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The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked

Is Mourinho’s time as United manager up?

  • Yes

    Votes: 2,296 77.1%
  • No

    Votes: 293 9.8%
  • Not yet - needs more time to see if he can turn it around

    Votes: 388 13.0%

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devilish

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Decent like West Ham and Everton yeah, far from top 4 level.
I disagree. Sanchez, Pogba, Mata, Fred, Martial and Rashford my not be enough for us to win the EPL but we're far better then this shit
 

AC1689

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Can someone please tell me why we always wait until it’s mathematically impossible to attain top four to sack a clearly failing manager?

At this point we’ve lost UCL football and this amounts to huge unnecessary losses in revenue, as well as making any rebuilding job a lot harder. Harder to retain current players and attract much needed new players.

It’s counter-productivity at its absolute finest. We are run by morons. Of course there will be a clause that stipulates that failing to get top four means the managers tenure will come to an end. But that is simply to avoid a bigger payout. We lose far more, and not just money, if we don’t arrest the decline now.

Sack him now before the rot sets in completely.
 

fallengt

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Derby Country was the turning point for me and he's hardly done anything to change my mind.
We were outplayed by them and an unexperienced manager, Frank fecking Lampard at OT. Whoever telling themselves it was not manager's fault need to check their head.

Liverpool or not, any team with good intention to play football will make it hard for us. Jose's just doing same thing over over and expect different result. The man is clearly out of his depth.
 

Canagel

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Decent like West Ham and Everton yeah, far from top 4 level.
We finished well clear of those teams with those same players. Too bad Mourinho insists on using limited players instead of focusing on how he can improve our talented ones.
 

sunama

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I think this is it, he wont survive this
He'll survive...at least until he can mathematically get top 4. It's all about money and right now, it'll cost extra to sack Jose.
The club don't care too much about on-pitch results, but when it effects their income/expenditure, it matters.
 

JoseKnowsBest

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The board should sack him on the basis that he seems to think Liverpool have a far superior squad.

They just have a manager that motivates his players.

I honestly think he wants to be sacked before Christmas
 

Jazz

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Our board fecked up. The problem is that they wont suck it up and correct the mistake. Big ego and pride.
Well it's going to cost them far more if they don't put the disgusting pride aside. I won't hold my breath though. I work in the corporate world and have never met one director who ever owns up to their mistakes. Instead, they just keep compounding it.
The difference is that the public doesn't see this. Ed really needs to grow a pair.
 

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Has to go, and has to go tonight. The tactics, the coaching, the man management, the sheer sh*thousery behaviour. He is a disgrace to our football club. Needs to take half the playing squad with him
 

wolvored

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To finish 4th would mean Chelsea would have to lose 4 games, or Spurs 5 while we won the lot. Arsenal are still in front of us as well and have a much better chance. There are other permatations of course, but its not going to happen. He talks as he plays the game...shit!
 

VeevaVee

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You must be joking right?
He's won more trophies in 2 years and half than every other in Madrid's history bar ONE.
And when you put it in context he accomplished what nobody else has ever accomplished winning 3 UCLs in a row.
He's unproven at anyone other than a Ronaldo Madrid. He looks a decent manager, but he's not exactly proven, no.
 

Cheesy

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To finish 4th would mean Chelsea would have to lose 4 games, or Spurs 5 while we won the lot. Arsenal are still in front of us as well and have a much better chance. There are other permatations of course, but its not going to happen. He talks as he plays the game...shit!
Unless two of the three teams above us collapse we'll have to consistently hit title winning form from now till the end of the season to get top four. Not happening.
 

RedNed77

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Conte self destructed after one season when he wasn't given the investment he wanted. A tennis ball on a stick looks a better option than Jose at the moment, but let's not go crazy.

No quality manager is going to jump ship in the middle of the season because all of them are in the middle of successful seasons. Our best bet is to get a caretaker like Carrick and assess things towards the end of the season. Things can change very quickly in football and there might be some good options available in the few months.
Will the tennis ball on a stick do a trial period until the end of the season, and what transfer budget is he demanding?
 

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He has to go, the players aren't playing for him anymore, shame as I think if he was backed in the summer it could of been a good season, get someone new in to get a head start for next season
 

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He's not going to turn this round and why give him more millions to waste.
It's beyond a joke now. Why are they delaying the enivitable?
Just sack him now. The season is a write off before Xmas!
This is Manchester United and the rot has to stop now.
 

Sandikan

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Thing is, that "dreadful summer transfer window" felt dreadful mostly because 1) we were playing appalling football for most of the previous season and because 2) Mourinho couldn't shut the feck up about it.

If we ignore those two factors, what happened was that the team that finished second bought a promising RB and a 50m central midfielder without losing any important players at all. Which is really no reason for the absolute implosion we are seeing.
I think most of us realised we were miles off City, and had managed to get 2nd due to reasons like De Gea's incredible form, Liverpool focusing on Europe, and Tottenham being off their previous year.

