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Excellent, fair and candid post.I think Mourinhos biggest influence on this team was that he bought well and raised the overall quality of the squad. I give him credit for that. He just couldn’t get them to play to their potential. Ole is doing this.
This is exactly my problem with many football fans when it comes to analysing. Excellent point there.We casually dropped points at the end IIRC, once second place was secured. And they played ugly football. But the table doesn't lie. That was a successful team that could have won the league in a good year.
I'm glad Jose is gone, but it's silly to pretend nothing he did was ever positive. He bought Paul Pogba ffs. If everything he did was so terrible then why is one of coaches (Carrick) still at the club? We need to get away from the extreme positions on everything. Otherwise at some point Ole will have a bad run and everyone will start demanding his head too.
Mourinho deserves no credit. His "work" led to embarrassing defeats, draws, and some of the most boring football I've ever witnessed.A lot!
Jose had the right tactics, trening and approach, but not the players trust and confidence for some reason.
Ole brought back the confidence, but is benefiting from Mourinhos work.
That’s why the real test is the start of next season when Ole has a preseason with his ideas. Then we’ll see how good Ole actually is and everything I just said is bullsh!t.
Pogba wanted to come back. There’s not a sane manager in the world who would’ve turned him down, and if they did Ed probably would’ve bought him anyway. He gets no credit for that.We casually dropped points at the end IIRC, once second place was secured. And they played ugly football. But the table doesn't lie. That was a successful team that could have won the league in a good year.
I'm glad Jose is gone, but it's silly to pretend nothing he did was ever positive. He bought Paul Pogba ffs. If everything he did was so terrible then why is one of coaches (Carrick) still at the club? We need to get away from the extreme positions on everything. Otherwise at some point Ole will have a bad run and everyone will start demanding his head too.
Although I could go with the flow and write zero nilch, bada, virus and so on I'd rather stick with this kind of posts. Only last year we were 2nd and had a great run vs top 6. In the big games this season tactics were not so much different but Ole did bring confidence and self belief back. And that was the key or one of the keys. His attitude is different and what we need right now.There are some tactically changes from Ole compared to José but the Away games to Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea, PSG & Home to Liverpool adopted a very Mourinho like sit back, counter & capitalise on mistakes.
Had the results been different across those games, the tactics & performances may have been looked upon differently.
We have sat deep in a lot of those games, it’s not the huge attacking football people seem to perceiving it as
Correct.I think Mourinhos biggest influence on this team was that he bought well and raised the overall quality of the squad. I give him credit for that. He just couldn’t get them to play to their potential. Ole is doing this.
Love the internet...Mourinho was shite. That’s not an extreme position, it’s the truth.
And embarrassing press conferences as well.Mourinho deserves no credit. His "work" led to embarrassing defeats, draws, and some of the most boring football I've ever witnessed.
Agreed. That is one thing I like about Jose. He makes quality signings most of the time. So even when he leaves the club in turmoil, it's easier for the club to turn it around because of the quality players they have available.I think Mourinhos biggest influence on this team was that he bought well and raised the overall quality of the squad. I give him credit for that. He just couldn’t get them to play to their potential. Ole is doing this.
Those players are trash. All of them playing at their level.None of it.
Solskjaer may have got some of Mourinho's signings playing better (which Mourinho couldnt manage) but lets not forget Mourinho also sold the likes of Blind, Januzaj, Miki and Depay who are doing well elsewhere. And given what we spent compared to what we received for these players, his signings arent that much of an improvement.
Pereira was in the academy since 2012. Brought in to the squad by LvG. Spent seasons on loan at Granada and Valencia. I don't think you can give Jose credit.The question turns a very broad topic into something too simple. A club & a squad is a continuous ongoing process, not a Black & White change from manager to manager.
This Utd Squad is made-up of Players from 4 different managers
SAF - De Gea, Smalling, Young, Jones, Valencia
Moyes - Mata
LVG - Romero, Shaw, Rojo, Martial, Rashford, Lingard, Herrera
Jose - Pogba (debatable), Matic, Baily, Lindelof, Lukaku, Sanchez, Dalot, Fred, Pierrera
Ole - Garner, Greenwood, Chong, Williams.
Every manager, every coach of every club that has worked with any of those players & helped them develop has played a part in where the players & therefore squad are at now.
Pereira was in the academy since 2012. Brought in to the squad by LvG. Spent seasons on loan at Granada and Valencia. I don't think you can give Jose credit.
Blind just played a huge part in helping his team to 1-4 demolition job of RM. joining us in the quarter final. if that's the level then yes it was wrong to let him go before some others in the squad. depay was also not utilized properly.Those players are trash. All of them playing at their level.
I mean he also recently played his part in a 6-2 loss to Feyenoord if we're going to randomly attribute team results & performances to individual players.Blind just played a huge part in helping his team to 1-4 demolition job of RM. joining us in the quarter final. if that's the level then yes it was wrong to let him go before some others in the squad. depay was also not utilized properly.
But if it isn’t?Blind just played a huge part in helping his team to 1-4 demolition job of RM. joining us in the quarter final. if that's the level then yes it was wrong to let him go before some others in the squad. depay was also not utilized properly.