The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked

Is Mourinho’s time as United manager up?

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  • Not yet - needs more time to see if he can turn it around

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Perhaps we need a poll because I believe he’s doing this shit on purpose, it’s got to be sabotage.
 

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He said something about "I've played CL 14 times, all 14 times I went through the group stage"...so 14/14, pretty great tbh.

Now what was it he said about the stats the other week?
 

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He said something about "I've played CL 14 times, all 14 times I went through the group stage"...so 14/14, pretty great tbh.

Now what was it he said about the stats the other week?
Stats are for those who don't understand football.
 

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Beating Juve away with a jammy last minute comeback is the kind of result that’s okay to revel in, regardless of context ... Beating Young Boys at home, with a scrappy hand-balled last minute punt up field, after failing to score at Old Trafford in 180 minutes of regular time against Crystal Palace and a team whose county of origin I’m still not certain of, is not an equateable scenario.

Anyone genuinely happy with that, or expecting others to be happy with it with nare regard for how it was achieved, needs some actual medical help.

If Jones had accidentally bumbled the ball in off his arse in the dying seconds of the Palace game, there’d be literally nothing to separate the abject awfulness of those two performances. But then for some reason, desperately squeaking past terrible teams is now our prime manoeuvre, and something to be grateful for.

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Neville will never, ever turn on the manager, he still thinks it was a mistake to sack Moyes ffs! He's beyond stubborn.
https://www.skysports.com/football/...t-sack-nigel-adkins-after-defeat-to-west-brom

Southampton ended up sacking Adkins, when they were in the relegation zone. They hired Mauricio Pochettino who helped them finish 14th that season and then guided them to 8th the season after.

Neville's manager stance is weird. It is almost religious and doesn't follow any specific logic.
 

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He is a narcissistic cnut, it is all about him. No idea how he has so many fanboys who adore him.
Yeppp, nothing redeeming about him, style of play, crap, transfers, crap, personality crap. We win and it’s his doing, lose or draw and it’s the players fault. His comments after Sevilla should have seen him sacked on the spot, ignoring he shouldn’t have been hired in the first place. I can’t wait till he’s gone. Massive party time, then maybe we’ll have our club back.
 

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Rashford certainly has his problems finishing, but I am utterly sick of Mourinho gesturing in exasperation when Marcus fails to score. Jose is disloyal, a terrible actor, a ham furiously signalling to the audience: 'Just look what I have to work with!' He'd throw his granny off a cliff for an honour on his precious CV.
 

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Jose still needs to go. we're fecking wank.
 

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Beating Juve away with a jammy last minute comeback is the kind of result that’s okay to revel in, regardless of context ... Beating Young Boys at home, with a scrappy hand-balled last minute punt up field, after failing to score at Old Trafford in 180 minutes of regular time against Crystal Palace and a team whose county of origin I’m still not certain of, is not an equateable scenario.

Anyone genuinely happy with that, or expecting others to be happy with it with nare regard for how it was achieved, needs some actual medical help.

If Jones had accidentally bumbled the ball in off his arse in the dying seconds of the Palace game, there’d be literally nothing to separate the abject awfulness of those two performances. But then for some reason, desperately squeaking past terrible teams is now our prime manoeuvre, and something to be grateful for.

GGMU2018!
Agreed with everything there, it's hard to enjoy the win when all the joy has been sucked out of you with the soul crushing football on the show. It's odd too, for some fans it doesn't seem to matter how we perform if we score a late and win the game and the game before that is all forgotten. It appears the board operates that way too, one crap win after a shit performance and all is forgiven.
 

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https://www.skysports.com/football/...t-sack-nigel-adkins-after-defeat-to-west-brom

Southampton ended up sacking Adkins, when they were in the relegation zone. They hired Mauricio Pochettino who helped them finish 14th that season and then guided them to 8th the season after.

Neville's manager stance is weird. It is almost religious and doesn't follow any specific logic.
Honestly Neville is not worth listening to these days. I'll listen to Rio any day over Neville, who's just too stubborn in his views.
 

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Beating Juve away with a jammy last minute comeback is the kind of result that’s okay to revel in, regardless of context ... Beating Young Boys at home, with a scrappy hand-balled last minute punt up field, after failing to score at Old Trafford in 180 minutes of regular time against Crystal Palace and a team whose county of origin I’m still not certain of, is not an equateable scenario.
Added to that, we're only in this position because Young Boys got a shock draw with Valencia. We owe the Young Boys a drink.

We couldn't even get a goal against Valencia at home.
 

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Rashford certainly has his problems finishing, but I am utterly sick of Mourinho gesturing in exasperation when Marcus fails to score. Jose is disloyal, a terrible actor, a ham furiously signalling to the audience: 'Just look what I have to work with!' He'd throw his granny off a cliff for an honour on his precious CV.
Exactly, not like players don't miss chances either. Even WC players can miss open nets, his precious Lukaku has been an expert at it this season, but never a peep about that. His favourite can literally take a dump on the pitch, and he will praise them for their amazing bowel movements, the cnut.
 

