Suedesi
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Talks a lot of sense generally on a broad interview with Richard Keys and Andy Gray, but talks absolute bollix on this one. Mind-boggling.
That upheaval isn't a reason why Moyes did badly. Moyes did badly because he is a bad manager, period. He deserved no more time.It's not mind-boggling. What he se said is sort of what we've all said in that Moyes brought in and all that United experience going out at once was bad and therefor he was never been able to cope in his first year. Then he's sacked and the same thing is repeated without much thought. Had Moyes been given another year it would have been better than him being sacked and LvG being brought in instead as Moyes would have had learned a ton what he did wrong and built on that.
You can disagree with that and be correct but that doesn't mean it's absolute bollocks. You can't really know that really, similarly to saying that brining in Mourinho would have been better which is a fair guess given the level of experience. What Schmeichel should have been asked by Keys was "wasn't it just wrong to hire Moyes in the first place given how inexperienced he was with running a club like Manchester United". I can imagine Schmeichel agreeing with that but that's me guessing like he did.
BingoThat upheaval isn't a reason why Moyes did badly. Moyes did badly because he is a bad manager, period. He deserved no more time.
LvG won a trophy and atleast gave us a few good moments in big games. He was a terrible manager but did much better than Moyes ever would have even if the latter had been given another year.
Strongly disagree with this sentiment. He might have been successful 5 years down the line but to have Man Utd that uncompetitive finishing 7th in his first year is unacceptable. Standards for a club like this always need to be maintained otherwise you're out. That should go for everyone from players to managers to receptionist. This is what differentiates big clubs/companies that expect success from small ones that only get success sometimesIt's not mind-boggling. What he se said is sort of what we've all said in that Moyes brought in and all that United experience going out at once was bad and therefor he was never been able to cope in his first year. Then he's sacked and the same thing is repeated without much thought. Had Moyes been given another year it would have been better than him being sacked and LvG being brought in instead as Moyes would have had learned a ton what he did wrong and built on that.
You can disagree with that and be correct but that doesn't mean it's absolute bollocks. You can't really know that really, similarly to saying that brining in Mourinho would have been better which is a fair guess given the level of experience. What Schmeichel should have been asked by Keys was "wasn't it just wrong to hire Moyes in the first place given how inexperienced he was with running a club like Manchester United". I can imagine Schmeichel agreeing with that but that's me guessing like he did.
I getting more and more convinced that most of our players were/are so oblivious of what real football matters are because of SAF's total control management and father figure attitude. They were living in a bubble created by the great man and his coaching staff.Why are some of our legends so clueless at times ? Whether it's him, Keane, Neville, at times they say some ridiculous stuff
This is why we have to be cautious about waning ex players in the club setup just because they are legends.Why are some of our legends so clueless at times ? Whether it's him, Keane, Neville, at times they say some ridiculous stuff
This a thousand times.That upheaval isn't a reason why Moyes did badly. Moyes did badly because he is a bad manager, period. He deserved no more time.
LvG won a trophy and atleast gave us a few good moments in big games. He was a terrible manager but did much better than Moyes ever would have even if the latter had been given another year.
True.This is why we have to be cautious about waning ex players in the club setup just because they are legends.
Exactly. Not forgetting that Moyes himself ordered much of the upheaval.That upheaval isn't a reason why Moyes did badly. Moyes did badly because he is a bad manager, period. He deserved no more time.
LvG won a trophy and atleast gave us a few good moments in big games. He was a terrible manager but did much better than Moyes ever would have even if the latter had been given another year.
I getting more and more convinced that most of our players were/are so oblivious of what real football matters are because of SAF's total control management and father figure attitude. They were living in a bubble created by the great man and his coaching staff.
Spot on for both counts. Ole is a breath of fresh air though.This is why we have to be cautious about waning ex players in the club setup just because they are legends.
Yup, "manager is always right", "Just needs time and he'll come good" etc etc. It's bizarre.I getting more and more convinced that most of our players were/are so oblivious of what real football matters are because of SAF's total control management and father figure attitude. They were living in a bubble created by the great man and his coaching staff.
And Schmeichal wanted to “put his hat in the ring” to be the Utd Director of Football! The man has no qualifications at all.This is why we have to be cautious about waning ex players in the club setup just because they are legends.
I went ahead and saw the whole video and schmeichel is talking a lot of non sense here.
Talks a lot of sense generally on a broad interview with Richard Keys and Andy Gray, but talks absolute bollix on this one. Mind-boggling.
Sir Alex took time to win the league. Was a hard worker and Scottish. Moyes was a hard worker and Scottish. So only thing missing was time and the titles would come. It sounds ridiculous but that's the basis of most people's opinion about Moyes succeeding at United.Moyes was out of his depth. How can someone find excuses for a guy who asked two all time greats like Rio and Vidic study Phil Jagielka's defending? I mean what kind of moron would do that?
So much rubbish Pogba talk as well. You'd think Pogba is a an evil mastermind call a team meeting in his lair to devise evil schemes to get rid of poor innocent Jose going by the way the pundits talk about him.Keys trying to push the agenda that Mourinho leaving was down to player power … feck right off!
I don't think our fans would stand for that.
Then to use that to gloss over what Ole has done since is a double insult!
Bingo on those bits. SAF tried to advise Moyes to retain his backroom staff - Moyes didn't.And this talk abiut replacing the backroom staff; it's quite a common practice for a new guy to get his staff in but it should have been the prerogative of United to ensure the transition was smoother rather than letting go of them all at once.
Despite how things turned out I do believe that Fergie trusted Moyes to come good in the long run.
So any hard working Scottish person could have achieved what SAF did … I smell a monkeys with typewriters WUMSir Alex took time to win the league. Was a hard worker and Scottish. Moyes was a hard worker and Scottish. So only thing missing was time and the titles would come. It sounds ridiculous but that's the basis of most people's opinion about Moyes succeeding at United.