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International management seems most likely for him, but I doubt that without the option of a transfer market, even that will work out for him
The bar for not failing in madrid is win the CL though. He was great for us and was hugely influential on our second golden age. Similar to Mancini at CityHe failed at Madrid. It's ridiculous to suggest otherwise and I can't believe how many times I read this horrible take here
Bloody hell. He was actually pissed off that we beat Spurs. Called the Pogba-Rashford goal hoof ball!Had a look at this guys TL. Mourinho FC still going strong. I almost feel sorry for him.
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I tried to read some of his tweets to get a laugh at the delusion, but that “hope this helps” that he signs off every tweet with is so infuriating, I could barely make it past the first few.Had a look at this guys TL. Mourinho FC still going strong. I almost feel sorry for him.
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I don't even think he's watching our matches.I genuinely wonder what Mourinho's thinking at the moment.
Should have said in the European game. When he first arrivedTop 5? At one time even SAF couldn't get the better of him. He was top 2 or 3 for years.
I see what you mean so let me clarify. By his own standards at Real, he failed. He could have had the United job for life. He made a complete pig's ear of it. Success isn't only measured in silverware.If being the only man to stop the greatest side ever from winning the league and winning the Europa League and league cup is failure than I don’t know what is success.
He probably will, and some will actually credit him for it. However, if anything, the past few weeks have demonstrated that buying players, and throwing them on the pitch together arbitrarily, is not building a team. The only thing he can be credited with is that he didn't stick around long enough to drive off the high-profile players he brought in and then didn't know what to do with.If he does, i'm sure he takes cred in building the team.
Think you are right on that though mate.He probably will, and some will actually credit him for it.
He may not watch the games, but he is aware of the scorelines and the winning record which Ole is building, using the same squad which Jose had available.I don't even think he's watching our matches.
If he does, i'm sure he takes cred in building the team.
That’s a fair point actually. He doesn’t care about style, so he won’t be bothered about us playing better football, but he wasn’t getting results either, whereas 6? Wins in a row for Ole must bother him to some extent.He may not watch the games, but he is aware of the scorelines and the winning record which Ole is building, using the same squad which Jose had available.
Jose is all about the result and the results which Ole is achieving, must be hurting Jose.
His tweets are hilariousI tried to read some of his tweets to get a laugh at the delusion, but that “hope this helps” that he signs off every tweet with is so infuriating, I could barely make it past the first few.
His posts eerily mirror a certain poster on here, from talking about us not being very good right now, being a staunch Mourinho supporter right to the end, right up to comparing ole and Craig Shakespeare. I shall not call any names.
I think the only deliberate 'sabotage' was when he was using the likes of Herrera and McTominay in the defence at the beginning of the season, which was most likely done to send a message to the board that they should have bought him a centre back.Seeing how the players have responded to the change, and seemingly more attacking influence inserted into their play, is it Mourinho legit sabotaged the side to stick the finger up at the board?
It's utterly bizarre to do such. But almost seems he did so just because he didn't get to spend an extra 100M.
Long time follower of MikeLUHG. Love the guy, it's like AFTV for me after we win a game nowadays.Had a look at this guys TL. Mourinho FC still going strong. I almost feel sorry for him.
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The LUHG bit fits too. I know the poster you’re talking about. Didn’t he post an anti-Glazer ranting thread or two? Haven’t seen a single post from him since Mou got the elbow.I tried to read some of his tweets to get a laugh at the delusion, but that “hope this helps” that he signs off every tweet with is so infuriating, I could barely make it past the first few.
His posts eerily mirror a certain poster on here, from talking about us not being very good right now, being a staunch Mourinho supporter right to the end, right up to comparing ole and Craig Shakespeare. I shall not call any names.
I think we’re probably thinking of different people then I was thinking of endless wheelies, who has been posting this exact same crap as recently as yesterday. Talking about Ole being the same as Craig Shakespeare, we were crap against Spurs etc.The LUHG bit fits too. I know the poster you’re talking about. Didn’t he post an anti-Glazer ranting thread or two? Haven’t seen a single post from him since Mou got the elbow.
Beyond belief that a fan of the club couldn’t be getting on board the Ole show and still hold a torch for that miserable bollix instead.
"If you throw enough shit against a wall, some of it has gotta stick."Long time follower of MikeLUHG. Love the guy, it's like AFTV for me after we win a game nowadays.
To be fair to him, he had a couple of good points a few years ago. Was among the first to call out Schneiderlin a shit signing, and also emphasized that we shouldn't be too obsessed about youth and value all players who play for the shirt. But he has an incurable fanboy obsession over both Mourinho and Ronaldo that he defends them over and above any club including ours.
How was he influential? Seriously I get mad at this..The bar for not failing in madrid is win the CL though. He was great for us and was hugely influential on our second golden age. Similar to Mancini at City
He's definitely heard about it, but i'm sure he'll find ways to make it look like it's all because of him, and not accepting that he really did a shit job.He may not watch the games, but he is aware of the scorelines and the winning record which Ole is building, using the same squad which Jose had available.
Jose is all about the result and the results which Ole is achieving, must be hurting Jose.
When was Hoeness critical of Guardiola?Wouldn't say they have "too much sense" since their executives, especially Hoeneß and Salihamidzic come across as incompetent currently.
