn't the same club it was 13 years ago.
Agree. It would force the hand of the Saudi's to get rid off bad publicity and potentially change their ways.
There was only one Fergie.
That’s true, though comparing the way the glazers do business and the country of Saudi Arabia...
Fixed.
Of course there are. Being a pawn in a financial dick waving competition between KSA and UAE being played out in Manchester for example.
Absolute pipedream. There is a reason why the House of Saud are so hamfisted with their rule in their country. Saudi Arabia is a large country united by many tribes. It is near impossible for one royal family to keep them all in check and prevent an Arab Spring or calls for democracy without the help of the oppressive religious laws by the clergy. The moment you make them soft, the threat of an Arab Spring arises.
You guys slate Lukaku as a donkey, accusing Rashford as a headless chicken. Now imagine Harry Kane up top, Martial (Or Hazard) on the left, Mbappe on the right, Griezmann (Or Dybala) in the middle, Pogba sharing the midfield with Kante (Or Veratti)? The exact kind of lineup United deserves, if we still believe we are the biggest football club in the world.
All the good feelings from Alexis's transfer went down the drain when we went back to being a poor beggar and failed to bring him a single centre defender last summer. Everyone and their dog knew we needed reinforcements there. Also we failed to get a proper backup for Pogba (Someone in the mould of Savic or Goretzka). Result? We were fecked by City because Pogba was injured. We had a "beggar" summer, and now Mourinho is trying his best to avoid a "beggar" season for us.
The Manchester Derby will become a proxy war.
Well the Crown Prince started to let women drive...moving in the right direction!
Concievably, but its not like theyre bagging players out of our league.
No, but there is no reason to beleive their spending is what they say it is. So any comparisons between our fees/wages and theirs are pointless as their figures are fake.
Yes they perform better due to football decisions but this was made possible because of money. When City can afford to replace an injury player with a 50M January player, here we're here discussing if 100M will be enough to buy 2 defenders and RW.
You're wrong about DRC but let leave it here as it'd involve a lot of things and will derail this thread. The only truth is that more than 6.000.000 people died since 1998 and continue to die because of Coltan and nobody gives a feck, you'll be shocked if you dare visit that country.
Well said
Do you actually believe all the things you just typed?
Well if you accept the point of the argument, why quibble over the details?
I don't believe i've ever called Lukaku a donkey and i certainly have never called Rashford a headless chicken. Please show me where i have?
the people buying the club in this scenario are in many ways responsible for a country with some of the worst human rights issues on the planet. If that's not enough reason to be against them buying i don't know what is
They will. And started further back than we would
I do protest my government and don't buy HP, Acer or Samsung anymore, that's mostly by coincidence though. Apple isn't and I gave up their products 10 years ago for various reasons one of them being the free enterprise zones in South Asia. I doubt I will ever visit the DRC but I have worked and travelled to Nigeria and filmed in the northern territories as well as Rwanda. It has nothing to do with the murder of the journalist either, as I said I worked for Amnesty International on a female oppression project as well as a capital punishment campaign and it has shaped a lot of how I think about the likes of Saudi Arabia, Qatar and UAE. Anyway again it's beside the point and you are right it is derailing the thread. It is very hard to do the right thing in every aspect of your life. One of the things I hold in high esteem is my Football Club. I know it's not what it once was in terms of the connection to the community it rose from, but wanting it to not fall into the hands and become a plaything of vicious regime and used as a propaganda tool is something I can oppose and have a say in personally.
I don't see any reason to stop supporting the club. We can't help it if a bunch of high class murderers take over. At any rate, we don't need their money, we just need a proper structure and freedom to spend the money we make by ourselves -- which would be substantial enough with or without Woodward's noodle sponsors for sure.
What a lot of rubbish.
I understand your point and in a perfect world I would like somebody like Gates,Bezos or similar to buy the club but I doubt that will happen. My point was IF they would buy the club and IF they would clear up the debts and let the club run itself as we would do much better if not having to reapay the loans and be a piggy bank for the Glazers as we do today. I am in no way a supporter of how Saudi government is behaving but if they want to use us in a positive way would they not go about that in the right way? Would they not be smart enough to know they would have to handle this correctly? United is money machine that needs to get rid of the Glazers and reclaim our standing in the game. Are people perhaps a little hypocritical in a way as Saudis are the biggest exporter of oil in the world but I do not see mass demonstrations or boycotts of the users of their oil.
I didn't think someone else's opinion could make me cringe as much as this. Well done.
Most of that money would be taxed. There isn't a whole lot of money that isn't used on the club.
There's a difference between being lumped with owners via a leveraged buyout, against your desires and to the detriment of the club you love, and welcoming a takeover from an owner because of the promise of riches, no matter the cost.
How can you say it's nothing to do with money? How do you know? It's most probably about money, why else would they knowingly run the club like they do? I mean what else rather than shire stupidity, because the current wage structure or transfer spending is not sustainable unless we also get our act together in the footballing part.
What can you do about it as a fan regardless? Nothing. We already have ties to the Sauds as it is anyway so maybe everyone that's so enraged by it should just stop supporting now.
These guys are hardly Hitler are they? I mean the morally correct West is their biggest ally and friend, those who should be stopping them, are helping them, so we go along with the flow.
Sorry, that's nonsense.
Taking the stance of it's fine because everything is f*cked anyway isn't really a great argument.