We knew we needed to go big to compete, but instead bought a promising defender, who we all knew would only get a few run outs, and a midfielder that hardly anyone knew about, but for a huge fee.
 

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We finished well clear of those teams with those same players. Too bad Mourinho insists on using limited players instead of focusing on how he can improve our talented ones.
So did Leicester also when they won the league, why are they still not top team? One lucky season doesn't say much about our shit "talent" players... Most overrated squad in the world.
 

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As much as Mourinho is doing a bad job right now, people are kidding themselves if they think the light at the end of the tunnel is the board sacking the manager and everything else staying the same. I would also warn against listening to your average fan, who quite frankly is unqualified to manage anything, let alone a football club.

Last manager to start a season so badly for United was Ferguson at a time the overwhelming consensus would have been to show him the door and write him off as a man who had already peaked elsewhere.

Mourinho probably won’t turn it around, but sacking him won’t provide the club with the modern evolution it so desperately requires.
 

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Jardim is still available atm? Get him in now, so he can take a look at the squad and decide who stays/goes.
 

MrSingh2002

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Roy Keane - Manager until the end of the season
Gary Neville - Assistant Manager
Paul Scholes - Coach
Rio Ferdinand - Assistant Coach
Beckham - Assistant Coach

Temporary Director of football - Sir Alex Ferguson

None of those mentioned would turn down the opportunity. United men through and through. If it works keep them. If it doesn't hire permanent choices at the end of the season.

My bet is we get top 4 and win a cup if that happens.
 

fellaini's barber

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He'll survive...at least until he can mathematically get top 4. It's all about money and right now, it'll cost extra to sack Jose.
The club don't care too much about on-pitch results, but when it effects their income/expenditure, it matters.
If Jose is not sacked this week i might have have to ask a mod to give me a temp ban before I act a fool in this bitch
 

Sandikan

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"we'' be in the top 4 by Christmas
Top 4 will be very hard
We'll definitely come top 6

….Top 6 will be hard.
 

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As much as Mourinho is doing a bad job right now, people are kidding themselves if they think the light at the end of the tunnel is the board sacking the manager and everything else staying the same. I would also warn against listening to your average fan, who quite frankly is unqualified to manage anything, let alone a football club.

Last manager to start a season so badly for United was Ferguson at a time the overwhelming consensus would have been to show him the door and write him off as a man who had already peaked elsewhere.

Mourinho probably won’t turn it around, but sacking him won’t provide the club with the modern evolution it so desperately requires.
What planet are you on?

Of course we need to take more action than sacking Mourinho. Jesus Christ.

But he's running the show. He's the bloody manager! He's 80% of it.
 

Sandikan

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Roy Keane - Manager until the end of the season
Gary Neville - Assistant Manager
Paul Scholes - Coach
Beckham - Assistant Coach

Temporary Director of football - Sir Alex Ferguson

None of those mentioned would turn down the opportunity. United men through and through. If it works keep them. If it doesn't hire permanent choices at the end of the season.

My bet is we get top 4 and win a cup if that happens.
Get Phil Neville in as bus driver too while we're at it?
Ignore the dreadful managerial records people have had just because they're ex United?
 

ha_rooney

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Carragher talking sense, signing a CB wouldn't have mattered as much as everyone is making out.

He has to go.
 

Cheesy

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As much as Mourinho is doing a bad job right now, people are kidding themselves if they think the light at the end of the tunnel is the board sacking the manager and everything else staying the same. I would also warn against listening to your average fan, who quite frankly is unqualified to manage anything, let alone a football club.

Last manager to start a season so badly for United was Ferguson at a time the overwhelming consensus would have been to show him the door and write him off as a man who had already peaked elsewhere.

Mourinho probably won’t turn it around, but sacking him won’t provide the club with the modern evolution it so desperately requires.

This gets said a lot but it's not an argument to retain Mourinho - Fergie's recovery was a rarity, most managers who perform poorly are just a bit rubbish, and tend not to mount a recovery wherein they end up becoming one of the best managers of all-time afterwards.
 

Sandikan

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To be honest, their squads are vastly superior and can least make simple five yard passes. We have mid table players that Zidane even can't fix. This need a huge overhaul and purge in next summer.
That's ridiculous pal. Arsenal do not in any way have a vastly superior squad! And they certainly didn't when their manager came in.

I think we forget how good the likes of Pogba and Martial are because of how Jose has worked with them.
 

fellaini's barber

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He is talking about getting more points during the second half of the season. He knows he is not going to get sacked.

His contract extension looks stupider by the second.
Doesn't matter what he says to be honest, I think the fact that all our legends where there and the Liverpool fan mockery will push Woody over the edge
 
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