Why do you create stuff in your head? The club is rotten throughout it, certain elements of the squad, the manager, all the way up, everyone knows it, yet you dance around on here trying to act like everyone thinks Jose is the only problem. No one with any sense thinks that.
The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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They were so aggressive with their pro Mourinho stance, I got attacked numerous times for criticising him in any way. What a bunch of nutjobs.
That thread has some of the most deluded, arrogant, top red bollox ever posted on here.
Of course not. How could we expect Jose to play anything resembling football with only 400mil spent? I mean it's not like he's expected to coach his players or anything.My word, please tell me you're on the windup
You do realise it's mostly the technically poorest ones that Mourinho likes because they're "characters" and "warriors". He doesn't really trust technical players in the way that most of the top managers now do, he never has done, and instead looks for people who will dig in with him in the trenches. It's part of the reason he looks so outdated, there are fewer of those types of players around now and a lot more ball players
If he wanted players who could control it and pass it quickly why the feck has he bought the likes of Lukaku and Matic and why does he love Fellaini so much? They're "men" who will be loyal to him but as people who can get the ball done and play fast, exciting football they're nowhere near good enough and nor is he as a manager who we know full well doesn't really bother coaching attacking players.
Aye really penny pinching throwing sickening amounts of money at players like Lukaku.
Conte is available.
Just a point behind Everton now.
Van Gaal was a techincal coach but the gist was they were "over coached" and that is was too structured. And now its the opposite.
Our players are not top standard players.
Man City goal difference +35 V Man Utd -1. Goals scored 40 v 20. When Ferguson found Man City winning league & outscoring us slightly, he bought Van Persie. Mourinho's answer would be spend it all on the defence & defend more.
This guy is never going to win the League or Champions League for Man Utd.
This guy is never going to win the League or Champions League for Man Utd.
One of the best things about Van Gaal was the conveyor belt of young players that would come in if he had injuries. No left winger in goal or striker running on with a magic sponge as long as they were in their late 20s. He gave people a chance.
No quick fix. Jose needs to go but our results won't improve until some players depart. We have players on very high wages and it is unlikely that they will leave. We probably need to pay them off to leave. Players like Sanchez, Matic, Pogba, Lukuka, Mata would probably earn alot to want to leave. I guess it will be at least 3-4 years of rebuilding.
Jose can stay or go, the next manager won't make much of a difference. The main problem with United is much much deeper, its all the way to the board and the CEO. The Glazers and Ed needs to feck off along with Jose if United are to be a competitive club again cause lets face it United has become a banter club riding on their past achievements and glory. The management is incompetent and more focused on money making than football. There needs to be a massive overhaul and change of ownership for United to move forward.
Only question for me is who to bring in instead of him.
Lot of players need to be sent away too but won't happen so I think a new manager is most likely going to spend loads on a player who doesn't suit us or a great name player who turns out like Di Maria/Sanchez.
Suppose O Neill and Keane is available though.
Lot of players need to be sent away too but won't happen so I think a new manager is most likely going to spend loads on a player who doesn't suit us or a great name player who turns out like Di Maria/Sanchez.
Suppose O Neill and Keane is available though.
Oof, the press conferences and the snipes at Jose would be like a WWE storyline. Let’s do it, at least it’s more entertaining than the shambles on the pitch.
He’s probably gotta go now, but he won’t. They won’t want to pay him off.
We are in a dire situation... This was supposed to be an "easy run" of fixtures for us while Spurs will have some tough games where we were all hoping for them to drop points. Top 4 is gone and come summer Martial, Pogba and De Gea will be as well. The worst part about this whole escapade is that there was a big chance this could all have been avoided had we gotten rid of this fraud of a manager earlier. Unfortunately we suffer from something called inept ownership where they value a 25m sacking fee over salvaging the season. Glazers, Woodward, Mourinho all a bunch of charlatans that are out of their depth.
The stats don't lie. This is the worst I've felt about the team in the last 5 years and it's proven right there.David Moyes Awful Season:
13 games
6 wins
4 draws
3 losses
22 points
+5 goal difference
LVG Awful Season:
13 games
8 wins
3 draws
2 losses
27 points
+10 goal difference
Jose This Season:
13 games
6 wins
3 draws
4 losses
21 points
-1 goal difference
Bad, very bad.
Not for 40 years we've had this goal difference at this stage I heard today
Jose getting those records Moyes couldn't get with Palace getting their first point at OT.
The team had shown some fight in previous matches but today it was very dispirited, the crowd was down. It felt like we waved the small chance of top 4 goodbye like we couldn't be arsed.
We're so much in the post Busby era.
What a dreadful team he's turned us into.
You’re basically arguing that a manager has no impact on the matchday performance, which is obviously tosh.
Penny pinching owners don't spend 400m come on.
Moyes got done in during January and LVG got smashed in December. We are at least facing a number of the lower clubs during that period but with some tricky fixtures sprinkled in. Complacency will be the real problem and I think we play into other clubs hands by being so timid in our own half, just allows them to have confidence to run at our goal. Also have the suspicion that we'll be facing a new Manager at Southampton next weekend which is never easy.
So is Mick McCarthy. I wouldn't touch either of them with a Fellaini.
People wonder why I have been so aggressive myself but when you're fighting such obvious idiocy and bias, you have to fight fire with fire. My tagline says it all though about how blinded we have been when it comes to seeing fans who criticise the management as 'bad supporters' and those who are utterly oblivious to any faults of the manager as 'good supporters'. It is a narrative that needs to change as soon as possible and the matchhgoing fans with the booing today are hopefully now beginning to take some responsibility and opening their eyes again.
For the love of God. Sack him now.
yeah, we were far better under LVG
Who's it going to be then?
Who's going to come in and coach these players into being a great team?
He is worse than LvG. It's sad that I can actually get away with that statement now.
I'll do it - can't do any worse than the current lot.
The problem is, we're worse against the supposed worse teams. Today was a typical performance of us at home against a team we should be expecting to beat with ease.
No moyes, lvg and mourinho are big problems.
They set the tactics and game plan. Nothing to with ed when we set up with two banks of four at home (words of the manager) and rely purely long ball. We had the players to win the game
Yet they have spent 400 million since he has been Manager, and spend 500k a week on Sanchez’s wages. That’s not penny pinching in anyone’s book.
Dont worry, the way how they behaved towards posters in better periods under JM wont be forgotten. There is special group of people.
I can categorically state I had more enjoyment (at the higher points) under LVG than ever under this cnut.
No we weren't. But somehow he's made us worse.
It's never on the players. They can be responsible for their own individual showing or a mistake or a bad miss.
But the team performances and results are the responsibility of the manager given its the team he's supposed to manage.
Any other manager who isn't Mourinho basically. The man is past it, time to put him out his misery. Too many players being terrible at the same time, too many recruits not playing at the same time is 100% on the manager, accept it.
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