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He said something about "I've played CL 14 times, all 14 times I went through the group stage"...so 14/14, pretty great tbh.

Now what was it he said about the stats the other week?
Pretty much same as Wenger then.....Excellent another one of the checklist to tick off. :D
 

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The game against Palace and the game today were both like many games this season beyond pathetic and inexcusable. Can't wait for the season to be over so he can take his crap neanderthal football and his stinky attitude elsewhere. He won't win anything big again for the rest of his career. The funny thing is our amount of points in the league and our style of play at the moment would probably be the same if we had Allardyce or Pulis in charge. Can't wait to see the back of this depressing dosser.
 

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He's on thin ice, i like the brand 'Jose Mourinho', but after the season so far Mourinho can't complain if the club were to cut ties with him any time. The league table doesn't look pretty, maybe i can fathom 1/9 points against City, Spurs and Chelsea, but Burnley, Palace and Wolves should have been three points for United. He's made himself vulnerable to criticism, why can't he get Sanchez playing, what has happened to Pereira and Bailly, and of course i'd like to see Fred a bit more often.

Hopefully we can string a few wins together, but every game's been a big struggle, not looking foward to the Arsenal game, Mourinho has to find a way out of this, if we were to lose some of the next games, he should be out of the job.
 

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How much does he stand to make if he were to be sacked end of season? Assuming he's on 250k a week - then 12 months = 12 mill before tax. Would it be a lump sum?
 

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How much does he stand to make if he were to be sacked end of season? Assuming he's on 250k a week - then 12 months = 12 mill before tax. Would it be a lump sum?
Probably less considering there is a CL clause in the managers contract.
 

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Exactly, not like players don't miss chances either. Even WC players can miss open nets, his precious Lukaku has been an expert at it this season, but never a peep about that. His favourite can literally take a dump on the pitch, and he will praise them for their amazing bowel movements, the cnut.
The fact is that everyone keeps bleating on and on about “rashford should be “CF “ rashford should leave if not played every week at “CF”
And yet whenever he is given the role he fluffs it missing chance after chance every time , he is not and will never be a CF . Jose knows this and I think his frustration gets the better of him .
If Lukaku had played the whole game and missed the chances Rashford Missed the whole caf would be slagging him off yet most seem to turn a blind eye to Rashfords failings
 

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The game against Palace and the game today were both like many games this season beyond pathetic and inexcusable. Can't wait for the season to be over so he can take his crap neanderthal football and his stinky attitude elsewhere. He won't win anything big again for the rest of his career. The funny thing is our amount of points in the league and our style of play at the moment would probably be the same if we had Allardyce or Pulis in charge. Can't wait to see the back of this depressing dosser.
That’s the silly thing, genuinely think Eddie Howe or Silva the Everton manager would be doing better.
 

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Honestly Neville is not worth listening to these days. I'll listen to Rio any day over Neville, who's just too stubborn in his views.
I like both but Rio (and the other ex Man Utd pundits) piss me off for not standing by their convictions, always shying away from telling it like it is. Mourinho needs to go, they're all to pussy to say it
 

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I like both but Rio (and the other ex Man Utd pundits) piss me off for not standing by their convictions, always shying away from telling it like it is. Mourinho needs to go, they're all to pussy to say it
I don't think it's that simple though, you rarely, if ever, see ex players calling for managers to be sacked. Their opinions carry a lot of weight and it would make headline news. You can't imagine the board being happy with it either. I think Rio goes as far as he can, it's a difficult spot tbh
 

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I don't think it's that simple though, you rarely, if ever, see ex players calling for managers to be sacked. Their opinions carry a lot of weight and it would make headline news. You can't imagine the board being happy with it either. I think Rio goes as far as he can, it's a difficult spot tbh
Like I said I just want them to stand by their convictions, they're paid to give their opinions, they're asked the question enough times (whether Mourinho should be sacked or not), so just answer it. I know it's headline stuff but meh
 

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I like both but Rio (and the other ex Man Utd pundits) piss me off for not standing by their convictions, always shying away from telling it like it is. Mourinho needs to go, they're all to pussy to say it
Rio and Scholesy like to appear objective in front of the TV cameras, yet they struggle to mask how they really feel. They clearly want Jose out of the club.

Gary Neville has no such trouble however, he'd still banging the "give him more time" drum after we've been relegated to the Championship.
 

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The fact is that everyone keeps bleating on and on about “rashford should be “CF “ rashford should leave if not played every week at “CF”
And yet whenever he is given the role he fluffs it missing chance after chance every time , he is not and will never be a CF . Jose knows this and I think his frustration gets the better of him .
If Lukaku had played the whole game and missed the chances Rashford Missed the whole caf would be slagging him off yet most seem to turn a blind eye to Rashfords failings
The fact is that Rashford gets a game or 2 at max ony whilst Lukaku can have 20 games without a goal. If rashford had that backing then he can come in to form. However the biggest problem is how we play. Lukaku is made to fit in to Jose's tactics of hoof ball that is made to get all the team to supply Lukaku - the central guy to the team. On the other hand Rashford has to run behind the lines,beat his defenders, anticipate through balls, stay on side, usually dribble a good few yards before taking a shot, drifting much more wider than a striker like Lukaku and so much more.

