I doubt there are any grounds for that. A competition clause wouldn't apply to a foreign club because they aren't even competing with us. There was an off chance that we may play in the CL, but since Madrid are out that's not possible. If Mourinho does get the job, they probably already wanted him but waited for an opportune time to get him, dropping out the CL would be a good time because it gives him a free pass this season while also avoiding any murkiness with playing against United.
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What do you mean? IIRC, these clause often means for joining club in same league, to prevent the manager try to sabotage a team on purpose to join a rival. Even if we talk about same competition, the Madrid CL campaign ended.
And there may be difference between mutual consent termination of contract and sacking.
Going to so intriguing to see how he does, his reputation is in tatters and he's going into the club where players arguably have the most power.
Would absolutely love it if he brought Fellaini back from China
Would absolutely love it if he brought Fellaini back from China
He will fail again. No longer the manager he use to be.
Marca and AS both saying that Zidane is the favorite. Can't imagine him going back now.
If United have paid out the remainder of his Contract, then by all rights they should have retention over his services until such time as the Contract was due to end or by end of the current league season (whichever is agreed between the parties).
An astute lawyer would draft a clause in his release Contract that would prevent Mourinho from joining any other football club in the world on a managerial or other basis until such time as the non-compete clause is finished. In otherwords, Mourinho should be effectively on gardening leave until the end of the season unless another club is willing to payout the agreed settlement between Manchester United and Mourinho for his services.
As if Mourinho doesn't have his agent with team of lawyers to negotiable the contract. They could have refused that during negotiation. Lawyers can only console a client as much, the final decision makers are still the one with final say, and we know where this is heading to with our contract renewal of our players...
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Two options for Real: sack Solari now and replace him with Mourinho or stick with him and wait for Zidane.
Or something along those lines anyway.
No Poch?
Perhaps this was what Mike Dean's up to...
Perhaps this was what Mike Dean's up to...
Will go up in flames if it happens. You don't go for Mourinho after what happened at Chelsea and United unless you're bonkers.
No different to a player, there would be nothing stopping Manchester United from not releasing Mourinho from his role at United and telling him to sit on the sidelines for two years, further destroying his reputation.
As a commercial lawyer, I know how releases work and they are far from one sided. Especially in these circumstances where there is a release for a huge sum of money. feck knows they could be still settling the matter behind closed doors.
I am sticking my head to say I know any better behind closed door. Just saying that for football club, image's worth a lot. Going to deface someone via a contract is not the way to further your reputation. Doing more harm than good with future recruitment. So if the legal advisor is any good, they would realize.
Perhaps where the manager has the support and backing of certain players, but where it is clear that the players would rather see the back of him, I dont see how they could give two fecks about the reputation of United's lawyers in dealing with the scenario. Similarly, most players looking at United couldnt give two fecks about how our legal team deals with unwanted Managers. We're far bigger than Mourinho and his "legacy" will ever be.
Anyone can become unwanted is the point. It's the image of the club here we're talking about.
The whole thing is all but based on the contract signed, which is negotiable, and by the look of our recent contract renewal, we're not doing it right, so there is every chance we fecked up. We did renew Mourinho contract, didn't we?
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Sounded and looked salty about United but praised OGS.
Can’t believe he’s getting the RM job though, would probably be his last shot at a big club.
Can’t believe he’s getting the RM job though, would probably be his last shot at a big club.
Oh how tables have turned. When Mourinho's signing underperformed and flopped under his reign, some people were questioning whether or not those were his signings at all, or were they enforced upon him by big bad Ed.
Now the same people are saying that Mourinho should get some credit for those same players because they're performing under Ole...
Now the same people are saying that Mourinho should get some credit for those same players because they're performing under Ole...
I thought we'd be his last big club, but if Real are still interested, I've no doubt in my mind he'll get another big job afterwards. Fair play to the bloke, not sure how he does it at this point.
He added Carvalho, Drogba and Paulo Ferreira to Ranieri’s team who were runners up to the Invincibles and reached the CL semis. Hardly built it.
Zizou shouldn’t go back to Madrid, especially this soon. Why risk tarnishing his legacy when he has no unfinished business there?
Cech came too though after Mourinho was signed (no idea if they discussed it). Then one year later it was Essien. Not sure about Robben was he done before or not.
Anyway, point taken. Though the quality of his team compared to Ranieri's were different. Ranieri barely managed second, Mourinho win back to back titles with 10+ points.
Can't see why Perez / Madrid would want Mourinho full time, only maybe till the end of the season if they think Solari won't make top 4... Probably the worst manager they could possibly choose long term given his recent awful record and prior falling out with half the dressing room at Real. Rumour leaked by Mendes or maybe even Perez? to put the wind up Ramos.
