Zidane watch

[SportingCP96]

Always felt he was overrated as a coach BUT with that being said if they give him blank checks and say he can sign who ever he wants there is no way you can feck that up.

Also it is not just about the players they are buying but also who they are selling. Isco, Bale, Benzema, Marcelo(?) just to name a few... lots of money to be made their.

 

[tentan]

Potential team for next season

------------------De Gea
Carvajal-----Varane----Ramos-------Marcelo
--------Eriksen---Casemiro--Kroos
-------Hazard-------Benzema------Neymar

 

[Peyroteo]

Potential team for next season

------------------De Gea
Carvajal-----Varane----Ramos-------Marcelo
--------Eriksen---Casemiro--Kroos
-------Hazard-------Benzema------Neymar

Modric is their best midfielder by a mile, he'll be a starter next season.

 

[Mr Pigeon]

Potential team for next season

------------------De Gea
Carvajal-----Varane----Ramos-------Marcelo
--------Eriksen---Casemiro--Kroos
-------Hazard-------Benzema------Neymar

A big feck on your face, and all of your family's faces too.

 

[Rito]

It will be absolutely hilarious to see the reactions of a few here if DDG and pogba are the first ones to leave

 

[MrEleson]

Potential team for next season

------------------De Gea
Carvajal-----Varane----Ramos-------Marcelo
--------Eriksen---Casemiro--Kroos
-------Hazard-------Benzema------Neymar

Kroos is far more likely to be displaced than Modric.

 

[Peyroteo]

It will be absolutely hilarious to see the reactions of a few here if DDG and pogba are the first ones to leave

There's 0 chance Madrid will ever want De Gea after his NT performances.

They have Courtois and Navas now anyway too so that's definitely dead.

 

[Cloud7]

It will be absolutely hilarious to see the reactions of a few here if DDG and pogba are the first ones to leave

If Pogba leaves then so be it, the club will move on. At least in this instance he’ll be leaving of his own accord. I can live with that.

What I cannot, and will not ever be able to stomach, is a quality player being forced out of the club by an underperforming manager. I will never be okay with that.

With that being said, I don’t think the club will allow ourselves to be bullied by Madrid, or at least I hope not.

 

[ErranMorad]

Wow! Didn't see that coming. Big blow to Poch. No wonder he has been acting up. Linked to two of the biggest jobs in world football and both gone within a matter of months.

From our squad, Pogba is the only one I would be worried about leaving. However, I won't be too bothered if he is replaced adequately.

 

[Freak]

Shame. I wanted Jose to go there and feck things up. Hopefully Jose now goes to PSG and fecks that club up.

 

[Darlington Padgett]

It will be absolutely hilarious to see the reactions of a few here if DDG and pogba are the first ones to leave

Pogba has 2 years +1 right? We hold all the cards. DDG is the one I'm worried about but if he does leave we can replace him with Oblak.

 

[Freak]

Wow! Didn't see that coming. Big blow to Poch. No wonder he has been acting up. Linked to two of the biggest jobs in world football and both gone within a matter of months.

From our squad, Pogba is the only one I would be worried about leaving. However, I won't be too bothered if he is replaced adequately.

Poch had his chance to go to Madrid. He should have taken it. I don’t think there’s any vacancies open at the top clubs now. Maybe Chelsea or PSG if they sack their managers.

 

[devilish]

Inter Is still a huge club. second only to Milan as Champions League Cups won.

Inter aren't even the biggest team in their own city and they traditionally loom behind Juve and Milan. Also note that Serie a football has changed alot in the past few years with most clubs struggling to compete with their counterparts abroad and with napoli usurping the two milanese clubs to become the only threat to Juve dominance. Inter might have the history of a top club but in terms of finances & prestige its not even near to Real or us

 

[shamans]

Poch had his chance to go to Madrid. He should have taken it. I don’t think there’s any vacancies open at the top clubs now. Maybe Chelsea or PSG if they sack their managers.

Poch is good at building teams but when you build teams, you sometimes don't win stuff for a while. Madrid would have have needlessly trashed him after a bad run.

I still think the Poch and United combo would have been very good but seems like we've found an even better fit in Ole. Although, I still think with Ole time will tell if he can do it in the long run. That's not to say we shouldn't give Ole the job.

 

[Cockney Phil]

Well that puts a spoke to those who wanted him in OT, which was a silly idea.

 

[Needham]

It will be interesting to see the reaction of nobody to this.

 

[InfiniteBoredom]

Inter aren't even the biggest team in their own city and they traditionally loom behind Juve and Milan. Also note that Serie a football has changed alot in the past few years with most clubs struggling to compete with their counterparts abroad and with napoli usurping the two milanese clubs to become the only threat to Juve dominance. Inter might have the history of a top club but in terms of finances & prestige its not even near to Real or us

Mourinho won’t go to Inter.

A year out of the game and one of Chelsea/PSG/Real will become available.