Forget your rating of Rashford as a player - but do you think Jose as a manager has done all he can to get the best out of a Forward like Rashford in comparison to a forward like Lukaku? Is playing the exact team set up the way to get the best out of lukaku - a target man going to get the best out of Rashford? Rashford is a different type of forward to Lukaku and is a different one to every single striker that Jose has ever used; the closest possibly being daniel sturridge as a sub for him at Chelsea. Tactically; jose does not have the capability to get the best out of Rashford the striker & he definitely didnt change his players nor tactics that much in anticipation to accomadate Rashford to the starting 11 today, nor does he any other time.

Rashford needs a number 10 behind him or a false 9 to initiate the chances. This is something Lukaku does not need due to everyone crossing the ball for him from every angle. Is this not true? This is why a player like Lingard did so well as a player reacting off the passes and touches of Lukaku in season 2.

Story is that Rashford's type of football cant simply be measured by watching a random game he gets up front once every two months playing for a team that is built to get the best out of a target man.

Jose Tactically is abrupt and defined to his tactics and that will struggle to benefit anyone who does not fit his tactical criteria. This amplifies the frustratin Jose showed today because as he has said - he is being forced to play Rashford due to the fans when he does not want to.
 

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Gary Neville has no such trouble however, he'd still banging the "give him more time" drum after we've been relegated to the Championship.
...which just happens to be the most controversial stance he could take. I bet Sky love him.
 

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I want him out as much as the next guy but I got no problems with his bottle celebration or that reaction after the Rashford miss. He's probably frustrated with the team like the rest of us....same way Lukaku is probably frustrated with his shit first touch or Valencia with his crossing abilities.
 

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Rashford certainly has his problems finishing, but I am utterly sick of Mourinho gesturing in exasperation when Marcus fails to score. Jose is disloyal, a terrible actor, a ham furiously signalling to the audience: 'Just look what I have to work with!' He'd throw his granny off a cliff for an honour on his precious CV.
Aye, it's frustrating to see that.

I can't recall Jose offering that same disdainful look after Lukaku failed to find the net for the umpteenth time - including the 2 from tonight.
 

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Agreed with everything there, it's hard to enjoy the win when all the joy has been sucked out of you with the soul crushing football on the show. It's odd too, for some fans it doesn't seem to matter how we perform if we score a late and win the game and the game before that is all forgotten. It appears the board operates that way too, one crap win after a shit performance and all is forgiven.
Spawny last minute wins are great! No ones denying that. But they're only ever the hallmark of a good side in conjunction with a general high standard of football. Otherwise they're just 'Cystanbul', but from the Palace side. Or that time Everton derailed our title chances... only we're Everton! (which is actually fair tbh, as Fellaini is now also our defacto danger-man)

Fergie Time was only ever a thing because we were a great side, sweeping all before us.. but who occasionally managed to force a result on the rare days we didn't play well. City scored a load of last minute goals last year, too, which were similarly hailed as "the sign of Champions"... but not because they'd managed to eek passed Bournmouth in the 91st minute. But because they were otherwise casually beating everyone else 5-fecking-0!

When every other win is a dramatic last gasp rescue, that doesn't mean you're on the up. It just means you're invariably a shit team for the better part of 89 minutes.
 

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I don't think it's that simple though, you rarely, if ever, see ex players calling for managers to be sacked. Their opinions carry a lot of weight and it would make headline news. You can't imagine the board being happy with it either. I think Rio goes as far as he can, it's a difficult spot tbh
Agreed.its not something you should say lightly. The board will make the right decision in the end, though
It almost certainly won't be until the end of the season, and unlikely before the end of his contract. I just can't see it... Honestly I still back with money this summer and see what he can do over the next 2-3 years which I know is a popular view on here.
 

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Rashford certainly has his problems finishing, but I am utterly sick of Mourinho gesturing in exasperation when Marcus fails to score. Jose is disloyal, a terrible actor, a ham furiously signalling to the audience: 'Just look what I have to work with!' He'd throw his granny off a cliff for an honour on his precious CV.
Gotta be someone's fault.

I've been fairly critical of Rashford tbf (and I'm still not sure whether he's quite as good as we think he is) but I'm not remotely annoyed with him tonight. He was wasteful, sure, but he was also dynamic and dangerous in a way that no one else was. And I'm also glad that his performances for England in an almost identical wide role have finally ended the argument that he's only underperforming for us because he's in the wrong position. He's not good enough to be a No9 yet, but he's been great for Southgate in both a wide right and a wide left role. So it's not the role....and it's not him.... So it must be...? Urgh!! if only there was an uncommon denominator!?
 
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