But Hoeneß denied Tuchel because of his polarizing character. He was also highly critical of Ancelotti, van Gaal and even Guardiola. No love for star managers or conceptual coachea. No way he will employ Mourinho, he is looking for a yes sayer grateful for the opportunity, just like Kovac. Stupid attitude but in this particular case it might be the best choice.
Soon as you said I thought of him. Less said the better.I think we’re probably thinking of different people then I was thinking of endless wheelies, who has been posting this exact same crap as recently as yesterday. Talking about Ole being the same as Craig Shakespeare, we were crap against Spurs etc.
I agree, I fail to see how any United fan could not be enjoying this right now. Sure there is a lot of uncertainty over what the future holds, but at the moment, things are more fun than they’ve been since Sir Alex left.
also noteworthy in that article that the BBC understand him to have a non-disclosure agreement as part of his severance pay so all that bullshit about being honourable etc. after he leaves a club is exposed somewhat.https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46880099
Appearing as a pundit for 2 matches for Bein Sports. An AFC game and Arsenal v Chelsea.
Does that mean he will be with Richard Keys, who had nothing but good words for him?..
0 league titles and CL titles in 3 years.Had a look at this guys TL. Mourinho FC still going strong. I almost feel sorry for him.
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Mourinho was influential because he was the one to break us out of our CL rut, made us competitive again against that barcelona, and steered us back near the top of the football pyramid. That's not to say that he did it all on his own -obviously Florentino's signings and the clubs money were even more influential- but he was the manager at the time. Ancelotti took over a team that was ready to win the CL, and with a massive chip on their shoulder. Would things have played the same or even better if we'd hired someone else instead of Mou? Possibly. But he's the one we hired, and he's the one who was sitting on the bench when we beat the best club side ever in the final of the Copa del Rey, and when we beat that team in their own stadium a year later to virtually clinch what ended up being a record breaking league title and end their hegemony. He deserves credit for that, and there's no doubt his tenure had a massive positive impact on the team and the club as a whole, which helped Ancelotti and Zidane go on to lead us into the golden age.How was he influential? Seriously I get mad at this..
Ancelotti basically did a 360 in the type of football they were running.
Seriously, Mourinho played Pepe at midfield AND still got spanked. That's the thing with Mourinho, he tries these bizarre things no other top coach tries anymore, like defenders in attack, attackers in defense AND still loses. If you are going to lose, at least play the standard 4 attackers, 2 midfielders and 4 defenders like Ancelotti did, and he actually won.
You had the most expensive squad in the world at that time with Ronaldo at the height of his powers. Jose wasn't a failure but wasn't a big success either. Pellegrini won 96 pts with a worse squad than Jose and made it really difficult for Barca too.Mourinho was influential because he was the one to break us out of our CL rut, made us competitive again against that barcelona, and steered us back near the top of the football pyramid. That's not to say that he did it all on his own -obviously Florentino's signings and the clubs money were even more influential- but he was the manager at the time. Ancelotti took over a team that was ready to win the CL, and with a massive chip on their shoulder. Would things have played the same or even better if we'd hired someone else instead of Mou? Possibly. But he's the one we hired, and he's the one who was sitting on the bench when we beat the best club side ever in the final of the Copa del Rey, and when we beat that team in their own stadium a year later to virtually clinch what ended up being a record breaking league title and end their hegemony. He deserves credit for that, and there's no doubt his tenure had a massive positive impact on the team and the club as a whole, which helped Ancelotti and Zidane go on to lead us into the golden age.
0 league titles and CL titles in 3 years.
Sorry, but if Mourinho was really winning the big trophies here, he would still have a job despite his godawful football.
Yes, as i said, Mourinho wasn't the biggest catalyst behind our resurrection. But he undeniably was a part of itYou had the most expensive squad in the world at that time with Ronaldo at the height of his powers. Jose wasn't a failure but wasn't a big success either. Pellegrini won 96 pts with a worse squad than Jose and made it really difficult for Barca too.
I think a Real fan is more suited to draw a conclusion there.How was he influential? Seriously I get mad at this..
Ancelotti basically did a 360 in the type of football they were running.
Seriously, Mourinho played Pepe at midfield AND still got spanked. That's the thing with Mourinho, he tries these bizarre things no other top coach tries anymore, like defenders in attack, attackers in defense AND still loses. If you are going to lose, at least play the standard 4 attackers, 2 midfielders and 4 defenders like Ancelotti did, and he actually won.
What was his squad there, a billion dollars and still playing counterattack football?I think a Real fan is more suited to draw a conclusion there.
Before Mourinho, no league title since 2008 and no QF in the CL since 2004(!). With Mourinho, one league title and three CL SFs - obviously it wasn’t as shit as some are portraying his Real stint on here. Getting to semi-finals on a regular basis does something for a club, especially when it has been a long long time ago since the last time, and should not be underestimated as a catalyst for further progression.
That doesn’t adress what I said at all.What was his squad there, a billion dollars and still playing counterattack football?
Agree with you but you I think you are wrong at one place. Ancelotti did a 180 not 360 :PHow was he influential? Seriously I get mad at this..
Ancelotti basically did a 360 in the type of football they were running.
Seriously, Mourinho played Pepe at midfield AND still got spanked. That's the thing with Mourinho, he tries these bizarre things no other top coach tries anymore, like defenders in attack, attackers in defense AND still loses. If you are going to lose, at least play the standard 4 attackers, 2 midfielders and 4 defenders like Ancelotti did, and he actually won.