Even if they offered to Mourinho till season end I think he would say no, job is poisoned for this season, out of all cups, no win situation for him.
Even if they offered to Mourinho till season end I think he would say no, job is poisoned for this season, out of all cups, no win situation for him.
Čech agreed to join Chelsea in January 2004, way before Mourinho was on Chelsea’s radar. The Robben transfer was agreed in March of the same year.
Mourinho improved that side and turned them into champions but it’s a big stretch to say he built it.
Mourinho, a manager of his stature -- would never accept an interim job.
He's going to get the full-time job and considering his decline, he's just damn lucky Real are in a rut and Perez can't see beyond his first stint at Madrid.
The Madrid he's inheriting isn't too dissimilar from the United squad he got. They are depleted and jaded. The difference is that La Liga is easier than the Premier League with it's Top 6 hegemony and managers like Klopp, Pep and Conte (previously).
He will likely sign some good players, get Top 4, or even win the league if Barca don't improve much (they haven't set the league on fire this season despite being champions elect).
The Juve job will probably be available this summer. Zidane should take that.
In an hour and a half interview with a Romanian TV channel, Giovanni Becali(one of Jose's best friends and a decent football agent) said that Jose didn't want Pogba and that he thought that United paid too much money for him. He also mentioned that Pogs was one of those players wanted by the owners not by the manager.
Giovanni was with Jose in London 8 days ago and Jose told him he received a very big offer from China. Jose was also telling Giovanni that, if he goes to China he can bring to China all of his players and both will make a lot of money. (But Jose thinks he's too young and wants "5 more years here"; here meaning Europe by the sound of it). So yes, Jose might a be a little money whore.
There was also talk about Mourinho's fight with Cristiano. Giovanni told the presenter that, when he asks Jose about CR, Jose doesn't want to discuss anything, he just flinches and rolls his head around. He stated that Jose and CR are definitely not on speaking terms.
In regards to Real Madrid, Jose could very well return there in the near future, the only issue is his relation with the president, described by Giovanni as "he hasn't got any form of relationship with Florentino".
Giovanni was with Jose in London 8 days ago and Jose told him he received a very big offer from China. Jose was also telling Giovanni that, if he goes to China he can bring to China all of his players and both will make a lot of money. (But Jose thinks he's too young and wants "5 more years here"; here meaning Europe by the sound of it). So yes, Jose might a be a little money whore.
There was also talk about Mourinho's fight with Cristiano. Giovanni told the presenter that, when he asks Jose about CR, Jose doesn't want to discuss anything, he just flinches and rolls his head around. He stated that Jose and CR are definitely not on speaking terms.
In regards to Real Madrid, Jose could very well return there in the near future, the only issue is his relation with the president, described by Giovanni as "he hasn't got any form of relationship with Florentino".
Yeah, man's just a bright ray of sunshine spreading joy everywhere he goes. Doesn't everyone know.
The quote literally beggars belief. I don't know a single Madrid fan that wants him either.Yeah, man's just a bright ray of sunshine spreading joy everywhere he goes. Doesn't everyone know.
Madrid job seemingly gone.
Woukd have been bonkers to give it to him.
Wonder what's next? Inter?
Woukd have been bonkers to give it to him.
Wonder what's next? Inter?
Doubtful. I think the footballing world as a whole is going a lot less for past glory nowadays than 5-10 years ago. People want players/managers who are up and coming, not on the decline (almost irrespective of how high the starting point was). Löw axing a 29 year old Müller is a good example.
5-10 years ago, a 38 year old Makélélé was starting for PSG. Dalglish got the Liverpool job. Roy Hodgson got the England job. All based on past glory.
All of those things would be unthinkable today.
West Brom might be interested.
I think he'll move to Inter were he will end up ruining his legacy there as he did with Chelsea.
Unless he goes back to Inter I can't see another "big" club being interested in him.
Do inter have money to spend? I don't think he'll go there unless they give him a significant budget to break Juve's hegemony.
To answer the OP, I see more bitterness, more misery & more delusion in his future.
Does anyone really care where he ends up? Jose is finished. He's not willing to change....Maybe he should coach Portugal or go back to Inter like some are saying.
PSG?
He needs somewhere that has money to spend but has been success starved for a while and will put up with his shit. An Everton or similar.
Unless Inter go for him, I wouldn't be surprised to see him take a couple years off. By that stage his issues at the last few clubs will have somewhat faded from memory, and sooner or later one of the top clubs will be in a desperate position and he'll get the call.
He definitely should take a couple of years off IMO, try to recharge his batteries. Or perhaps manage an international team so that he can do it relatively part-time.
He definitely should take a couple of years off IMO, try to recharge his batteries. Or perhaps manage an international team so that he can do it relatively part-time.