FA Premier League

Cardiff City 1:5 Manchester United

Cardiff City Stadium

Kick-off
Sat, 22 December 2018 @ 5:30pm GMT
Status

Closed

Discussion Live Updates 75 Your Lineup Prediction

  • Status
    Not open for further replies.

    Ubik

    Nothing happens until something moves!
    Joined
    Jul 8, 2010
    Messages
    19,083
    I have submitted my usual 5-0 to us prediction, but this time...this time!
     

    bosnian_red

    Worst scout to ever exist
    Joined
    Aug 13, 2011
    Messages
    58,312
    Location
    Canada
    I want OGS to make a stand and be bold straight away.

    De Gea
    Dalot Bailly Lindelöf Shaw
    Pereira
    Fred Pogba
    Chong Rashford Martial​
    Chong is nowhere near ready, and I'd prefer Herrera as the holding mid but agree with the other 9 really. Think we'll see Valencia for his experience, no idea who is fit for center backs, and my guess is Rashford on the right and Lukaku through the middle. Reckon Mata will be way more involved from now on as well, though depends if that's on the right or as part of the midfield 3.
     

    CM

    Full Member
    Joined
    Jul 24, 2014
    Messages
    7,446
    I don't think I'm able to change the manager text @Niall

    My second place position in the lineup predictions was good while it lasted.
    Aye, first time I've had a decent season in one of these :lol:
     

    Born2Lose

    Full Member
    Joined
    Feb 8, 2015
    Messages
    2,591
    Gone for a 3-2 win for us, I'm unsure Ole will be able to achieve many miracles with the defence but I'm hoping for plenty of goals from the attack!
     

    Havak

    Pokemon master
    Joined
    Dec 26, 2006
    Messages
    7,645
    Location
    Salford, Manchester
    Anyone know what system and tactics he tends to deploy in Norway?

    It could go one way or the other for his first game, but with such a short time to work he may opt for something similar to what we have been doing under Jose (hopefully not the being shite part, though). Obviously, I want to see him just go all-out attack. Just have a feeling he's likely to trust the Young's and Matic's of the squad for a first game, especially an away one.
     

    Hernandez - BFA

    The Way to Fly
    Joined
    Jan 5, 2011
    Messages
    17,344
    Anyone know what system and tactics he tends to deploy in Norway?

    It could go one way or the other for his first game, but with such a short time to work he may opt for something similar to what we have been doing under Jose (hopefully not the being shite part, though). Obviously, I want to see him just go all-out attack. Just have a feeling he's likely to trust the Young's and Matic's of the squad for a first game, especially an away one.
    If you head the Solksjaer thread, it's in one of the thread marks.
     

    Damien

    Self-Aware RedCafe Database (and Admin)
    Staff
    Joined
    Mar 4, 2010
    Messages
    97,432
    Location
    Also won Best Gif/Photoshop 2021
    Anyone know what system and tactics he tends to deploy in Norway?

    It could go one way or the other for his first game, but with such a short time to work he may opt for something similar to what we have been doing under Jose (hopefully not the being shite part, though). Obviously, I want to see him just go all-out attack. Just have a feeling he's likely to trust the Young's and Matic's of the squad for a first game, especially an away one.
    Here:

    At Molde, Solskjær prefers an attacking 433.

    Big striker up front, two inside forwards.

    An attacking playmaker-type midfielder behind the striker, one "box-to-box" midfielder and one deeper-lying one who often drops between the central defenders, linking the midfield and defense.

    Attacking full-backs/wing backs and two defenders who are ideally playing to each other's strengths.

    The inside forwards cut inside, often linking with the striker or the wing backs. Trying to win back possession when in defense and counter-attack quickly. When playing against a "parked bus", the wing backs overlap a lot. At their best, Molde managed to press aggressively and win back possession quickly, and attempts to play a continental, high-possession game.

    At their worst (during this 433 spell), the defense fell apart, perhaps due to a lack of quality in that part of the team; but the defending became better when they figured each other out as a team, in a tactic that extracted the best out of each player. The problem in 2015-17 was that he tried to re-invent the wheel and introduce the popular 343 to Norway, and it failed badly. His job was on the line as late as this summer, as he fumbled and experimented again and again without seemingly realising that his ideas didn't work. This all worked out in his favour when he got former United-youngster and personal favourite Magnus Wolff Eikrem back from Seattle and returned to the 433 he won three titles with. Almost unbeaten since then.

    So, the way I see it, Solskjær does one of two things the coming weeks:

    A) Implement the system he knows and is familiar with; a 433 with Lukaku as a central striker and maybe Pogba as an attacking midfielder (or Sanchez?). Patient possession football when attacking, quick direct counter-attacking football when defending (and attempting this modern aggressive pressing system as well). Great success as he wins the CL, but fails in the big matches so ends like 5th or 6th in the league. Goes back home to Molde (I hope).