 

[devilish]

Mourinho won’t go to Inter.

A year out of the game and one of Chelsea/PSG/Real will become available.

No one knows for sure. However, the more he stays out of football the more difficult it will be for him to return.

 

[InfiniteBoredom]

No one knows for sure. However, the more he stays out of football the more difficult it will be for him to return.

I don’t really buy that.

He’s done enough to always be mentioned whenever a managerial merry-go-round happens. Clubs have short memories and desperation/lack of options do funny things to the mind.

 

[devilish]

I don’t really buy that.

He’s done enough to always be mentioned whenever a managerial merry-go-round happens. Clubs have short memories and desperation/lack of options do funny things to the mind.

Look mate, I've been following mercenaries like him since my childhood. Before Mou came along there were the likes of Capello and Sven Goran Eriksson ie managers who has no long terms plans, who come at a club on ridiculous salaries, they spend as much money as they can, they win as many trophies as they can and they move with no care in the world of what they might leave behind. Club owners know whom these people are and they sign them for that exact reason.

The trouble with these managers is that they need a constant pile of trophies to keep them going. Once trophies start drying up then there's a problem as it doesn't justify why they were signed in the first place. Mou lost 3 dressing rooms. He hasn't won a league title for the past 4 years and that was followed by 2 dressing rooms lost, failure in qualifying the CL and 2 sackings. He was replaced by some rookie and United results had improved significantly since we sacked Mou. So ask yourself, if Mou can't guarantee top trophies anymore, then why on earth would any handle him a huge salary in the first place? He can't man manage, he has no clue on how to build a squad for the future and when shit hits fan he'll blame it on others even the CEO. That's very bad news for prospective employers.

Each Ole's win is converted into yet another nail into Mou's career's coffin. The guy need to move somewhere quickly and remove this huge albatross off his neck.

 

[InfiniteBoredom]

@devilish Sven and Capello had a fifth of Mourinho’s career, at best, and the way their career ended bore that out. A failed stint with England and no one touched them anymore.

The guy is the 2nd most decorated manager active in the game. It’ll take another job or two before he’s relegated to the top 4 chasers or worst of the world.

Make no mistake, it’ll end in tears for whoever hires him next, all I’m saying is his past achievements afford him far more leeways than other guns for hire.

 

[devilish]

@devilish Sven and Capello had a fifth of Mourinho’s career, at best, and the way their career ended bore that out. A failed stint with England and no one touched them anymore.

The guy is the 2nd most decorated manager active in the game. It’ll take another job or two before he’s relegated to the top 4 chasers or worst of the world.

Make no mistake, it’ll end in tears for whoever hires him next, all I’m saying is his past achievements afford him far more leeways than other guns for hire.

No one gives a feck about ancient history which explains why there's a bigger chance for Klopp getting great jobs as opposed to Mou or Capello. What club owners tend to care about is the entire package

a- the reputation
b- the trophies he won during the last few years
c- the style of football the manager bring (depends on the club)
d- the manager's ability to work with the resources he's got
e- the manager's man management skills
f- the way he works with his superiors

Mou's got a decent reputation (although it had been tarnished by what had happened at Real, Chelsea and us). As a top tier manager his trophy record in recent years has been disappointing. His football style is old fashioned and not particularly appealing. He relies heavily on clubs constantly spending huge amount of money, his man management is appalling and he won't shy to shift the blame on his employers which of course isn't what employers tend to like. To make matters worse, he's his own worse enemy. For example him shifting the blame on Woodward for not immediately buying him replacements for his own signings as Shitty do with Pep would terrify the crap of any owner who can't rely on Dubai/Saudi petrodollars. No one likes to fork 50m+ per year into his club only to have the fans turning against them for not signing the 3rd successive CB Mou wanted and the club couldn't provide, especially since most fans aren't the typical top reds as we are.

 

[Santi_Mesut_Alexis_87]

He is taking a big gambe because most of his wins were down to Ronaldo. He needs Peres to invest big in the summer.

 

[Kapardin]

Inter aren't even the biggest team in their own city and they traditionally loom behind Juve and Milan. Also note that Serie a football has changed alot in the past few years with most clubs struggling to compete with their counterparts abroad and with napoli usurping the two milanese clubs to become the only threat to Juve dominance. Inter might have the history of a top club but in terms of finances & prestige its not even near to Real or us

It isn't a top club in terms of finances and attractiveness as you say at the moment, but the name still carries weight and Mourinho would be able to save face if he gets the job and makes them a CL regular again with consistent league performances. PSG aren't likely to be sacking Tuchel yet, so it really is Inter or bust for him this summer.

 

[The holy trinity 68]

No one gives a feck about ancient history which explains why there's a bigger chance for Klopp getting great jobs as opposed to Mou or Capello. What club owners tend to care about is the entire package

a- the reputation
b- the trophies he won during the last few years
As a top tier manager his trophy record in recent years has been disappointing.