    B) Tries literally anything else tactically, in the span of these 6 months and within each match. Fails miserably. Returns to Molde in time for the new season in March.
     

    Random Task

    WW Lynchpin
    Joined
    Feb 7, 2010
    Messages
    34,503
    Location
    Chester
    I read somewhere that he's also happy to deploy a 442 setup if the situation dictates, although there is no mention of it in that article.

    Yet I still have hopes of Ole ending his first pre-match presser with this very line:

    "Ladies and gentlemen of the press, United will be playing four four fecking two!"

    It just feels right.
     

    ash_86

    Full Member
    Joined
    Sep 4, 2013
    Messages
    6,339
    We're overloaded in striker and CB Dept. We must use that to our advantage. Also Darmian played well against liverpool.

    3-4-1-2

    ---------------------------DDG-------------------------
    ---------Darmian------Balilly------------Smalling-----
    Dalot--------Herrera-----------Pogba---------Shaw-
    ----------------------Sanchez/Lingard--------------------
    -------------Rashford---------Martial----------
     

    Escobar

    Shameless Musketeer
    Joined
    Jun 8, 2004
    Messages
    30,310
    Location
    La-La-Land
    I hope for a positive, bold line up! First time I look forward to a match this season!
     

    RuudTom83

    Full Member
    Joined
    Sep 30, 2013
    Messages
    5,685
    Location
    Manc
    I haven’t followed the games for the last few months so I have no clue who is or isn’t fit, but I’d try to pick a system and the same eleven now for 5-6 games until Ole finds out more about the squad.

    - God -

    Dalot - Smalling - Lindelof - Shaw

    Fred - Matic - Pogba

    Mata - Rashford - Martial
     

    WensleyMU

    New Member
    Joined
    Aug 1, 2018
    Messages
    1,664
    I would love to see Martial and Rashford play upfront. Against opposition like Cardiff I would give Fred a game also, but I still think we are to fragile defensively for him to be a regular fixture.

    I would certainly rest Matic. He needs it, but in doing so we don't really have a direct replacement, but Herrera for me would be the preferred option, at least given the opposition.

    Dave

    Dalot
    Lindelof
    Bailly
    Young (not sure Shaw is fit)

    Herrera
    Fred
    Lingard

    Mata

    Rashford
    Martial

    4312, you could probably swap Mata and Lingard.

    United to win in a high scoring game.

    Certainly wouldnt line up like this every week though.
     

    Walters_19_MuFc

    Full Member
    Joined
    Sep 3, 2013
    Messages
    29,788
    Location
    Birmingham
    Ole likes himself a 4213 so I'm going for:

    De Gea
    Dalot Smalling Lindelof Shaw
    Herrera Pogba
    Mata
    Lingard Martial Rashford
     

    Seven Seas Sardines

    Full Member
    Joined
    May 24, 2015
    Messages
    3,090
    Location
    Bolivia til 2024
    Madness. We still need to try and win the games
    Playing our most able players is how we do that.

    Astounded there are still Mourinho lovers in here who prefer deadwood dross like Matic, Fellaini, Darmian, Jones, Young, Valencia, Lingard, Lukaku, Smalling and McTominay. :lol:
     
    Last edited:

    Zlatan 7

    We've got bush!
    Joined
    May 26, 2016
    Messages
    11,971
    I’d like to see

    DeGea

    Dalot - Smalling - Lindelof - Shaw

    Fred - Herrera

    Pogba

    Lingard - Rashford - Martial
     

    red woppit

    Full Member
    Joined
    Sep 21, 2017
    Messages
    2,305
    Location
    Buchebi
    Supports
    Northampton Town
    De Gea,
    Dalot, Bailly, Lindelöf, Young (Shaw if fit).
    Pereira.
    Herrera, Fred.
    Pogba.
    Rashford, Martial.

    Romero.
    Jones.
    Rojo.
    Lingard.
    Lukaku.
    Chong.
    Gomes.


    This team would be set up to attack quickly, with Pereira as the playmaker, Herrera and Fred as the box to box players, and Pogba in a free role, but hopefully supporting the two front players. We have been set up to defend most of the season, and that hasn't worked at all, so I can't believe that the three midfield players would be any worse than what we have seen so far, the only problem would be the lack of playing time for Fred and Pereira, but hopefully Pogba will become the player we all hoped he would be, and run the game. No Matic or Fellaini in the squad for me.
     