So Klopp who has won nothing in the last 5 years vs Mourinho who has won the PL, Europa League and 2 League Cups.

Is Klopp a top tier manager and Mourinho is not? One wins trophies the other does not.

 

[devilish]

So Klopp who has won nothing in the last 5 years vs Mourinho who has won the PL, Europa League and 2 League Cups.

Is Klopp a top tier manager and Mourinho is not? One wins trophies the other does not.

As said its the entire package. Klopp struggles in honours but he compensate more then adequately in the other areas (C-F).

 

[SirAF]

As said its the entire package. Klopp struggles in honours but he compensate more then adequately in the other areas (C-F).

The other areas are irrelevant without honours though.

 

[devilish]

It isn't a top club in terms of finances and attractiveness as you say at the moment, but the name still carries weight and Mourinho would be able to save face if he gets the job and makes them a CL regular again with consistent league performances. PSG aren't likely to be sacking Tuchel yet, so it really is Inter or bust for him this summer.

Would he? Mou lacks in various areas of football like man management, ability to be a team player, ability to provide entertaining football and ability to build successful sides. His main asset is in fact trophies, something he brings in by spending ridiculous amounts of money. If you strip that huge investment from him then he won't win top trophies and without those medals he hardly brings anything else to the table.

 

[Kapardin]

As said its the entire package. Klopp struggles in honours but he compensate more then adequately in the other areas (C-F).

True, at this point, any club would look at who has a better chance of staying at the top and helping the club to win trophies. And that's definitely Klopp.

Mourinho's last major trophy was in 2014-15. His two trophies he won with us won't really influence decisions of top clubs like Real. In contrast, Klopp's rebuild at Liverpool will be more attractive even if trophies elude him (heck, Real were considering even Pochettino based on this according to reports), as they would be willing to give him a chance.

 

[giorno]

I'm not crying. I swear.

 

[devilish]

The other areas are irrelevant without honours though.

If that was the case then the likes of Ole, Poch, Tuchel, Sarri and Klopp would be managing Bolton, West Ham, Sampdoria, Sassuolo and Southampton instead of United, Spurs, PSG, Chelsea and Liverpool. Meanwhile guys like Zidane, Pep and Conte would have never been given a shot at top clubs which basically kick started their own careers. Football has moved a long way to the 'classical I win trophies so I can do what I want' type of management. A manager need to provide a football style that works, ridiculous transfer fees means that he needs to be careful with the resources provided to him and he need to be great in man management. Very few clubs can afford to change their squad every 2-3 years just because the manager can't handle the players.

 

[devilish]

True, at this point, any club would look at who has a better chance of staying at the top and helping the club to win trophies. And that's definitely Klopp.

Mourinho's last major trophy was in 2014-15. His two trophies he won with us won't really influence decisions of top clubs like Real. In contrast, Klopp's rebuild at Liverpool will be more attractive even if trophies elude him (heck, Real were considering even Pochettino based on this according to reports), as they would be willing to give him a chance.

exactly.

Also note that clubs who traditionally used to pay huge amount of money on salaries/fees aren't doing so anymore. Real for example has lost out on Pogba and DDG and seem to be aiming at young talent instead (Rodrygo, Vincinius Junior, Odegaard). We had taken a more conservative approach this year same as Bayern Munich. The last thing they would want is a manager who expects them to spend 100m+ per year for the same position time and time again only to be accused of being skint if they fail to do so.

There's also a matter of rivalry. For example I can't see Mou joining Juventus or Barcelona any time soon. So basically there are just 2 clubs who can afford Mou's philosophy ie Shitty and PSG. The former has a manager whose 10 times better then him. The latter can afford someone with a better recent record then some Real's, United's and Chelsea's sloppy seconds.

 

[Robertd0803]

Should never have gone back. No way is he going to top his acheivements last time and runs a massive risk of tarnishing his legacy.

Was never 100% on the idea of Zidane being United boss, just seemed like an odd fit to me.

 

[Casanova85]

Pogba might leave? Where does that come from?

Nonsense.

 

[tenpoless]

"Kante or Pogba" yeah, right They aren't even the same type of fecking players! what a load of bollocks.

 

[dmode]

Stupid move from him imho.

 

[Casanova85]

Hope they buy Coutinho

 

[NinjaFletch]

True, at this point, any club would look at who has a better chance of staying at the top and helping the club to win trophies. And that's definitely Klopp.

Mourinho's last major trophy was in 2014-15. His two trophies he won with us won't really influence decisions of top clubs like Real. In contrast, Klopp's rebuild at Liverpool will be more attractive even if trophies elude him (heck, Real were considering even Pochettino based on this according to reports), as they would be willing to give him a chance.

As opposed to Klopp who last won a major trophy as recently as 2012...

 

[Kapardin]

As opposed to Klopp who last won a major trophy as recently as 2012...

Think you missed my point. Also, consider the jobs each had.

 

[carvajal]

Hope they buy Coutinho