    Foxbatt

    New Member
    Joined
    Oct 21, 2013
    Messages
    14,297
    All his untried philosophies will be tempered by Mike Phelan. That is why he is brought in. He will sort out the defence too.
    All I know is that he likes to play with pace and hence the passing has to be quicker and the movement off the ball a lot more quicker. I think he will give Lukaku a chance but if he is being static then it will be the end of Lukaku.
     

    SteveW

    Full Member
    Joined
    Mar 6, 2013
    Messages
    7,194
    Playing our most able players is how we do that.

    Astounded there are still Mourinho lovers in here who prefer deadwood dross like Matic, Fellaini, Darmian, Jones, Young, Valencia, Lingard, Lukaku, Smalling and McTominay. :lol:
    What are you on about?
     

    17 Van der Gouw

    biffa bin
    Joined
    Oct 19, 2010
    Messages
    6,516
    4-2-2-2 :D Matic carrying water, Herrera making shit happen.

    ----------------DDG-------------
    Dalot----Jones----Bailly--------Shaw
    ---------Matic----Herrera-----------
    Lingard-------------------------Martial
    ---------Lukaku----Rashford-------
     

    17 Van der Gouw

    biffa bin
    Joined
    Oct 19, 2010
    Messages
    6,516
    other than De Gea do we even know our best team?

    That is how poorly Mourinho has managed. Chop change based on him having a run in with players.
    I don't think anybody knows, and unless Ole has been watching us a lot this season, goodness only knows how he's going to pick 11 men on Saturday!
     

    Red Dreams

    Full Member
    Joined
    Aug 16, 2003
    Messages
    55,384
    Location
    Across the Universe....from Old Trafford.
    I don't think anybody knows, and unless Ole has been watching us a lot this season, goodness only knows how he's going to pick 11 men on Saturday!
    Initially at least Carrick,McKenna and Butt will be useful in their thoughts.

    But Ole will figure out pretty soon his best team.

    Part of his ability as a fine footballer was his ability to observe other players..
     

    criticalanalysis

    Full Member
    Joined
    Apr 12, 2015
    Messages
    6,438
    The first time I have ever posted a squad prediction line up on this forum so I'll be conservative:

    De Gea
    Peirera Matic Fred Shaw
    Herrera
    Pogba Martial
    Rashford Lukaku Sanchez
     

    Grylte

    "nothing wrong with some friendly incest, bro"
    Joined
    Jul 22, 2014
    Messages
    14,164
    Will be impossible to guess the lineup :(
     

    meamth

    New Member
    Joined
    Jun 3, 2017
    Messages
    5,946
    Location
    Malaysia
    I'm so excited that I'm expecting to see Martial and lukaku up front. Lukaku RF, Martial LF. Supported by Rashford on the right and Alexis on the left.

    Boom!
     

    Sterling Archer

    New Member
    Joined
    Jun 30, 2016
    Messages
    4,289
    The positivity around here has been so high, I'm afraid what happens (here) if we come away with anything but a win
     
    Status
    Not open for further replies.
Post-match discussion

Man of the Match

Paul Pogba image Paul Pogba 31% of 705 votes

Runners-up

Player Ratings

7.5 Total Average Rating

Highest Rated Player

Lowest Rated Player

Compiled from 554 ratings.

Score Predictions

657,37,54
  • Man Utd win
  • Cardiff win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 20% Cardiff 0:2 Man Utd
  • 19% Cardiff 0:3 Man Utd
  • 14% Cardiff 1:3 Man Utd
  • 10% Cardiff 0:5 Man Utd
  • 9% Cardiff 1:2 Man Utd
  • 7% Cardiff 0:4 Man Utd
  • 3% Cardiff 0:1 Man Utd
  • 3% Cardiff 1:4 Man Utd
  • 3% Cardiff 0:0 Man Utd
  • 3% Cardiff 1:1 Man Utd
  • 2% Cardiff 2:2 Man Utd
  • 1% Cardiff 2:1 Man Utd
  • 1% Cardiff 5:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Cardiff 1:5 Man Utd
  • 1% Cardiff 2:4 Man Utd
  • 1% Cardiff 2:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Cardiff 2:3 Man Utd
  • 1% Cardiff 1:0 Man Utd
  • 0% Cardiff 3:0 Man Utd
  • 0% Cardiff 3:1 Man Utd
  • 0% Cardiff 4:5 Man Utd
  • 0% Cardiff 2:5 Man Utd
  • 0% Cardiff 4:0 Man Utd
  • 0% Cardiff 5:2 Man Utd
Compiled from 748 predictions.
Show more results Score Predictions League Table

Match Stats

  1. Cardiff
  2. Man Utd
Possession
26% 74%
Shots
9 17
Shots on Target
3 9
Corners
4 7
Fouls
13 13

Referee

Michael Oliver